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All Blacks v Argentina II

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    @NTA said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    There were still tickets on Friday?

    I wasn't expecting the game to sellout. I'm not going! $115 to sit in my usual seats, which aren't in the main grandstand. $180 for the most expensive tickets.

    Unfortunately after having no rain all week there is rain forecast during the test.

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    @NTA said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

    There were still tickets on Friday?

    I wasn't expecting the game to sellout. I'm not going! $115 to sit in my usual seats, which aren't in the main grandstand. $180 for the most expensive tickets.

    Unfortunately after having no rain all week there is rain forecast during the test.

    Platinum tickets for Sydney tomorrow night $250

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      Paps to come on at 50 and go to 8: Ardie/Scooter/Paps.

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      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

        @reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

        @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

        Foster seems to blame the players for their poor play at every point. "They don't do the awesome things I tell them to do" seems to be his perennial cry.

        Taylor's lineout throwing in Pumas 1, which probably cost us the game, had nothing to do with Foster and was all down to Taylor and the forwards. I hope he gave them a good kick up the arse for that shit.

        It's only afterwards that he has to find someone to blame.

        Do you want him to join the commentary team and call out player errors in real-time?

        Except for, you know, repeatedly selecting him while underperforming. And subbing someone playing superbly and throwing accurately for him.

        Not sure what that's got to do with forwards not being able to execute the really basic stuff like line-out throws to win/save a game. Poor coaching at Super level probably.

        Need to see that sort of stuff gone - starting in Pumas II

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        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

        Need to see that sort of stuff gone - starting in Pumas Ireland II

        Agree

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          Not a sell out suprised when ChCh sold out in that shit staduim.

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          • BonesB Bones

            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

            Need to see that sort of stuff gone - starting in Pumas Ireland II

            Agree

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            @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

            Need to see that sort of stuff gone - starting in Pumas Ireland II

            Agree

            I think you mean Ireland III

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            • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

              @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

              Need to see that sort of stuff gone - starting in Pumas Ireland II

              Agree

              I think you mean Ireland III

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              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

              @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

              Need to see that sort of stuff gone - starting in Pumas Ireland II

              Agree

              I think you mean Ireland III

              I definitely do not. Feel free to check my posts after the first test 😉

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              • BonesB Bones

                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                Need to see that sort of stuff gone - starting in Pumas Ireland II

                Agree

                I think you mean Ireland III

                I definitely do not. Feel free to check my posts after the first test 😉

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                @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                Need to see that sort of stuff gone - starting in Pumas Ireland II

                Agree

                I think you mean Ireland III

                I definitely do not. Feel free to check my posts after the first test 😉

                Ireland III was way worse IMHO.

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                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                  @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  Need to see that sort of stuff gone - starting in Pumas Ireland II

                  Agree

                  I think you mean Ireland III

                  I definitely do not. Feel free to check my posts after the first test 😉

                  Ireland III was way worse IMHO.

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                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  Need to see that sort of stuff gone - starting in Pumas Ireland II

                  Agree

                  I think you mean Ireland III

                  I definitely do not. Feel free to check my posts after the first test 😉

                  Ireland III was way worse IMHO.

                  Now you're getting it...

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                  • NTAN NTA

                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                    @NTA said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                    There were still tickets on Friday?

                    I wasn't expecting the game to sellout. I'm not going! $115 to sit in my usual seats, which aren't in the main grandstand. $180 for the most expensive tickets.

                    Unfortunately after having no rain all week there is rain forecast during the test.

                    Platinum tickets for Sydney tomorrow night $250

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                    Nepia
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                    @NTA said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                    @NTA said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                    There were still tickets on Friday?

                    I wasn't expecting the game to sellout. I'm not going! $115 to sit in my usual seats, which aren't in the main grandstand. $180 for the most expensive tickets.

                    Unfortunately after having no rain all week there is rain forecast during the test.

                    Platinum tickets for Sydney tomorrow night $250

                    Firstly, why are you surprised there's tickets available for the AB game? Have you not watched them this year?

                    Secondly, $250 is chump change for the Eastern Suburbs and North Shore toffs who run your game. Plus they've all got lots of money to spend on rugby after not attending any match out West for the period that the SFS was closed down.

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                    • P pakman

                      Paps to come on at 50 and go to 8: Ardie/Scooter/Paps.

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                      @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                      Ardie/Scooter/Paps.

                      That's fucking awful - bring a 7 on at 8, move a slow footed lock to 6, and move the 8 to 7.

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                      • NepiaN Nepia

                        @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                        Ardie/Scooter/Paps.

                        That's fucking awful - bring a 7 on at 8, move a slow footed lock to 6, and move the 8 to 7.

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                        @Nepia said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                        @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                        Ardie/Scooter/Paps.

                        That's fucking awful - bring a 7 on at 8, move a slow footed lock to 6, and move the 8 to 7.

                        Mex is adamant Paps is not a 7.

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                          I love game day.

                          heading south late morning in a convoy, beers and bbq at a mates, then off to the ground. weather not cooperating, but that's life.

                          still one of the best stadiums to watch rugby at, can't wait. Against all the odds, and despite Foster and NZR's best efforts I'm still backing black

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            Need to see that sort of stuff gone - starting in Pumas Ireland II

                            Agree

                            I think you mean Ireland III

                            I definitely do not. Feel free to check my posts after the first test 😉

                            Ireland III was way worse IMHO.

                            Now you're getting it...

                            Victor MeldrewV Away
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                            Victor Meldrew
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                            @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            @Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                            Need to see that sort of stuff gone - starting in Pumas Ireland II

                            Agree

                            I think you mean Ireland III

                            I definitely do not. Feel free to check my posts after the first test 😉

                            Ireland III was way worse IMHO.

                            Now you're getting it...

                            Yeah, I see what you did, but for me the rot started at the 2019 RWC semi.

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                            • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                              @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                              Foster seems to blame the players for their poor play at every point. "They don't do the awesome things I tell them to do" seems to be his perennial cry.

                              Taylor's lineout throwing in Pumas 1, which probably cost us the game, had nothing to do with Foster and was all down to Taylor and the forwards. I hope he gave them a good kick up the arse for that shit.

                              It's only afterwards that he has to find someone to blame.

                              Do you want him to join the commentary team and call out player errors in real-time?

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                              #233

                              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                              Taylor's lineout throwing in Pumas 1, which probably cost us the game, had nothing to do with Foster and was all down to Taylor and the forwards. I hope he gave them a good kick up the arse for that shit.

                              Sure Fozzie and the coaches are not able to control what player do on the park, but they are the ones setting the tone at trainings, meetings, driving and building the culture of success.

                              From the outside, Fozzie seems to think what he is doing is fine, it was his assistants that were the problem, and last week, Taylor.

                              These players don't become shit overnight, we have seen patches in several tests in the past 12 months that proves just this, so why are we only getting 10 or 20 mins a test of quality test rugby?

                              As above, if the players aren't doing what the coach wants, why weren't more dropped after the Irish test series?

                              We are rebuilding aren't we, but rebuilding while playing the same tune with the same instruments...

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                Taylor's lineout throwing in Pumas 1, which probably cost us the game, had nothing to do with Foster and was all down to Taylor and the forwards. I hope he gave them a good kick up the arse for that shit.

                                Sure Fozzie and the coaches are not able to control what player do on the park, but they are the ones setting the tone at trainings, meetings, driving and building the culture of success.

                                From the outside, Fozzie seems to think what he is doing is fine, it was his assistants that were the problem, and last week, Taylor.

                                These players don't become shit overnight, we have seen patches in several tests in the past 12 months that proves just this, so why are we only getting 10 or 20 mins a test of quality test rugby?

                                As above, if the players aren't doing what the coach wants, why weren't more dropped after the Irish test series?

                                We are rebuilding aren't we, but rebuilding while playing the same tune with the same instruments...

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                                Victor Meldrew
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                                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                These players don't become shit overnight, we have seen patches in several tests in the past 12 months that proves just this, so why are we only getting 10 or 20 mins a test of quality test rugby?

                                I'm genuinely convinced it's a collective head/mental thing. And while that's down to Foster to fix, the players need to fix that as well - but I'm pretty convinced Foster's not the person to lead that fix.

                                As above, if the players aren't doing what the coach wants, why weren't more dropped after the Irish test series?

                                Very true, but he's got himself into a position where that option was pretty limited - some thru injuries, some thru excessive caution and always being on the back-foot. Big gripe for me is how a relative newbie has one bad game and then goes out of favour (it's almost as if he reads The Fern...) Needs to be a wee bit bolder as he was with the front row.

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                                • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                                  @Crucial said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                  Another post missing the point.
                                  Not doing it is the very stuff the coaches were annoyed about. Instinct to go wide when it isn’t on.

                                  On the suggestion though Clarke did try coming infield for a burst a couple of times IIRC. Jordan, however was conspicuously absent and JB stopped appearing where he was needed

                                  Foster seems to blame the players for their poor play at every point. "They don't do the awesome things I tell them to do" seems to be his perennial cry.

                                  I call BS on that. I say they are doing what he tells them to do. Otherwise he would drop them, like any coach with players who don't stick to the game plan.

                                  It's only afterwards that he has to find someone to blame.

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                                  @Chester-Draws said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                  @Crucial said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                  Another post missing the point.
                                  Not doing it is the very stuff the coaches were annoyed about. Instinct to go wide when it isn’t on.

                                  On the suggestion though Clarke did try coming infield for a burst a couple of times IIRC. Jordan, however was conspicuously absent and JB stopped appearing where he was needed

                                  Foster seems to blame the players for their poor play at every point. "They don't do the awesome things I tell them to do" seems to be his perennial cry.

                                  I call BS on that. I say they are doing what he tells them to do. Otherwise he would drop them, like any coach with players who don't stick to the game plan.

                                  It's only afterwards that he has to find someone to blame.

                                  Are you sure? If anything Foster has been too supportive and shielded the players (publicly at least).
                                  Maybe in the other thread you could support this “perennial cry”
                                  If they are playing to the plan at the start of the game it is quite obvious when they go off plan under pressure and to an instinctive mode. The big problem is that this generation and lower level rugby in NZ hones instinct that has been shut down at the test level.
                                  Square peg, round hole.

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                                    #236

                                    So what’s the story if the ABs sort their shit out and trounce Argentina???

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                                    • HoorooH Hooroo

                                      So what’s the story if the ABs sort their shit out and trounce Argentina???

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                                      @Hooroo said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                      So what’s the story if the ABs sort their shot out and trounce Argentina???

                                      We get to wait to see if they shit the bed again against Australia.

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                                      • HoorooH Hooroo

                                        So what’s the story if the ABs sort their shit out and trounce Argentina???

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                                        @Hooroo said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                        So what’s the story if the ABs sort their shot out and trounce Argentina???

                                        Every dog has their day

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                                        • HoorooH Hooroo

                                          So what’s the story if the ABs sort their shit out and trounce Argentina???

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                                          @Hooroo said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                          So what’s the story if the ABs sort their shit out and trounce Argentina???

                                          Better execution last week and we score 30+

                                          We dominated. Just couldn't convert into points

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