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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    "Invitational Team" is usually code for weak. The Sharks U21s are playing in Bloemfontein so none of those younger players would likely be involved.

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    @Bovidae Yep, it might be another monster score in a game that tells us nothing about players. I hope not.

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      TheMojoman
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      Entertaining game but as most of the posters have noted, the opposition was so weak that it looked more like a Captain's run.

      Good to see some of the skills on display though, every player from Prop to Fullback looking to or offloading. Need to see the skills tested under pressure though.

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        I think this is the team to play the Sharks despite the article title.

        https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-zealand-under-19-named-to-play-stormers-under-19-side/

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          I think this is the team to play the Sharks despite the article title.

          https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-zealand-under-19-named-to-play-stormers-under-19-side/

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          @Bovidae Yeah, was just going to say that he list must be correct because it's different from that used for the Stormers game. They obviously had a team announcement for the first game, but forgot to publish it, and now they've forgotten to change the team's name and location. Amateurs.

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            Mefi Tupou again not in the team list. Maybe injured?

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              We never saw the final touring squad.

              There are plenty of utility players in the squad. Riley Williams, for example, is a halfback who is quick enough to play on the wing, as he did in the 2nd half against WP.

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                Good to see that the Sharks provided a much tougher test than WP. Hammett said these first two games were about giving everyone an opportunity, as the reserves from game 1 started and mass changes to the forward pack were made at HT. NZ dominated the scrums but didn't get any reward from the ref. The lineout functioned well in difficult windy conditions.

                At least the NZ defence was tested although they won't be happy with the missed tackles leading to the Sharks tries.

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  Good to see that the Sharks provided a much tougher test than WP. Hammett said these first two games were about giving everyone an opportunity, as the reserves from game 1 started and mass changes to the forward pack were made at HT. NZ dominated the scrums but didn't get any reward from the ref. The lineout functioned well in difficult windy conditions.

                  At least the NZ defence was tested although they won't be happy with the missed tackles leading to the Sharks tries.

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                  @Bovidae

                  How do you think we will go against the u19 boks?

                  My expectation is that we will be a little underpowered when we match up against them. Which has been the case in age grade match ups for a while.

                  Surprised that have put such big scores on these sides but of course we never know the strength or preparedness of opposition.

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                    @Bovidae

                    How do you think we will go against the u19 boks?

                    My expectation is that we will be a little underpowered when we match up against them. Which has been the case in age grade match ups for a while.

                    Surprised that have put such big scores on these sides but of course we never know the strength or preparedness of opposition.

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                    @DaGrubster The WP and Sharks teams were scratch teams with 3-4 days preparation, so you can't read too much into the scores.

                    Obviously a SA U19 team would be much stronger, particularly in the forwards, so that would be a completely different test. Hammett's comments indicate NZ wanted to play the SA U19s but that didn't happen. This tour is just to provide competitive games and a tour experience for the young players who missed out due to covid. The performance of the NZ U20s at the WC next year will tell us how beneficial this tour was.

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      @DaGrubster The WP and Sharks teams were scratch teams with 3-4 days preparation, so you can't read too much into the scores.

                      Obviously a SA U19 team would be much stronger, particularly in the forwards, so that would be a completely different test. Hammett's comments indicate NZ wanted to play the SA U19s but that didn't happen. This tour is just to provide competitive games and a tour experience for the young players who missed out due to covid. The performance of the NZ U20s at the WC next year will tell us how beneficial this tour was.

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                      @Bovidae

                      Ah ok, didn’t realise there wasn’t a match with SA U19 during the tour.

                      Smart move to send U19 side in preparation for next years U20 tournament (which I assume starts up again in 2023?)

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                        Highlights -

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                          Our u20s was unbeaten in the 6 Nations Summer Series. SA Schools (u18) played against England and France u19s.

                          It's our schools end exams currently and the reason for these scrambling teams.

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                          • OomPBO OomPB

                            Our u20s was unbeaten in the 6 Nations Summer Series. SA Schools (u18) played against England and France u19s.

                            It's our schools end exams currently and the reason for these scrambling teams.

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                            @OomPB Any updates?

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                              Still a day to go for the game.

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                                @OomPB Any updates?

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                                @SBW1 tomorrow's match is against the Leopards u19s. Understand that they are longer together and a good tight 5 probably most playing for Uni of North West (Pukke) young guns in the Varsity Cup.
                                One interesting fact is that Ardi Viljoen and Leopards nr 8 Eben Versters dads were Western Province scrumhalves during the last All Blacks tour in 1996. Pretty sure they,ll have a cold one together.

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                                  https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-zealand-under-19-team-named-take-on-the-leopards/

                                  Following their second win on the tour over the Sharks Under 19, New Zealand Under 19 Head Coach Mark Hammett has named his side to face Leopards Under 19 on Thursday 29 September at 3.00pm (3.00am, Friday 30 September, NZT).

                                  1: Gabe Robinson (Waikato)
                                  2: Dylan Irvine ( Ta$man)
                                  3: Siale Lauaki (Wellington)
                                  4: Hunter Morrison (Manawatū)
                                  5: Ale Aho (Auckland)
                                  6: Rory Woods (Northland)
                                  7: Sam Hainsworth-Fa’aofo (Auckland) ©
                                  8: Semisi Ta’eiloa (Otago)
                                  9: Riley Williams (Auckland)
                                  10: Ajay Faleafaga (Otago)
                                  11: Epeli Waqaicece (Manawatū)
                                  12: Leo Gordon (Auckland)
                                  13: Essendon Tuitupou (Auckland)
                                  14: Cody Nordstrom (Waikato)
                                  15: Finn Hurley (Otago)

                                  16: Jack Taylor (Southland)
                                  17: Toby Taylor (Bay of Plenty)
                                  18: Keran van Staden (Counties Manukau)
                                  19: Fiti Sa (Canterbury)
                                  20: Andrew Smith (Waikato)
                                  21: Jordi Viljoen (Manawatū)
                                  22: Byron Smith (Auckland)
                                  23: Isaac Hutchinson (Canterbury)
                                  24: Taine Kolose (Bay of Plenty)
                                  25: Will Stodart (Otago)
                                  26: Cooper Flanders (Hawke’s Bay)

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                                    Mielie Boers look much better then the other teams.

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                                      Officiating very one-sided in this game. Only one team gets penalised (NZ obviously). NZ now playing with 2 players in the bin.

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                                        Commentary is worse, btw.

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          Commentary is worse, btw.

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                                          @Stargazer English is a foreign language in Potch.

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