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Magpies 2023

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    Stargazer
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    #267

    Tiaki Fabish, who didn't get a single minute of game time in black and white this year, has gone back to Spain. Maybe you'll remember that he played there last season as well, for relegated club Basque club Gernika Rugby Taldea. This year he has signed with a significantly better club: Valladolid (VRAC), who finished the 2022-23 season as Spanish champions. He played his first game (the club's second game of the season) on 8 October.

    https://vracrugby.com/el-vrac-se-refuerza-con-tiaki-fabish/

    Edited to add that this media release is from 8 August 2023, so I assume they let him go early (before the end of the NPC) because they didn't intend to give him any game time anyway (we had an unusually long list of locks this year & he seemed to be at the bottom of the pecking order).

    Edit 2: Just like last year, he will not only play in the Spanish División de Honor, but also in the National U23 competition (later in the season).

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      Tiaki Fabish, who didn't get a single minute of game time in black and white this year, has gone back to Spain. Maybe you'll remember that he played there last season as well, for relegated club Basque club Gernika Rugby Taldea. This year he has signed with a significantly better club: Valladolid (VRAC), who finished the 2022-23 season as Spanish champions. He played his first game (the club's second game of the season) on 8 October.

      https://vracrugby.com/el-vrac-se-refuerza-con-tiaki-fabish/

      Edited to add that this media release is from 8 August 2023, so I assume they let him go early (before the end of the NPC) because they didn't intend to give him any game time anyway (we had an unusually long list of locks this year & he seemed to be at the bottom of the pecking order).

      Edit 2: Just like last year, he will not only play in the Spanish División de Honor, but also in the National U23 competition (later in the season).

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      @Stargazer said in Magpies 2023:

      Tiaki Fabish, who didn't get a single minute of game time in black and white this year, has gone back to Spain. Maybe you'll remember that he played there last season as well, for relegated club Basque club Gernika Rugby Taldea. This year he has signed with a significantly better club: Valladolid (VRAC), who finished the 2022-23 season as Spanish champions. He played his first game (the club's second game of the season) on 8 October.

      https://vracrugby.com/el-vrac-se-refuerza-con-tiaki-fabish/

      Edited to add that this media release is from 8 August 2023, so I assume they let him go early (before the end of the NPC) because they didn't intend to give him any game time anyway (we had an unusually long list of locks this year & he seemed to be at the bottom of the pecking order).

      Edit 2: Just like last year, he will not only play in the Spanish División de Honor, but also in the National U23 competition (later in the season).

      Good club from all accounts. One of my best mates went over there for probably ten years. Ended up play g for the sevens/15s national team. Sounds similar to Japanese club rugby where the variation of skill levels across a team can be frustrating for foreign players.

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        A disappointing result yesterday but all in all a much better season than I expected. Credit to the coaching staff and players.

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          #270

          From the HBRU socials:

          The M.agpies had their prize giving on Saturday night. Here are the winners for 2023!

          Best Back - Nick Grigg

          Best Forward - Tyrone Thompson

          Rookie of the Year - Bo Abra

          MagpiEs Man - Chase Tiatia

          Player's Player - Devan Flanders

          Player of the Year - Tyrone Thompson

          I love watching Thompson play, but I disagree he was our best forward. IMO that was Flanders, but I can live with this choice. Not so the choice of back of the year. Although Grigg had a better than expected year, McClutchie would have been my pick.

          Bo Abra got most game time of him, Morrison, Allen, Tuifua, Wye, Balekana, the Japanese hooker, Tu'ungafasi and Salmon, so I guess that explains the selection, but he immediately got dumped when 'Apikotoa came back.

          If there was an award for most improved player, I'd nominate Frank Lochore.

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            In my mind, it would be a tie for most improved. Frank Lochore had a high workrate and threw himself around really well, but I was majorly impressed by Joel Hintz's scrummaging improvements from previous years. The front row of him, PRS and Tyrone was unmoveable

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              In my mind, it would be a tie for most improved. Frank Lochore had a high workrate and threw himself around really well, but I was majorly impressed by Joel Hintz's scrummaging improvements from previous years. The front row of him, PRS and Tyrone was unmoveable

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              @Stockcar86 The degree of improvement is hard to measure, obviously, when players are at different stages of their rugby career. Hintz has been around for a while, while Lochore is a rookie. Hintz has definitely improved and has been very good, this season. Lochore, however, is basically coming from nowhere and has now become a solid, reliable sub. Hence my choice, but Hintz would probably may second pick.

              I'll write my season review this weekend. It would be nice if all the childish changes to our team's and province's name were finished by then, but I'm not holding my breath.

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                #273

                So, this is the situation after the SRP squad namings today.

                This was our list of 2023 SR players:

                Player Super Rugby team
                Bo Abra Force
                Joe Apikotoa Moana Pasifika
                Jacob Devery Hurricanes
                Folau Fakatava Highlanders
                Devan Flanders Hurricanes
                Neria Fomai Moana Pasifika
                Harry Godfrey Hurricanes
                Stacey Ili Rebels
                Jonah Lowe Highlanders
                Lincoln McClutchie Moana Pasifika
                Marino Mikaele-Tu'u Highlanders
                Pouri Rakete-Stones Hurricanes
                Brodie Retallick Chiefs
                Ollie Sapsford Brumbies
                Tyrone Thompson Chiefs
                Chase Tiatia Force
                Anzelo Tuitavuki Moana Pasifika
                Isi Tuʻungafasi Moana Pasifika
                Lolagi Visinia Moana Pasifika
                Isaia Walker-Leawere Hurricanes
                Brad Weber Chiefs
                Sam Wye Moana Pasifika

                This is what is left of that list, our 2024 SRP players:

                Player Super Rugby team
                Jacob Devery Hurricanes
                Folau Fakatava Highlanders
                Devan Flanders Hurricanes
                Neria Fomai Moana Pasifika
                Harry Godfrey Hurricanes
                Jonah Lowe Highlanders
                Pouri Rakete-Stones Hurricanes
                Ollie Sapsford Brumbies
                Tyrone Thompson Chiefs
                Chase Tiatia Force
                Anzelo Tuitavuki Moana Pasifika
                Isaia Walker-Leawere Hurricanes

                Obviously, we unofficially have (presumably) three more in Solomone Funaki, Ere Enari and Danny Toala. So that's 15 players, much shorter than 2023 (25). Pretty weird situation after our highest ranking ever in the NPC.

                While MMT, Retallick and Weber were of course not in the picture, I'm absolutely gutted that there was no room for Lincoln McClutchie in any of the squads. I also expected Joe 'Apikotoa and Stacey Ili to be named.

                If they're not staying in NZ, I hope they all go to the MLR, because if they sign in Japan or Europe, we'll lose them for the NPC as well.

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                  So, this is the situation after the SRP squad namings today.

                  This was our list of 2023 SR players:

                  Player Super Rugby team
                  Bo Abra Force
                  Joe Apikotoa Moana Pasifika
                  Jacob Devery Hurricanes
                  Folau Fakatava Highlanders
                  Devan Flanders Hurricanes
                  Neria Fomai Moana Pasifika
                  Harry Godfrey Hurricanes
                  Stacey Ili Rebels
                  Jonah Lowe Highlanders
                  Lincoln McClutchie Moana Pasifika
                  Marino Mikaele-Tu'u Highlanders
                  Pouri Rakete-Stones Hurricanes
                  Brodie Retallick Chiefs
                  Ollie Sapsford Brumbies
                  Tyrone Thompson Chiefs
                  Chase Tiatia Force
                  Anzelo Tuitavuki Moana Pasifika
                  Isi Tuʻungafasi Moana Pasifika
                  Lolagi Visinia Moana Pasifika
                  Isaia Walker-Leawere Hurricanes
                  Brad Weber Chiefs
                  Sam Wye Moana Pasifika

                  This is what is left of that list, our 2024 SRP players:

                  Player Super Rugby team
                  Jacob Devery Hurricanes
                  Folau Fakatava Highlanders
                  Devan Flanders Hurricanes
                  Neria Fomai Moana Pasifika
                  Harry Godfrey Hurricanes
                  Jonah Lowe Highlanders
                  Pouri Rakete-Stones Hurricanes
                  Ollie Sapsford Brumbies
                  Tyrone Thompson Chiefs
                  Chase Tiatia Force
                  Anzelo Tuitavuki Moana Pasifika
                  Isaia Walker-Leawere Hurricanes

                  Obviously, we unofficially have (presumably) three more in Solomone Funaki, Ere Enari and Danny Toala. So that's 15 players, much shorter than 2023 (25). Pretty weird situation after our highest ranking ever in the NPC.

                  While MMT, Retallick and Weber were of course not in the picture, I'm absolutely gutted that there was no room for Lincoln McClutchie in any of the squads. I also expected Joe 'Apikotoa and Stacey Ili to be named.

                  If they're not staying in NZ, I hope they all go to the MLR, because if they sign in Japan or Europe, we'll lose them for the NPC as well.

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                  Billsy111
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                  @Stargazer I also think Joel Hintz and Geoff Cridge earnt a contract. Josh Kaifa must have gone close as well.

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                    @Stargazer I also think Joel Hintz and Geoff Cridge earnt a contract. Josh Kaifa must have gone close as well.

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                    @Billsy111 My comment was only about the players who had SR contracts in 2023, but I agree that more players deserve to play SR.

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                      The reactions under this post reflect what many have been saying after the SR squads were announced, including here. I still can't believe no NZ franchise offered him a spot.

                      https://www.facebook.com/hbmagpies/posts/pfbid024jioBX9SaUHYyjT2gok5VhJBQLmcvsRv2SRq5Wxkeee5gKDSZLNSMB8SLW7qug4vl

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