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All Blacks vs Wales

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  • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

    @voodoo Jordie

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    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wales:

    @voodoo Jordie

    Oh bro 😔

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    • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

      I'm no greenhouse expert but you'd think some f***** could work out how to make the stadium not slippery

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      @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wales:

      I'm no greenhouse expert but you'd think some f***** could work out how to make the stadium not slippery

      I thought we were watching I'm a Celebrity

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      • TimT Tim

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        But conditions and outcomes changed the thinking. Despite the roof being closed in Cardiff, the heavy rain and relatively warm temperature created a degree of humidity inside the stadium and conditions were heavier and wetter than they may have appeared.slippery,” says Aaron Smith. “It was dewy and it was warm. Everyone was dripping wet after about five minutes. There were a few dropped balls early on so everyone had to adjust.

        “We shortened up our passes and our forwards tightened up. At times we were really dominant, getting round the corner to win the collision area, deliver good cleanouts and we were breaking into the 22 a lot.”

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        @Tim said in All Blacks vs Wales:

        @cgrant

        But conditions and outcomes changed the thinking. Despite the roof being closed in Cardiff, the heavy rain and relatively warm temperature created a degree of humidity inside the stadium and conditions were heavier and wetter than they may have appeared.slippery,” says Aaron Smith. “It was dewy and it was warm. Everyone was dripping wet after about five minutes. There were a few dropped balls early on so everyone had to adjust.

        “We shortened up our passes and our forwards tightened up. At times we were really dominant, getting round the corner to win the collision area, deliver good cleanouts and we were breaking into the 22 a lot.”

        The biggest change since Ellis Park for me has been player attitude on the field. The wild-eyed look when mistakes are made has vanished and they actually look to be enjoying themselves out there. There's more calmness when they leak a try and the discussion on what went wrong and how to fix it seems way less panicky - almost relaxed but serious.

        The comparison between 2nd half of the French Test last year and this game was stark. Last year they took it up the guts to wrestle the game back but made mistake after mistake which handed momentum back to France - as they did against England at RWC2019. This time the discipline and control with the same tactics was on another level.

        Still too many easy tries given away and we don't know how good we actually are until we play England, but the on-field team work and management is way, way better

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        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

          @Tim said in All Blacks vs Wales:

          @cgrant

          But conditions and outcomes changed the thinking. Despite the roof being closed in Cardiff, the heavy rain and relatively warm temperature created a degree of humidity inside the stadium and conditions were heavier and wetter than they may have appeared.slippery,” says Aaron Smith. “It was dewy and it was warm. Everyone was dripping wet after about five minutes. There were a few dropped balls early on so everyone had to adjust.

          “We shortened up our passes and our forwards tightened up. At times we were really dominant, getting round the corner to win the collision area, deliver good cleanouts and we were breaking into the 22 a lot.”

          The biggest change since Ellis Park for me has been player attitude on the field. The wild-eyed look when mistakes are made has vanished and they actually look to be enjoying themselves out there. There's more calmness when they leak a try and the discussion on what went wrong and how to fix it seems way less panicky - almost relaxed but serious.

          The comparison between 2nd half of the French Test last year and this game was stark. Last year they took it up the guts to wrestle the game back but made mistake after mistake which handed momentum back to France - as they did against England at RWC2019. This time the discipline and control with the same tactics was on another level.

          Still too many easy tries given away and we don't know how good we actually are until we play England, but the on-field team work and management is way, way better

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          @Victor-Meldrew I've been glad that Cane hasn't looked clinically depressed since the loss to Argentina.

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          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

            @Tim said in All Blacks vs Wales:

            @cgrant

            But conditions and outcomes changed the thinking. Despite the roof being closed in Cardiff, the heavy rain and relatively warm temperature created a degree of humidity inside the stadium and conditions were heavier and wetter than they may have appeared.slippery,” says Aaron Smith. “It was dewy and it was warm. Everyone was dripping wet after about five minutes. There were a few dropped balls early on so everyone had to adjust.

            “We shortened up our passes and our forwards tightened up. At times we were really dominant, getting round the corner to win the collision area, deliver good cleanouts and we were breaking into the 22 a lot.”

            The biggest change since Ellis Park for me has been player attitude on the field. The wild-eyed look when mistakes are made has vanished and they actually look to be enjoying themselves out there. There's more calmness when they leak a try and the discussion on what went wrong and how to fix it seems way less panicky - almost relaxed but serious.

            The comparison between 2nd half of the French Test last year and this game was stark. Last year they took it up the guts to wrestle the game back but made mistake after mistake which handed momentum back to France - as they did against England at RWC2019. This time the discipline and control with the same tactics was on another level.

            Still too many easy tries given away and we don't know how good we actually are until we play England, but the on-field team work and management is way, way better

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            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wales:

            The comparison between 2nd half of the French Test last year and this game was stark. Last year they took it up the guts to wrestle the game back but made mistake after mistake which handed momentum back to France

            That French team is vastly better than this Welsh team, who finished 5th with one win. Can't compare.

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            • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

              @Tim said in All Blacks vs Wales:

              @cgrant

              But conditions and outcomes changed the thinking. Despite the roof being closed in Cardiff, the heavy rain and relatively warm temperature created a degree of humidity inside the stadium and conditions were heavier and wetter than they may have appeared.slippery,” says Aaron Smith. “It was dewy and it was warm. Everyone was dripping wet after about five minutes. There were a few dropped balls early on so everyone had to adjust.

              “We shortened up our passes and our forwards tightened up. At times we were really dominant, getting round the corner to win the collision area, deliver good cleanouts and we were breaking into the 22 a lot.”

              The biggest change since Ellis Park for me has been player attitude on the field. The wild-eyed look when mistakes are made has vanished and they actually look to be enjoying themselves out there. There's more calmness when they leak a try and the discussion on what went wrong and how to fix it seems way less panicky - almost relaxed but serious.

              The comparison between 2nd half of the French Test last year and this game was stark. Last year they took it up the guts to wrestle the game back but made mistake after mistake which handed momentum back to France - as they did against England at RWC2019. This time the discipline and control with the same tactics was on another level.

              Still too many easy tries given away and we don't know how good we actually are until we play England, but the on-field team work and management is way, way better

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              @Victor-Meldrew I do wonder if the biggest change is actually just quality of opposition (sorry Mike)

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                At 17:37 Frizell was driven backwards, and Nisbit commented "Good strong charge from Shannon Frizell." He needs to be put down. Get McTavish in.

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                • TimT Tim

                  At 17:37 Frizell was driven backwards, and Nisbit commented "Good strong charge from Shannon Frizell." He needs to be put down. Get McTavish in.

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                  @Tim said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                  At 17:37 Frizell was driven backwards, and Nisbit commented "Good strong charge from Shannon Frizell." He needs to be put down. Get McTavish in.

                  I noticed Frizell get knocked back more than once.

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                  • voodooV voodoo

                    @Victor-Meldrew I do wonder if the biggest change is actually just quality of opposition (sorry Mike)

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                    @voodoo
                    I think there are genuine improvements.
                    Jason Ryan
                    A front row
                    Paps
                    JB 12
                    SW captain

                    The technical improvement has been significant in the forwards
                    Where's Razor

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                      BTW, a reliable source has said that McLeod also had poor performance reviews last year. For some reason he has escaped scrutiny. I think it's vital that he is replaced in the off-season.

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                      • canefanC canefan

                        @Tim said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                        At 17:37 Frizell was driven backwards, and Nisbit commented "Good strong charge from Shannon Frizell." He needs to be put down. Get McTavish in.

                        I noticed Frizell get knocked back more than once.

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                        @canefan He had some good carries too. Quite a few mistakes, some decent chop tackles in the first half, but no ability to slow the ball or dominate with his tackles. Clean out game below his earlier performances.

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                        • TimT Tim

                          BTW, a reliable source has said that McLeod also had poor performance reviews last year. For some reason he has escaped scrutiny. I think it's vital that he is replaced in the off-season.

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                          @Tim said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                          BTW, a reliable source has said that McLeod also had poor performance reviews last year. For some reason he has escaped scrutiny. I think it's vital that he is replaced in the off-season.

                          If the NZRFU were in a mood to replace Fozzie's assistants, how the hell did McLeod survive the chop?

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                            Taylor playing much better, but throwing not quite back to his best. Great to have him back in form as the bench option though.

                            Who will be the 3rd hooker in the squad? Coles is available for about two tests per year now.

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                              Can Retallick back up his Eden Park Bledisloe performance? Or is Whitelock/Barrett the combination for the big games?

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                                Can Retallick back up his Eden Park Bledisloe performance? Or is Whitelock/Barrett the combination for the big games?

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                                @Tim said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                Can Retallick back up his Eden Park Bledisloe performance? Or is Whitelock/Barrett the combination for the big games?

                                Pretty tempting not to mess with a group that is performing well

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                                • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                                  @voodoo
                                  I think there are genuine improvements.
                                  Jason Ryan
                                  A front row
                                  Paps
                                  JB 12
                                  SW captain

                                  The technical improvement has been significant in the forwards
                                  Where's Razor

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                                  @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                  @voodoo
                                  I think there are genuine improvements.
                                  Jason Ryan
                                  A front row
                                  Paps
                                  JB 12
                                  SW captain

                                  The technical improvement has been significant in the forwards
                                  Where's Razor

                                  Well, I agree with this post, though I'm not really sure what all that has to do with Jordies best attributes being his vision and distribution.

                                  Let's move on I guess.

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                                  • voodooV voodoo

                                    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                    @voodoo
                                    I think there are genuine improvements.
                                    Jason Ryan
                                    A front row
                                    Paps
                                    JB 12
                                    SW captain

                                    The technical improvement has been significant in the forwards
                                    Where's Razor

                                    Well, I agree with this post, though I'm not really sure what all that has to do with Jordies best attributes being his vision and distribution.

                                    Let's move on I guess.

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                                    @voodoo said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                                    @voodoo
                                    I think there are genuine improvements.
                                    Jason Ryan
                                    A front row
                                    Paps
                                    JB 12
                                    SW captain

                                    The technical improvement has been significant in the forwards
                                    Where's Razor

                                    Well, I agree with this post, though I'm not really sure what all that has to do with Jordies best attributes being his vision and distribution.

                                    Let's move on I guess.

                                    If Tompkins had been playing in black it would have been close to 100 pts

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                                      https://twitter.com/MattHardyJourno/status/1588999373014589440?s=20&t=Ch9QBNJ2j7NHY71Ai87E7Q

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                                        Not sure what all the criticism of Jordie Barrett is for? All the backs ran the ball straight, so it was obviously a team tactic. He was good at that.

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                                          Restarts, exits, and defensive structure are big work-ons for this team. They're also the things that win tight matches.

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