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All Blacks vs Wales

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    Looking from another Angle, Dagg did play with Kanio in the AB's just maybe he is better judge than given credit for.
    Critics have not had that advantage.
    And could Dagg be repeating what he hears out of the AB camp as he is great mates with a lot of the AB's in the camp as he hangs out with a lot of them.Coming from another angle than just calling Dagg an idiot maybe he know more than some people.

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    • ChrisC Chris

      Looking from another Angle, Dagg did play with Kanio in the AB's just maybe he is better judge than given credit for.
      Critics have not had that advantage.
      And could Dagg be repeating what he hears out of the AB camp as he is great mates with a lot of the AB's in the camp as he hangs out with a lot of them.Coming from another angle than just calling Dagg an idiot maybe he know more than some people.

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      @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wales:

      Looking from another Angle, Dagg did play with Kanio in the AB's just maybe he is better judge than given credit for.
      Critics have not had that advantage.
      And could Dagg be repeating what he hears out of the AB camp as he is great mates with a lot of the AB's in the camp as he hangs out with a lot of them.Coming from another angle than just calling Dagg an idiot maybe he know more than some people.

      a post absolutely dripping in irony

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        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wales:

        Looking from another Angle, Dagg did play with Kanio in the AB's just maybe he is better judge than given credit for.
        Critics have not had that advantage.
        And could Dagg be repeating what he hears out of the AB camp as he is great mates with a lot of the AB's in the camp as he hangs out with a lot of them.Coming from another angle than just calling Dagg an idiot maybe he know more than some people.

        a post absolutely dripping in irony

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        @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Wales:

        @Chris said in All Blacks vs Wales:

        Looking from another Angle, Dagg did play with Kanio in the AB's just maybe he is better judge than given credit for.
        Critics have not had that advantage.
        And could Dagg be repeating what he hears out of the AB camp as he is great mates with a lot of the AB's in the camp as he hangs out with a lot of them.Coming from another angle than just calling Dagg an idiot maybe he know more than some people.

        a post absolutely dripping in irony

        Glad you liked it.

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          Frizzell is solid in all areas without being spectacular. I don't have a problem with him being there, and yes, I do think that Ioane is a far better player man for man, but Frizzell does do a decent enough job as a workhorse and fits the mould better with the way they want their 6 to play in the tight.

          It will be interesting to see what happens when Retallick comes back as I feel that Barrett will move to 6 and I would rather have Ioane on the bench as Frizzell either starts or doesn't play at all imo.

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            Frizzell is solid in all areas without being spectacular. I don't have a problem with him being there, and yes, I do think that Ioane is a far better player man for man, but Frizzell does do a decent enough job as a workhorse and fits the mould better with the way they want their 6 to play in the tight.

            It will be interesting to see what happens when Retallick comes back as I feel that Barrett will move to 6 and I would rather have Ioane on the bench as Frizzell either starts or doesn't play at all imo.

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            @African-Monkey I reckon Frizell, Papalii, Havili, Clarke, Reece are all players that either start or not in the 23.

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              @African-Monkey I reckon Frizell, Papalii, Havili, Clarke, Reece are all players that either start or not in the 23.

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              @ACT-Crusader I agree on all except Havili. Havili at least offers utility value (obviously), so depending on what you wanted to do with the backline or if an injury strikes, then Havili becomes a handy option imo if they chucked him there.

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              • M Mattasaurus

                Apparently we have a new JC....???

                https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/11/08/dagg-on-the-all-blacks-modern-day-jerome-kaino-and-loose-trio-dominance/

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                @Mattasaurus said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                Apparently we have a new JC....???

                https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/11/08/dagg-on-the-all-blacks-modern-day-jerome-kaino-and-loose-trio-dominance/

                I don't follow this love of Frizzel, he had one above-average game that I recall.

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                • canefanC canefan

                  Was I the only one who noticed that Frizell more often than not gets knocked back when he carries the ball up? Or did I miss a bunch of dominant carries?

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                  @canefan said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                  Was I the only one who noticed that Frizell more often than not gets knocked back when he carries the ball up? Or did I miss a bunch of dominant carries?

                  I'm happy to agree that SF is in plenty of dominant tackles. Just not as the tackler.

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                  • voodooV voodoo

                    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                    He's still dead wrong on all counts

                    Well, he's not really is he?

                    Let's break it down:

                    • We’ve been looking for [someone to] come in and adds that real oomph at the six position,’ - not sure he adds oomph, but he is certainly a tight power 6 rather than an athletic one

                    • “He does all the hard work" - true

                    • "he carries extremely well" - well he carries straight and hard at least, and he does so repeatedly

                    • "he defends really well" - I agree with this

                    • "he’s another lineout option" - I agree with this too

                    He's hardly the 2nd coming of JK, but he has been solid and is a good foil for Savea who plays a looser 8 role than others might

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                    @voodoo said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                    He's still dead wrong on all counts

                    Well, he's not really is he?

                    Let's break it down:

                    • We’ve been looking for [someone to] come in and adds that real oomph at the six position,’ - not sure he adds oomph, but he is certainly a tight power 6 rather than an athletic one

                    > - “He does all the hard work" - true

                    • "he carries extremely well" - well he carries straight and hard at least, and he does so repeatedly
                    • "he defends really well" - I agree with this
                    • "he’s another lineout option" - I agree with this too

                    He's hardly the 2nd coming of JK, but he has been solid and is a good foil for Savea who plays a looser 8 role than others might

                    In that photo it was DP doing all the hard work.
                    We want effective hardworkers.

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                    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                      @voodoo said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                      @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                      He's still dead wrong on all counts

                      Well, he's not really is he?

                      Let's break it down:

                      • We’ve been looking for [someone to] come in and adds that real oomph at the six position,’ - not sure he adds oomph, but he is certainly a tight power 6 rather than an athletic one

                      > - “He does all the hard work" - true

                      • "he carries extremely well" - well he carries straight and hard at least, and he does so repeatedly
                      • "he defends really well" - I agree with this
                      • "he’s another lineout option" - I agree with this too

                      He's hardly the 2nd coming of JK, but he has been solid and is a good foil for Savea who plays a looser 8 role than others might

                      In that photo it was DP doing all the hard work.
                      We want effective hardworkers.

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                      ok I went back through super rugby stats and Shannon has done well (Akira matched him only in one category but I'm not sure how much he played in 2020-21).

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                        I'm also reading online in other places that Frizell is putting fear into the opposition. Has he? I remember seeing forwards clearly avoiding running into Collins and Kaino, but Frizell? Must have missed it.

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                        • NepiaN Nepia

                          Dagg showing that maybe the standard of education at fancy pants private schools isn't that great. 😉

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                          @Nepia said in All Blacks vs Wales:

                          Dagg showing that maybe the standard of education at fancy pants private schools isn't that great. 😉

                          Well this is triggering cc: @Magpie_in_aus

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