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Northland 2023

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    Chiefy07
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    Marty Veale stepping down this close to the season isn't very handy. I wonder who else the NRU might have up their sleeve at this late stage? Dave Rennie turn down the Blues to sign for Northland...

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      Marty Veale stepping down this close to the season isn't very handy. I wonder who else the NRU might have up their sleeve at this late stage? Dave Rennie turn down the Blues to sign for Northland...

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      taniwharugby
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      @Chiefy07 yeah timing is not ideal, I'd be surprised if anyone of high calibre will be available this short of notice??

      Maybe Bryce Woodward haha, I believe he might have a lesser workload form his usual day in recent months...but seriously, no idea, guess there were other applicants last year, but again, likely all placed somewhere now too

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        Steven Harris
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        Definetly came as a shock but after chatting to a few people in the know its 100% a family decision
        to move back to the US
        Marty was absolutely gutted as he can see some unbelievable potential in the union moving forward
        He had implimented a game plan that was going suprise many in the NPC and the players had bought into it big time
        The players have taken the news well and as long the same pieces can be put in place by the new coaching group its bussiness as usual

        One real plus,the union is close to nailing one of the best young coaches in the world as an attack coach ,cant devulge his name as i have sworn to secracy on this one but it would have fitted in nicely Marty Veales attacking philisophy

        The reality is there are better coaches from other parts world who look at the game through a lense

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          Definetly came as a shock but after chatting to a few people in the know its 100% a family decision
          to move back to the US
          Marty was absolutely gutted as he can see some unbelievable potential in the union moving forward
          He had implimented a game plan that was going suprise many in the NPC and the players had bought into it big time
          The players have taken the news well and as long the same pieces can be put in place by the new coaching group its bussiness as usual

          One real plus,the union is close to nailing one of the best young coaches in the world as an attack coach ,cant devulge his name as i have sworn to secracy on this one but it would have fitted in nicely Marty Veales attacking philisophy

          The reality is there are better coaches from other parts world who look at the game through a lense

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          taniwharugby
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          @Steven-Harris i guess alot depends on who the next head coach ends up being, because they need to share the same philosophies of how they want things to go.

          What we saw of Veale last year was very much strong defence, sadly I dont think Konia's attacking game was able to take advantage of the chances our defence created.

          I have been impressed with the quality of young players I have seen in recent weeks of club rugby, just need the right guidance at club and above to nurture and retain them in the game.

          We are fortunate we still have the likes of Ross Wright, Rene, Justin Davies, Matich, Olsen, Hawkins et al still running around club rugby, not only providing mentors to the next generation, but no doubt driving them on the park whether on same team or as opposition.

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            Do we have a 3rd first five? What are the options?

            Waiting for the Coach to be named…..

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              Do we have a 3rd first five? What are the options?

              Waiting for the Coach to be named…..

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              Steven Harris
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              @kev there’s a couple options on the table , Tama Winiana who can play halfback or first five or Kobie Scutt both were part of the Taniwha futures team earlier in the season or a bolter could be Jade Stewart who has linked up with Mid Northern and has pushed Scutt to fullback
              Stewart was picked up by Canterbury but has returned North

              Regarding the coach , I know the union is very close to naming a successor to Marty Veale
              I do know the union have almost signed off on an attack coach who is considered to be one of the brightest young coaches in the world.
              Having seen the team he coaches in the NH , I am super excited

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                Not quite the news Northland were looking for ,Ireland U20 attack coach Mark Sexton ,brother of Johnny has had to decline a role with the Taniwha 2023
                Sexton was released by the Irish Rugby Union to join Northland ,but Connach refused to release the outstanding young coach and re negotiated for a sum even Northland could’nt match
                A lot of work had gone in behind the scene to get what would have been an outstanding pick up
                Sexton is rated as one of the best up and coming young coaches in the Northern Hemphishere
                Will be watching the Irish U20s with great interest in this years U20 world cup
                The Northland head coach will be named early next week

                On some good news

                Allen Craig has been bought into the Blues squad to replace Sam Darry
                Heremaia Murray has joined the Highlanders
                Pisi Leilua is with the Samoan 7s squad in England
                Rory Woods into the NZ U20 squad
                Tom Robinson has been released by the NZ Rugby

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                  Not quite the news Northland were looking for ,Ireland U20 attack coach Mark Sexton ,brother of Johnny has had to decline a role with the Taniwha 2023
                  Sexton was released by the Irish Rugby Union to join Northland ,but Connach refused to release the outstanding young coach and re negotiated for a sum even Northland could’nt match
                  A lot of work had gone in behind the scene to get what would have been an outstanding pick up
                  Sexton is rated as one of the best up and coming young coaches in the Northern Hemphishere
                  Will be watching the Irish U20s with great interest in this years U20 world cup
                  The Northland head coach will be named early next week

                  On some good news

                  Allen Craig has been bought into the Blues squad to replace Sam Darry
                  Heremaia Murray has joined the Highlanders
                  Pisi Leilua is with the Samoan 7s squad in England
                  Rory Woods into the NZ U20 squad
                  Tom Robinson has been released by the NZ Rugby

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                  taniwharugby
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                  @Steven-Harris said in Northland 2023:

                  Tom Robinson has been released by the NZ Rugby

                  stink, guess that means we wont see him with Northland this year!

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                    Steven Harris
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                    Unfortunately not

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                      Unfortunately not

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                      taniwharugby
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                      @Steven-Harris thats a shame, injury has robbed us of the best of him, at all levels I think.

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                        Not quite the news Northland were looking for ,Ireland U20 attack coach Mark Sexton ,brother of Johnny has had to decline a role with the Taniwha 2023
                        Sexton was released by the Irish Rugby Union to join Northland ,but Connach refused to release the outstanding young coach and re negotiated for a sum even Northland could’nt match
                        A lot of work had gone in behind the scene to get what would have been an outstanding pick up
                        Sexton is rated as one of the best up and coming young coaches in the Northern Hemphishere
                        Will be watching the Irish U20s with great interest in this years U20 world cup
                        The Northland head coach will be named early next week

                        On some good news

                        Allen Craig has been bought into the Blues squad to replace Sam Darry
                        Heremaia Murray has joined the Highlanders
                        Pisi Leilua is with the Samoan 7s squad in England
                        Rory Woods into the NZ U20 squad
                        Tom Robinson has been released by the NZ Rugby

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                        @Steven-Harris said in Northland 2023:

                        Rory Woods into the NZ U20 squad

                        Is someone injured?

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                          @Steven-Harris said in Northland 2023:

                          Rory Woods into the NZ U20 squad

                          Is someone injured?

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                          Steven Harris
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                          @Bovidae one of the locks apparently

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                            Not quite the news Northland were looking for ,Ireland U20 attack coach Mark Sexton ,brother of Johnny has had to decline a role with the Taniwha 2023
                            Sexton was released by the Irish Rugby Union to join Northland ,but Connach refused to release the outstanding young coach and re negotiated for a sum even Northland could’nt match
                            A lot of work had gone in behind the scene to get what would have been an outstanding pick up
                            Sexton is rated as one of the best up and coming young coaches in the Northern Hemphishere
                            Will be watching the Irish U20s with great interest in this years U20 world cup
                            The Northland head coach will be named early next week

                            On some good news

                            Allen Craig has been bought into the Blues squad to replace Sam Darry
                            Heremaia Murray has joined the Highlanders
                            Pisi Leilua is with the Samoan 7s squad in England
                            Rory Woods into the NZ U20 squad
                            Tom Robinson has been released by the NZ Rugby

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                            Tim
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                            @Steven-Harris Craig looked like a beast preseason. How big is he now?

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                              @Steven-Harris Craig looked like a beast preseason. How big is he now?

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                              taniwharugby
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                              @Tim I watched him a couple of weeks ago, still looks in good nick, plays in same team as Rush, who I must say looked a man amongst boys, he is in great shape.

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                                @Steven-Harris Craig looked like a beast preseason. How big is he now?

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                                Steven Harris
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                                @Tim hes developed into a real work horse , i always thought he was a bit on the light side but to be fair has bulked up in the last 2 years ,did not look out of place in the Blues preseason game

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                                  Chiefy07
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                                  I see Northland are also looking for two assistant coaches - defence and set piece. Wonder if this means Graham Dewes is going to be new head coach or that he doesn't want to work with new coach or not wanted by new coach.

                                  Surely so much coaching upheaval isn't going to be good this close to the season

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                                    I see Northland are also looking for two assistant coaches - defence and set piece. Wonder if this means Graham Dewes is going to be new head coach or that he doesn't want to work with new coach or not wanted by new coach.

                                    Surely so much coaching upheaval isn't going to be good this close to the season

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                                    taniwharugby
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                                    @Chiefy07 well if you believe some of what you hear the same players that have been running some sessions are still there 😉

                                    Yeah I rate Dewes technical ability, but will be concerned if he is appointed head coach, although doesn't he have some gig with Fiji too?

                                    Yeah the coaching situation is not ideal, which means the union and fans will need to temper expectations for this season at the very least...haha yeah right, I aim low to meet expectations...

                                    seriously though, the core of a very good npc squad still exists, many experienced players at both npc and super, I think top 4 still a goal, but the real goal is a home semi IMO, something that hasn't happened since the old 2nd div??

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                                      Former Otago ,Highlander and Scotish International John Leslie will be named as the new Northland Taniwha head coach , Leslie who is highly regarded in the Otago region as a coach has had great success at club level and has been mentored by both Jamie Joseph and Tony Brown
                                      From what i understand at this stage it will be just an interim role for the one season
                                      Quite excited about this appointment , from what i have heard has a very sharp rugby brain

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                                        Former Otago ,Highlander and Scotish International John Leslie will be named as the new Northland Taniwha head coach , Leslie who is highly regarded in the Otago region as a coach has had great success at club level and has been mentored by both Jamie Joseph and Tony Brown
                                        From what i understand at this stage it will be just an interim role for the one season
                                        Quite excited about this appointment , from what i have heard has a very sharp rugby brain

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                                        @Steven-Harris odd just as an interim coach, I mean it is always gonna be tough for any new coach coming in, but that first year especially.

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                                          @Steven-Harris odd just as an interim coach, I mean it is always gonna be tough for any new coach coming in, but that first year especially.

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                                          @taniwharugby i know hes had Kees Meeuws as forward coach which would be very handy

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