All Blacks v England
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Maybe ALB looking slow at centre is two fold.
1.Match fitness usually takes a lot of games after a long lay off to get back to speed .
2.Reiko is redefining how we look at a centre now, express speed in the middle of the park is a big point of difference in the modern game.
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Maybe ALB looking slow at centre is two fold.
1.Match fitness usually takes a lot of games after a long lay off to get back to speed .
2.Reiko is redefining how we look at a centre now, express speed in the middle of the park is a big point of difference in the modern game.
@Chris said in All Blacks v England:
Maybe ALB looking slow at centre is two fold.
1.Match fitness usually takes a lot of games after a long lay off to get back to speed .
2.Reiko is redefining how we look at a centre now, express speed in the middle of the park is a big point of difference in the modern game.
I'm not sure he was that slow either, more rusty and looks more comfortable at 12.
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@Chris said in All Blacks v England:
Maybe ALB looking slow at centre is two fold.
1.Match fitness usually takes a lot of games after a long lay off to get back to speed .
2.Reiko is redefining how we look at a centre now, express speed in the middle of the park is a big point of difference in the modern game.
I'm not sure he was that slow either, more rusty and looks more comfortable at 12.
@Kirwan said in All Blacks v England:
@Chris said in All Blacks v England:
Maybe ALB looking slow at centre is two fold.
1.Match fitness usually takes a lot of games after a long lay off to get back to speed .
2.Reiko is redefining how we look at a centre now, express speed in the middle of the park is a big point of difference in the modern game.
I'm not sure he was that slow either, more rusty and looks more comfortable at 12.
He looked sluggish to me which is understandable,Anyone playing 13 is going to look slow compared to Reiko though,I think he will get better and can cover 13 and 12 perfect for a WC squad.
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks v England:
@Chris said in All Blacks v England:
Maybe ALB looking slow at centre is two fold.
1.Match fitness usually takes a lot of games after a long lay off to get back to speed .
2.Reiko is redefining how we look at a centre now, express speed in the middle of the park is a big point of difference in the modern game.
I'm not sure he was that slow either, more rusty and looks more comfortable at 12.
He looked sluggish to me which is understandable,Anyone playing 13 is going to look slow compared to Reiko though,I think he will get better and can cover 13 and 12 perfect for a WC squad.
@Chris said in All Blacks v England:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks v England:
@Chris said in All Blacks v England:
Maybe ALB looking slow at centre is two fold.
1.Match fitness usually takes a lot of games after a long lay off to get back to speed .
2.Reiko is redefining how we look at a centre now, express speed in the middle of the park is a big point of difference in the modern game.
I'm not sure he was that slow either, more rusty and looks more comfortable at 12.
He looked sluggish to me which is understandable,Anyone playing 13 is going to look slow compared to Reiko though,I think he will get better and can cover 13 and 12 perfect for a WC squad.
And a match day 23 out of a WC.
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@Chris said in All Blacks v England:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks v England:
@Chris said in All Blacks v England:
Maybe ALB looking slow at centre is two fold.
1.Match fitness usually takes a lot of games after a long lay off to get back to speed .
2.Reiko is redefining how we look at a centre now, express speed in the middle of the park is a big point of difference in the modern game.
I'm not sure he was that slow either, more rusty and looks more comfortable at 12.
He looked sluggish to me which is understandable,Anyone playing 13 is going to look slow compared to Reiko though,I think he will get better and can cover 13 and 12 perfect for a WC squad.
And a match day 23 out of a WC.
@Kirwan said in All Blacks v England:
@Chris said in All Blacks v England:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks v England:
@Chris said in All Blacks v England:
Maybe ALB looking slow at centre is two fold.
1.Match fitness usually takes a lot of games after a long lay off to get back to speed .
2.Reiko is redefining how we look at a centre now, express speed in the middle of the park is a big point of difference in the modern game.
I'm not sure he was that slow either, more rusty and looks more comfortable at 12.
He looked sluggish to me which is understandable,Anyone playing 13 is going to look slow compared to Reiko though,I think he will get better and can cover 13 and 12 perfect for a WC squad.
And a match day 23 out of a WC.
Yep that too.
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Maybe ALB looking slow at centre is two fold.
1.Match fitness usually takes a lot of games after a long lay off to get back to speed .
2.Reiko is redefining how we look at a centre now, express speed in the middle of the park is a big point of difference in the modern game.
@Chris said in All Blacks v England:
2.Reiko is redefining how we look at a centre now, express speed in the middle of the park is a big point of difference in the modern game.
Yeah, look at SR and how many 13's have experience on the wing too. Ioane, Heem, Sullivan, PUJ, Ennor, LF etc
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@Frank said in All Blacks v England:
Want to see more of this Eddie Jones come Saturday.
What's with England playing in black? Their Netball chicks did it too. I can't recall it being a thing before. Am I forgetting something?
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@Frank said in All Blacks v England:
Want to see more of this Eddie Jones come Saturday.
Is he ranting that the most blatant not supporting weight/hands on ground not ball penalty I've seen this year is not a penalty? I hope he's just swearing at the idiot who did it!
@Machpants I’m no expert lip reader but I think he said How stupid are we? with some colour in between
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@Frank said in All Blacks v England:
Want to see more of this Eddie Jones come Saturday.
What's with England playing in black? Their Netball chicks did it too. I can't recall it being a thing before. Am I forgetting something?
@Crazy-Horse its at least been a thing for their change strip since 2011 RWC
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@Crazy-Horse its at least been a thing for their change strip since 2011 RWC
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v England:
@Crazy-Horse its at least been a thing for their away jersey since 2011 RWC
Really? Shows how much I watch England play!
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v England:
@Crazy-Horse its at least been a thing for their away jersey since 2011 RWC
Really? Shows how much I watch England play!
@Crazy-Horse i really only remember it because some people made a big deal, "england wear black in NZ, trying to emulate NZ mana" kind of shit, same kind of stuff they said when france went to the really dark blue
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@Crazy-Horse and that might be the problem, playing at 13 in that formation with Havili inside...the role feels more like a finisher/speedster...role....which he isn't. so he might need to play outside someone like JB (so if ALB makes a break he can go in OR out to finishers) or inside RI (act as a more obvious second playmaker)
edit: i think a lot of my frustrations with fozzie is i dont believe he looks enough at, or dont understand his thinking behind, the combinations he selects, it does often feel like he views every position in isolation and not always how a player can perform in a role with the other people he's selected around them
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I’d stick with EDG, Sami and Lomax to start and have the Saders trio off the bench.
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Given how well Telea played maybe there is another decent wing out there?
We still lack a spare 13 behind Ioane if ALB no longer suits there.
From what I saw of the AB XV Big Leicester would at least add a bit of oomph.@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v England:
Given how well Telea played maybe there is another decent wing out there?
We still lack a spare 13 behind Ioane if ALB no longer suits there.
From what I saw of the AB XV Big Leicester would at least add a bit of oomph.Cough Shaun Stevenson cough
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@Chris-B there’s a couple ways it could go with 2nd 5 / centre / fullback
Jordie / Ioane / Beaudie. ALB bench
ALB / Ioane / Jordie. Beaudie bench
Jordie / ALB / Beaudie. Ioane wing
Havili / Ioane / Jordie. Beaudie and ALB bench@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v England:
@Chris-B there’s a couple ways it could go with 2nd 5 / centre / fullback
Jordie / Ioane / Beaudie. ALB bench
ALB / Ioane / Jordie. Beaudie bench
Jordie / ALB / Beaudie. Ioane wing
Havili / Ioane / Jordie. Beaudie and ALB benchYeah - and in fact my bench would allow us to change to several of those configurations if things turn to shit.
It just looks a bit to me to me like Fozzie's been building ALB back with a view to starting this game, while at the same time using Clarke up.
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@Machpants I’m no expert lip reader but I think he said How stupid are we? with some colour in between
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v England:
@Machpants I’m no expert lip reader but I think he said How stupid are we? with some colour in between
I do lip read a bit , im a bit deaf ,
Thats what he said IMO
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@ACT-Crusader I'm not sold on Newell. Good in the scrum but he is slow as a slug. I would have Bower in their and Ofa.
@broughie said in All Blacks v England:
@ACT-Crusader I'm not sold on Newell. Good in the scrum but he is slow as a slug. I would have Bower in their and Ofa.
If Newell is a slug, Ofa is a snail!
Ofa’s mobility especially with ball in hand has dropped off the cliff considerably.
