All Blacks v England
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@Frank said in All Blacks v England:
Want to see more of this Eddie Jones come Saturday.
What's with England playing in black? Their Netball chicks did it too. I can't recall it being a thing before. Am I forgetting something?
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@Frank said in All Blacks v England:
Want to see more of this Eddie Jones come Saturday.
Is he ranting that the most blatant not supporting weight/hands on ground not ball penalty I've seen this year is not a penalty? I hope he's just swearing at the idiot who did it!
@Machpants I’m no expert lip reader but I think he said How stupid are we? with some colour in between
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@Frank said in All Blacks v England:
Want to see more of this Eddie Jones come Saturday.
What's with England playing in black? Their Netball chicks did it too. I can't recall it being a thing before. Am I forgetting something?
@Crazy-Horse its at least been a thing for their change strip since 2011 RWC
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@Crazy-Horse its at least been a thing for their change strip since 2011 RWC
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v England:
@Crazy-Horse its at least been a thing for their away jersey since 2011 RWC
Really? Shows how much I watch England play!
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v England:
@Crazy-Horse its at least been a thing for their away jersey since 2011 RWC
Really? Shows how much I watch England play!
@Crazy-Horse i really only remember it because some people made a big deal, "england wear black in NZ, trying to emulate NZ mana" kind of shit, same kind of stuff they said when france went to the really dark blue
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@Crazy-Horse and that might be the problem, playing at 13 in that formation with Havili inside...the role feels more like a finisher/speedster...role....which he isn't. so he might need to play outside someone like JB (so if ALB makes a break he can go in OR out to finishers) or inside RI (act as a more obvious second playmaker)
edit: i think a lot of my frustrations with fozzie is i dont believe he looks enough at, or dont understand his thinking behind, the combinations he selects, it does often feel like he views every position in isolation and not always how a player can perform in a role with the other people he's selected around them
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I’d stick with EDG, Sami and Lomax to start and have the Saders trio off the bench.
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Given how well Telea played maybe there is another decent wing out there?
We still lack a spare 13 behind Ioane if ALB no longer suits there.
From what I saw of the AB XV Big Leicester would at least add a bit of oomph.@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v England:
Given how well Telea played maybe there is another decent wing out there?
We still lack a spare 13 behind Ioane if ALB no longer suits there.
From what I saw of the AB XV Big Leicester would at least add a bit of oomph.Cough Shaun Stevenson cough
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@Chris-B there’s a couple ways it could go with 2nd 5 / centre / fullback
Jordie / Ioane / Beaudie. ALB bench
ALB / Ioane / Jordie. Beaudie bench
Jordie / ALB / Beaudie. Ioane wing
Havili / Ioane / Jordie. Beaudie and ALB bench@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v England:
@Chris-B there’s a couple ways it could go with 2nd 5 / centre / fullback
Jordie / Ioane / Beaudie. ALB bench
ALB / Ioane / Jordie. Beaudie bench
Jordie / ALB / Beaudie. Ioane wing
Havili / Ioane / Jordie. Beaudie and ALB benchYeah - and in fact my bench would allow us to change to several of those configurations if things turn to shit.
It just looks a bit to me to me like Fozzie's been building ALB back with a view to starting this game, while at the same time using Clarke up.
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@Machpants I’m no expert lip reader but I think he said How stupid are we? with some colour in between
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v England:
@Machpants I’m no expert lip reader but I think he said How stupid are we? with some colour in between
I do lip read a bit , im a bit deaf ,
Thats what he said IMO
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@ACT-Crusader I'm not sold on Newell. Good in the scrum but he is slow as a slug. I would have Bower in their and Ofa.
@broughie said in All Blacks v England:
@ACT-Crusader I'm not sold on Newell. Good in the scrum but he is slow as a slug. I would have Bower in their and Ofa.
If Newell is a slug, Ofa is a snail!
Ofa’s mobility especially with ball in hand has dropped off the cliff considerably.
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@broughie said in All Blacks v England:
@ACT-Crusader I'm not sold on Newell. Good in the scrum but he is slow as a slug. I would have Bower in their and Ofa.
If Newell is a slug, Ofa is a snail!
Ofa’s mobility especially with ball in hand has dropped off the cliff considerably.
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@Machpants said in All Blacks Vs England:
Shame to win a RWC you need 3 good ones in a row
Even in 2015 we struggled against SA and didn't play well - just did enough.
2011 was the final... we really went into our shells after a few things didn't go our way.
2007 .... arguable about how well we played against the frogs, but we certainly went to pieces mentally.
Frankly, a lot of RWC is the draw. Look at SA 2007: Fiji Argentina England to win the thing...
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@ACT-Crusader I think you'll find it's a little bit better than Newhalls he is still young.
@broughie said in All Blacks v England:
@ACT-Crusader I think you'll find it's a little bit better than Newhalls he is still young.
I'm thoroughly unconvinced by that - Ofa's last couple of outings have been very undynamic.
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G. Bower, C. Taylor, F. Newell, T. Chief, S. Whitelock, S. Barrett, B. Harmon, T. Cane, T. Lander, R. Mo’unga, L. Fainga’anuku, B. Ennor, T. Blue, S. Reece, J. Barrett
Good balanced side. Plenty of grunt and hard workers up front and size in the backs.
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@broughie said in All Blacks v England:
@ACT-Crusader I think you'll find it's a little bit better than Newhalls he is still young.
I'm thoroughly unconvinced by that - Ofa's last couple of outings have been very undynamic.
@Bones I concede that Ofa is not as good as a couple of years ago. Don't remember Newell carting it up with any substantial impact and just an observation. Always willing to be corrected especially if I've offended those Cantabs who think everything forward must wear black and red.
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@Bones I concede that Ofa is not as good as a couple of years ago. Don't remember Newell carting it up with any substantial impact and just an observation. Always willing to be corrected especially if I've offended those Cantabs who think everything forward must wear black and red.
@broughie said in All Blacks v England:
@Bones I concede that Ofa is not as good as a couple of years ago. Don't remember Newell carting it up with any substantial impact and just an observation. Always willing to be corrected especially if I've offended those Cantabs who think everything forward must wear black and red.
Ofa is in the same category as Clarke, that away win against the Crusaders he was running like a back and powering through people at will. Never seen him so mobile.
Both seem to have struggled in the AB camp to being their Super form back to Test level. Part of that may be returning from injury, or just confidence, but the difference is marked.
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@broughie said in All Blacks v England:
@Bones I concede that Ofa is not as good as a couple of years ago. Don't remember Newell carting it up with any substantial impact and just an observation. Always willing to be corrected especially if I've offended those Cantabs who think everything forward must wear black and red.
Ofa is in the same category as Clarke, that away win against the Crusaders he was running like a back and powering through people at will. Never seen him so mobile.
Both seem to have struggled in the AB camp to being their Super form back to Test level. Part of that may be returning from injury, or just confidence, but the difference is marked.
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@Bones said in All Blacks v England:
@Kirwan ahhh...so both should have played both games for the ABXV?
No, neither have been playing as badly as some have mentioned on here.
There is a nexus of negativity infecting some posters at the moment, they need a glass of enjoy your fucking sport.
