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  • S Steve

    @canefan said in All Blacks v England:

    I'd prefer Reece swapped in for DH. Do we really need 2 MF subs? Perhaps if DH had been run at 15 last week we could see if he was any good there, but instead we'll run the risk of having him front against a vastly superior opponent in a place we don't generally win easily instead...

    It’s really average isn’t it. 9 games out from a World Cup we are fielding that slop.

    There is a DMAC shaped hole on that bench and Will Jordan nailed on for 15.

    I think Beaudys days are numbered.

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    @Steve said in All Blacks v England:

    @canefan said in All Blacks v England:

    I'd prefer Reece swapped in for DH. Do we really need 2 MF subs? Perhaps if DH had been run at 15 last week we could see if he was any good there, but instead we'll run the risk of having him front against a vastly superior opponent in a place we don't generally win easily instead...

    It’s really average isn’t it. 9 games out from a World Cup we are fielding that slop.

    There is a DMAC shaped hole on that bench and Will Jordan nailed on for 15.

    I think Beaudys days are numbered.

    So basically if Telea vs Scotland was actually a mirage, and CC fails to kick on again, or one of either of those guys gets crocked, we are fucked

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      @Duluth Good looking squad. More or less what I expected. I hope Brodie has a good one in his 100th!

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          @Duluth

          No real surprises there except starting Taylor.

          Are they rotating Nepo & Ofa?

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          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v England:

          @Duluth

          No real surprises there except starting Taylor.

          Are they rotating Nepo & Ofa?

          Nepo and Fletch.

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            Talea leapfrogs Reece.

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              Two good fucking sides should be a ripper of a game

              We win and everyone heads in to summer feeling pretty good.

              Lose though and all we'll remember is this game and the early part of the year.

              Who'd be an AB coach aye?

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              • canefanC canefan

                @Steve said in All Blacks v England:

                @canefan said in All Blacks v England:

                I'd prefer Reece swapped in for DH. Do we really need 2 MF subs? Perhaps if DH had been run at 15 last week we could see if he was any good there, but instead we'll run the risk of having him front against a vastly superior opponent in a place we don't generally win easily instead...

                It’s really average isn’t it. 9 games out from a World Cup we are fielding that slop.

                There is a DMAC shaped hole on that bench and Will Jordan nailed on for 15.

                I think Beaudys days are numbered.

                So basically if Telea vs Scotland was actually a mirage, and CC fails to kick on again, or one of either of those guys gets crocked, we are fucked

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                @canefan said in All Blacks v England:

                @Steve said in All Blacks v England:

                @canefan said in All Blacks v England:

                I'd prefer Reece swapped in for DH. Do we really need 2 MF subs? Perhaps if DH had been run at 15 last week we could see if he was any good there, but instead we'll run the risk of having him front against a vastly superior opponent in a place we don't generally win easily instead...

                It’s really average isn’t it. 9 games out from a World Cup we are fielding that slop.

                There is a DMAC shaped hole on that bench and Will Jordan nailed on for 15.

                I think Beaudys days are numbered.

                So basically if Telea vs Scotland was actually a mirage, and CC fails to kick on again, or one of either of those guys gets crocked, we are fucked

                This match is a dress rehearsal for next year (or at least it should have been).

                He has a bloke at 12 who he never wanted at 12.
                We have a fullback who was 10 last week who never scores anymore.
                A winger who wasn’t in the initial squad.
                The best hooker in the world (who scores every week) on the bench.
                A reserve 9 who was launched out of the squad as yesterdays man and is now back in the squad.
                We have scooter back at 6 just like RWC 2019 semi final.
                We have Sotutu on the bench who has basically only played against Japan .
                Akira has been jettisoned altogether.
                We have two midfielders on the bench , both of whom look like they are running in custard.

                We are falling arse over tit towards the next World Cup. I don’t know what Foster has been trying to do.

                Compare it to 2015, where we knew our best players in every position and sprinkled in some irresistible Milner Skudder fairy dust pre tournament.

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                • S Steve

                  @canefan said in All Blacks v England:

                  @Steve said in All Blacks v England:

                  @canefan said in All Blacks v England:

                  I'd prefer Reece swapped in for DH. Do we really need 2 MF subs? Perhaps if DH had been run at 15 last week we could see if he was any good there, but instead we'll run the risk of having him front against a vastly superior opponent in a place we don't generally win easily instead...

                  It’s really average isn’t it. 9 games out from a World Cup we are fielding that slop.

                  There is a DMAC shaped hole on that bench and Will Jordan nailed on for 15.

                  I think Beaudys days are numbered.

                  So basically if Telea vs Scotland was actually a mirage, and CC fails to kick on again, or one of either of those guys gets crocked, we are fucked

                  This match is a dress rehearsal for next year (or at least it should have been).

                  He has a bloke at 12 who he never wanted at 12.
                  We have a fullback who was 10 last week who never scores anymore.
                  A winger who wasn’t in the initial squad.
                  The best hooker in the world (who scores every week) on the bench.
                  A reserve 9 who was launched out of the squad as yesterdays man and is now back in the squad.
                  We have scooter back at 6 just like RWC 2019 semi final.
                  We have Sotutu on the bench who has basically only played against Japan .
                  Akira has been jettisoned altogether.
                  We have two midfielders on the bench , both of whom look like they are running in custard.

                  We are falling arse over tit towards the next World Cup. I don’t know what Foster has been trying to do.

                  Compare it to 2015, where we knew our best players in every position and sprinkled in some irresistible Milner Skudder fairy dust pre tournament.

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                  @Steve said in All Blacks v England:

                  @canefan said in All Blacks v England:

                  @Steve said in All Blacks v England:

                  @canefan said in All Blacks v England:

                  I'd prefer Reece swapped in for DH. Do we really need 2 MF subs? Perhaps if DH had been run at 15 last week we could see if he was any good there, but instead we'll run the risk of having him front against a vastly superior opponent in a place we don't generally win easily instead...

                  It’s really average isn’t it. 9 games out from a World Cup we are fielding that slop.

                  There is a DMAC shaped hole on that bench and Will Jordan nailed on for 15.

                  I think Beaudys days are numbered.

                  So basically if Telea vs Scotland was actually a mirage, and CC fails to kick on again, or one of either of those guys gets crocked, we are fucked

                  This match is a dress rehearsal for next year (or at least it should have been).

                  He has a bloke at 12 who he never wanted at 12.
                  We have a fullback who was 10 last week who never scores anymore.
                  A winger who wasn’t in the initial squad.
                  The best hooker in the world (who scores every week) on the bench.
                  A reserve 9 who was launched out of the squad as yesterdays man and is now back in the squad.
                  We have scooter back at 6 just like RWC 2019 semi final.
                  We have Sotutu on the bench who has basically only played against Japan .
                  Akira has been jettisoned altogether.
                  We have two midfielders on the bench , both of whom look like they are running in custard.

                  We are falling arse over tit towards the next World Cup. I don’t know what Foster has been trying to do.

                  Compare it to 2015, where we knew our best players in every position and sprinkled in some irresistible Milner Skudder fairy dust pre tournament.

                  The best comparison I can recall was Laurie Mains and his constant chopping and changing all the way up into the 1995 RWC. Foster will hope that something sticks in time for 2023. But from where I am sitting he just seems to be guessing

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                    Happy enough with that. Would not have DH and ALB on the bench though.

                    Think that’s the end for Akira just has not taken his chances.

                    Delighted for Telea. He did take his chance and gets a deserved start.

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                    • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                      Happy enough with that. Would not have DH and ALB on the bench though.

                      Think that’s the end for Akira just has not taken his chances.

                      Delighted for Telea. He did take his chance and gets a deserved start.

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                      @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v England:

                      Happy enough with that. Would not have DH and ALB on the bench though.

                      Think that’s the end for Akira just has not taken his chances.

                      Delighted for Telea. He did take his chance and gets a deserved start.

                      Akira is far too loose for England IMHO

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                      • canefanC canefan

                        @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v England:

                        Happy enough with that. Would not have DH and ALB on the bench though.

                        Think that’s the end for Akira just has not taken his chances.

                        Delighted for Telea. He did take his chance and gets a deserved start.

                        Akira is far too loose for England IMHO

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                        @canefan said in All Blacks v England:

                        @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v England:

                        Happy enough with that. Would not have DH and ALB on the bench though.

                        Think that’s the end for Akira just has not taken his chances.

                        Delighted for Telea. He did take his chance and gets a deserved start.

                        Akira is far too loose for England IMHO

                        If he is too loose for England , you can add France Ireland and South Africa to the list . So knockout rugby is not in his future.

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                          Frank
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                          Most interesting point of selection for me Scott Barrett at 6.

                          I thought it would happen, but it's confirmation we want to play very physical and tight with more emphasis on forward power than in previous years and I think it is an indicator of the strategy going forward into the World Cup.

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                          • FrankF Frank

                            Most interesting point of selection for me Scott Barrett at 6.

                            I thought it would happen, but it's confirmation we want to play very physical and tight with more emphasis on forward power than in previous years and I think it is an indicator of the strategy going forward into the World Cup.

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                            @Frank said in All Blacks v England:

                            Most interesting point of selection for me Scott Barrett at 6.

                            I thought it would happen, but it's confirmation we want to play very physical and tight with more emphasis on forward power than in previous years.

                            We have come full circle right back to RWC semi again.
                            Scooter at 6 and the dual playmakers 10/15

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                            • S Steve

                              @Frank said in All Blacks v England:

                              Most interesting point of selection for me Scott Barrett at 6.

                              I thought it would happen, but it's confirmation we want to play very physical and tight with more emphasis on forward power than in previous years.

                              We have come full circle right back to RWC semi again.
                              Scooter at 6 and the dual playmakers 10/15

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                              @Steve said in All Blacks v England:

                              @Frank said in All Blacks v England:

                              Most interesting point of selection for me Scott Barrett at 6.

                              I thought it would happen, but it's confirmation we want to play very physical and tight with more emphasis on forward power than in previous years.

                              We have come full circle right back to RWC semi again.
                              Scooter at 6 and the dual playmakers 10/15

                              Hopefully Einstein was wrong

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                              • S Steve

                                @canefan said in All Blacks v England:

                                @Steve said in All Blacks v England:

                                @canefan said in All Blacks v England:

                                I'd prefer Reece swapped in for DH. Do we really need 2 MF subs? Perhaps if DH had been run at 15 last week we could see if he was any good there, but instead we'll run the risk of having him front against a vastly superior opponent in a place we don't generally win easily instead...

                                It’s really average isn’t it. 9 games out from a World Cup we are fielding that slop.

                                There is a DMAC shaped hole on that bench and Will Jordan nailed on for 15.

                                I think Beaudys days are numbered.

                                So basically if Telea vs Scotland was actually a mirage, and CC fails to kick on again, or one of either of those guys gets crocked, we are fucked

                                This match is a dress rehearsal for next year (or at least it should have been).

                                He has a bloke at 12 who he never wanted at 12.
                                We have a fullback who was 10 last week who never scores anymore.
                                A winger who wasn’t in the initial squad.
                                The best hooker in the world (who scores every week) on the bench.
                                A reserve 9 who was launched out of the squad as yesterdays man and is now back in the squad.
                                We have scooter back at 6 just like RWC 2019 semi final.
                                We have Sotutu on the bench who has basically only played against Japan .
                                Akira has been jettisoned altogether.
                                We have two midfielders on the bench , both of whom look like they are running in custard.

                                We are falling arse over tit towards the next World Cup. I don’t know what Foster has been trying to do.

                                Compare it to 2015, where we knew our best players in every position and sprinkled in some irresistible Milner Skudder fairy dust pre tournament.

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                                @Steve said in All Blacks v England:

                                We have scooter back at 6 just like RWC 2019 semi final.

                                Not such a good omen.

                                @canefan said in All Blacks v England:

                                Akira is far too loose for England IMHO

                                And yet he played too tight against Scotland.

                                Essentially Kaino ruined 6's for us - we've had Blackadder, Frizell and Akira all have good games and average games and we're going to continually keep trying Scooter. A guy had a decent game for the ABXV one week and he was anointed the next big thing. Surely MMT needs to have his chance next year. 😉

                                Very quick backline (JB would be the slowest poke) so if they get some space they could do some damage. Good to see Telea get another shot.

                                Taylor better continue his slight upwards trajectory and not resort to type.

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                                  Regardless of the team.

                                  We owe these kunts a towelling.

                                  Into them like rabid dogs.

                                  I want to see kapa o pango. Exocet clean outs, and Nigel’s in their debenture seats crying into their Pimms and Diet Coke.

                                  Let’s fucking have it.

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                                  • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                    @Steve said in All Blacks v England:

                                    @Frank said in All Blacks v England:

                                    Most interesting point of selection for me Scott Barrett at 6.

                                    I thought it would happen, but it's confirmation we want to play very physical and tight with more emphasis on forward power than in previous years.

                                    We have come full circle right back to RWC semi again.
                                    Scooter at 6 and the dual playmakers 10/15

                                    Hopefully Einstein was wrong

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                                    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v England:

                                    @Steve said in All Blacks v England:

                                    @Frank said in All Blacks v England:

                                    Most interesting point of selection for me Scott Barrett at 6.

                                    I thought it would happen, but it's confirmation we want to play very physical and tight with more emphasis on forward power than in previous years.

                                    We have come full circle right back to RWC semi again.
                                    Scooter at 6 and the dual playmakers 10/15

                                    Hopefully Einstein was wrong

                                    Don't forget that they benched Sam Cane and that the game plan was try and find magical fake space on the edges.

                                    Hansen won in 2015 and well done that man, but he should have been gone by 2019.

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                                    • gt12G gt12

                                      @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v England:

                                      @Steve said in All Blacks v England:

                                      @Frank said in All Blacks v England:

                                      Most interesting point of selection for me Scott Barrett at 6.

                                      I thought it would happen, but it's confirmation we want to play very physical and tight with more emphasis on forward power than in previous years.

                                      We have come full circle right back to RWC semi again.
                                      Scooter at 6 and the dual playmakers 10/15

                                      Hopefully Einstein was wrong

                                      Don't forget that they benched Sam Cane and that the game plan was try and find magical fake space on the edges.

                                      Hansen won in 2015 and well done that man, but he should have been gone by 2019.

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                                      @gt12 said in All Blacks v England:

                                      @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v England:

                                      @Steve said in All Blacks v England:

                                      @Frank said in All Blacks v England:

                                      Most interesting point of selection for me Scott Barrett at 6.

                                      I thought it would happen, but it's confirmation we want to play very physical and tight with more emphasis on forward power than in previous years.

                                      We have come full circle right back to RWC semi again.
                                      Scooter at 6 and the dual playmakers 10/15

                                      Hopefully Einstein was wrong

                                      Don't forget that they benched Sam Cane and that the game plan was try and find magical fake space on the edges.

                                      Hansen won in 2015 and well done that man, but he should have been gone by 2019.

                                      And then his deputy (Foster) who was involved in that selection process, gets the head coach gig and gives the captaincy to the bloke they benched for the biggest game in 4 years.

                                      Such muddled up thinking from 2017 Lions tour onwards.

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                                      • gt12G gt12

                                        @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v England:

                                        @Steve said in All Blacks v England:

                                        @Frank said in All Blacks v England:

                                        Most interesting point of selection for me Scott Barrett at 6.

                                        I thought it would happen, but it's confirmation we want to play very physical and tight with more emphasis on forward power than in previous years.

                                        We have come full circle right back to RWC semi again.
                                        Scooter at 6 and the dual playmakers 10/15

                                        Hopefully Einstein was wrong

                                        Don't forget that they benched Sam Cane and that the game plan was try and find magical fake space on the edges.

                                        Hansen won in 2015 and well done that man, but he should have been gone by 2019.

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                                        #205

                                        @gt12 said in All Blacks v England:

                                        @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v England:

                                        @Steve said in All Blacks v England:

                                        @Frank said in All Blacks v England:

                                        Most interesting point of selection for me Scott Barrett at 6.

                                        I thought it would happen, but it's confirmation we want to play very physical and tight with more emphasis on forward power than in previous years.

                                        We have come full circle right back to RWC semi again.
                                        Scooter at 6 and the dual playmakers 10/15

                                        Hopefully Einstein was wrong

                                        Don't forget that they benched Sam Cane and that the game plan was try and find magical fake space on the edges.

                                        Hansen won in 2015 and well done that man, but he should have been gone by 2019.

                                        He knew he should go in 2017 but the NZRFU convinced Shag to stay. Then they doubled down by picking Fozzie, setting us back for an entire RWC cycle

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                                        • S Steve

                                          @canefan said in All Blacks v England:

                                          @Steve said in All Blacks v England:

                                          @canefan said in All Blacks v England:

                                          I'd prefer Reece swapped in for DH. Do we really need 2 MF subs? Perhaps if DH had been run at 15 last week we could see if he was any good there, but instead we'll run the risk of having him front against a vastly superior opponent in a place we don't generally win easily instead...

                                          It’s really average isn’t it. 9 games out from a World Cup we are fielding that slop.

                                          There is a DMAC shaped hole on that bench and Will Jordan nailed on for 15.

                                          I think Beaudys days are numbered.

                                          So basically if Telea vs Scotland was actually a mirage, and CC fails to kick on again, or one of either of those guys gets crocked, we are fucked

                                          This match is a dress rehearsal for next year (or at least it should have been).

                                          He has a bloke at 12 who he never wanted at 12.
                                          We have a fullback who was 10 last week who never scores anymore.
                                          A winger who wasn’t in the initial squad.
                                          The best hooker in the world (who scores every week) on the bench.
                                          A reserve 9 who was launched out of the squad as yesterdays man and is now back in the squad.
                                          We have scooter back at 6 just like RWC 2019 semi final.
                                          We have Sotutu on the bench who has basically only played against Japan .
                                          Akira has been jettisoned altogether.
                                          We have two midfielders on the bench , both of whom look like they are running in custard.

                                          We are falling arse over tit towards the next World Cup. I don’t know what Foster has been trying to do.

                                          Compare it to 2015, where we knew our best players in every position and sprinkled in some irresistible Milner Skudder fairy dust pre tournament.

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                                          @Steve said in All Blacks v England:

                                          A reserve 9 who was launched out of the squad as yesterdays man and is now back in the squad.

                                          Makes perfect sense to me. Fakatava getting injured reduced his options for the 3rd halfback role. Christie wasn't that flash last week & TJP grabbed his chance & did pretty well.

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