All Blacks v England
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England social media celebrating the draw.
https://twitter.com/EnglandRugby/status/1594048772081913857?t=GyGEeEdXxO23GL6R3WRgfQ&s=19
@sparky said in All Blacks v England:
England social media celebrating the draw.
https://twitter.com/EnglandRugby/status/1594048772081913857?t=GyGEeEdXxO23GL6R3WRgfQ&s=19
It gives me flashbacks of Will Carling carried around Twickenham after another glorious draw against the ABs
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks v England:
@Crazy-Horse Yep, and one try was given that should have been disallowed, because there was no conclusive evidence of a grounding.
Disagree re the grounding. I thought an angle showed the ball clearly on the line. They only showed the angle once soon after the try, but the ball definitely touched the line.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v England:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks v England:
@Crazy-Horse Yep, and one try was given that should have been disallowed, because there was no conclusive evidence of a grounding.
Disagree re the grounding. I thought an angle showed the ball clearly on the line. They only showed the angle once soon after the try, but the ball definitely touched the line.
Guess it depends on your definition of clear and obvious. Mine is to see the ball clearly on the line, quite obviously. Not "I think that might be a blade of grass coloured white touching the ball".
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@sparky said in All Blacks v England:
England social media celebrating the draw.
https://twitter.com/EnglandRugby/status/1594048772081913857?t=GyGEeEdXxO23GL6R3WRgfQ&s=19
It gives me flashbacks of Will Carling carried around Twickenham after another glorious draw against the ABs
@canefan said in All Blacks v England:
@sparky said in All Blacks v England:
England social media celebrating the draw.
https://twitter.com/EnglandRugby/status/1594048772081913857?t=GyGEeEdXxO23GL6R3WRgfQ&s=19
It gives me flashbacks of Will Carling carried around Twickenham after another glorious draw against the ABs
And so they should. They shouldn’t have got close. That was a fantastic draw for them to come back from so far down.
Fair dues to them
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v England:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks v England:
@Crazy-Horse Yep, and one try was given that should have been disallowed, because there was no conclusive evidence of a grounding.
Disagree re the grounding. I thought an angle showed the ball clearly on the line. They only showed the angle once soon after the try, but the ball definitely touched the line.
Guess it depends on your definition of clear and obvious. Mine is to see the ball clearly on the line, quite obviously. Not "I think that might be a blade of grass coloured white touching the ball".
@Bones said in All Blacks v England:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v England:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks v England:
@Crazy-Horse Yep, and one try was given that should have been disallowed, because there was no conclusive evidence of a grounding.
Disagree re the grounding. I thought an angle showed the ball clearly on the line. They only showed the angle once soon after the try, but the ball definitely touched the line.
Guess it depends on your definition of clear and obvious. Mine is to see the ball clearly on the line, quite obviously. Not "I think that might be a blade of grass coloured white touching the ball".
I saw the ball clearly on the line.
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England were under the pump till the 71st minute, but the ABs should have nailed the coffin long before. There were costly errors when the NZ forwards were destroying their English counterparts : two crooked throws by Taylor and two missed kicks by RM after favorable penalties.
@cgrant said in All Blacks v England:
England were under the pump till the 71st minute, but the ABs should have nailed the coffin long before. There were costly errors when the NZ forwards were destroying their English counterparts : two crooked throws by Taylor and two missed kicks by RM after favorable penalties.
You didn't think the ST crooked throw after a penalty was a bit costly?
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Ref was fine. BB, honestly where was he all game, he's past it. Whitelock also can't pull 80 minutes. Brodie simply wasn't fit. Why we kept both locks on is beyond me, it was obvious they were gassed. Although some might think that's a choke, I think the gold star goes to England for just putting it out. Pathetic. Who dares wins? Honestly, embarrassing. I'm actually shocked England cut us to bits like that out wide, goes to show we've still got a very long way to go. A draw with England is a loss in my book, but in this day and age I'm sure NZRFU won't see it like that.
@LagerLout said in All Blacks v England:
Ref was fine. BB, honestly where was he all game, he's past it. Whitelock also can't pull 80 minutes. Brodie simply wasn't fit. Why we kept both locks on is beyond me, it was obvious they were gassed. Although some might think that's a choke, I think the gold star goes to England for just putting it out. Pathetic. Who dares wins? Honestly, embarrassing. I'm actually shocked England cut us to bits like that out wide, goes to show we've still got a very long way to go. A draw with England is a loss in my book, but in this day and age I'm sure NZRFU won't see it like that.
Spot on. Some of these players have to give way for younger ones. Hate to harp on but it all goes back to Foster who should not be there. You have to ruthless and get rid of some of the dead wood. On this choke we do not have a chance next year in France.
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@LagerLout said in All Blacks v England:
Ref was fine. BB, honestly where was he all game, he's past it. Whitelock also can't pull 80 minutes. Brodie simply wasn't fit. Why we kept both locks on is beyond me, it was obvious they were gassed. Although some might think that's a choke, I think the gold star goes to England for just putting it out. Pathetic. Who dares wins? Honestly, embarrassing. I'm actually shocked England cut us to bits like that out wide, goes to show we've still got a very long way to go. A draw with England is a loss in my book, but in this day and age I'm sure NZRFU won't see it like that.
Spot on. Some of these players have to give way for younger ones. Hate to harp on but it all goes back to Foster who should not be there. You have to ruthless and get rid of some of the dead wood. On this choke we do not have a chance next year in France.
@mencey said in All Blacks v England:
@LagerLout said in All Blacks v England:
Ref was fine. BB, honestly where was he all game, he's past it. Whitelock also can't pull 80 minutes. Brodie simply wasn't fit. Why we kept both locks on is beyond me, it was obvious they were gassed. Although some might think that's a choke, I think the gold star goes to England for just putting it out. Pathetic. Who dares wins? Honestly, embarrassing. I'm actually shocked England cut us to bits like that out wide, goes to show we've still got a very long way to go. A draw with England is a loss in my book, but in this day and age I'm sure NZRFU won't see it like that.
Spot on. Some of these players have to give way for younger ones. Hate to harp on but it all goes back to Foster who should not be there. You have to ruthless and get rid of some of the dead wood. On this choke we do not have a chance next year in France.
Of we do well in France maybe we look back to this game as a marker....
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@Bones said in All Blacks v England:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v England:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks v England:
@Crazy-Horse Yep, and one try was given that should have been disallowed, because there was no conclusive evidence of a grounding.
Disagree re the grounding. I thought an angle showed the ball clearly on the line. They only showed the angle once soon after the try, but the ball definitely touched the line.
Guess it depends on your definition of clear and obvious. Mine is to see the ball clearly on the line, quite obviously. Not "I think that might be a blade of grass coloured white touching the ball".
I saw the ball clearly on the line.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v England:
@Bones said in All Blacks v England:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v England:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks v England:
@Crazy-Horse Yep, and one try was given that should have been disallowed, because there was no conclusive evidence of a grounding.
Disagree re the grounding. I thought an angle showed the ball clearly on the line. They only showed the angle once soon after the try, but the ball definitely touched the line.
Guess it depends on your definition of clear and obvious. Mine is to see the ball clearly on the line, quite obviously. Not "I think that might be a blade of grass coloured white touching the ball".
I saw the ball clearly on the line.
You and Raynal both. I'm happy with my decision.
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@mencey said in All Blacks v England:
@LagerLout said in All Blacks v England:
Ref was fine. BB, honestly where was he all game, he's past it. Whitelock also can't pull 80 minutes. Brodie simply wasn't fit. Why we kept both locks on is beyond me, it was obvious they were gassed. Although some might think that's a choke, I think the gold star goes to England for just putting it out. Pathetic. Who dares wins? Honestly, embarrassing. I'm actually shocked England cut us to bits like that out wide, goes to show we've still got a very long way to go. A draw with England is a loss in my book, but in this day and age I'm sure NZRFU won't see it like that.
Spot on. Some of these players have to give way for younger ones. Hate to harp on but it all goes back to Foster who should not be there. You have to ruthless and get rid of some of the dead wood. On this choke we do not have a chance next year in France.
Of we do well in France maybe we look back to this game as a marker....
@canefan said in All Blacks v England:
@mencey said in All Blacks v England:
@LagerLout said in All Blacks v England:
Ref was fine. BB, honestly where was he all game, he's past it. Whitelock also can't pull 80 minutes. Brodie simply wasn't fit. Why we kept both locks on is beyond me, it was obvious they were gassed. Although some might think that's a choke, I think the gold star goes to England for just putting it out. Pathetic. Who dares wins? Honestly, embarrassing. I'm actually shocked England cut us to bits like that out wide, goes to show we've still got a very long way to go. A draw with England is a loss in my book, but in this day and age I'm sure NZRFU won't see it like that.
Spot on. Some of these players have to give way for younger ones. Hate to harp on but it all goes back to Foster who should not be there. You have to ruthless and get rid of some of the dead wood. On this choke we do not have a chance next year in France.
Of we do well in France maybe we look back to this game as a marker....
Fuck I hope U are wright. Cannot C us beating Ireland or France at the moment.
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@LagerLout said in All Blacks v England:
Ref was fine. BB, honestly where was he all game, he's past it. Whitelock also can't pull 80 minutes. Brodie simply wasn't fit. Why we kept both locks on is beyond me, it was obvious they were gassed. Although some might think that's a choke, I think the gold star goes to England for just putting it out. Pathetic. Who dares wins? Honestly, embarrassing. I'm actually shocked England cut us to bits like that out wide, goes to show we've still got a very long way to go. A draw with England is a loss in my book, but in this day and age I'm sure NZRFU won't see it like that.
The ref wasn't fine. Didn't favour either team, but the calls were so unpredictable both teams suffered.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v England:
@LagerLout said in All Blacks v England:
Ref was fine. BB, honestly where was he all game, he's past it. Whitelock also can't pull 80 minutes. Brodie simply wasn't fit. Why we kept both locks on is beyond me, it was obvious they were gassed. Although some might think that's a choke, I think the gold star goes to England for just putting it out. Pathetic. Who dares wins? Honestly, embarrassing. I'm actually shocked England cut us to bits like that out wide, goes to show we've still got a very long way to go. A draw with England is a loss in my book, but in this day and age I'm sure NZRFU won't see it like that.
The ref wasn't fine. Didn't favour either team, but the calls were so unpredictable both teams suffered.
Are you the same guy that's the only one backing the same ref's decision to overturn a non try? Unpredictable. Understood
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@canefan said in All Blacks v England:
@mencey said in All Blacks v England:
@LagerLout said in All Blacks v England:
Ref was fine. BB, honestly where was he all game, he's past it. Whitelock also can't pull 80 minutes. Brodie simply wasn't fit. Why we kept both locks on is beyond me, it was obvious they were gassed. Although some might think that's a choke, I think the gold star goes to England for just putting it out. Pathetic. Who dares wins? Honestly, embarrassing. I'm actually shocked England cut us to bits like that out wide, goes to show we've still got a very long way to go. A draw with England is a loss in my book, but in this day and age I'm sure NZRFU won't see it like that.
Spot on. Some of these players have to give way for younger ones. Hate to harp on but it all goes back to Foster who should not be there. You have to ruthless and get rid of some of the dead wood. On this choke we do not have a chance next year in France.
Of we do well in France maybe we look back to this game as a marker....
Fuck I hope U are wright. Cannot C us beating Ireland or France at the moment.
@mencey said in All Blacks v England:
@canefan said in All Blacks v England:
@mencey said in All Blacks v England:
@LagerLout said in All Blacks v England:
Ref was fine. BB, honestly where was he all game, he's past it. Whitelock also can't pull 80 minutes. Brodie simply wasn't fit. Why we kept both locks on is beyond me, it was obvious they were gassed. Although some might think that's a choke, I think the gold star goes to England for just putting it out. Pathetic. Who dares wins? Honestly, embarrassing. I'm actually shocked England cut us to bits like that out wide, goes to show we've still got a very long way to go. A draw with England is a loss in my book, but in this day and age I'm sure NZRFU won't see it like that.
Spot on. Some of these players have to give way for younger ones. Hate to harp on but it all goes back to Foster who should not be there. You have to ruthless and get rid of some of the dead wood. On this choke we do not have a chance next year in France.
Of we do well in France maybe we look back to this game as a marker....
Fuck I hope U are wright. Cannot C us beating Ireland or France at the moment.
Both are beatable. France could have lost to both South Africa and Australia (and probably should have).
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@sparky said in All Blacks v England:
@Bones Would we ever, ever celebrate a draw?
Come back to me in ten years. Unless you can think of a team we've got the same record against as England have against us that we've been 3 tries down on and miraculously managed a draw in the last ten?
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@mencey said in All Blacks v England:
@canefan said in All Blacks v England:
@mencey said in All Blacks v England:
@LagerLout said in All Blacks v England:
Ref was fine. BB, honestly where was he all game, he's past it. Whitelock also can't pull 80 minutes. Brodie simply wasn't fit. Why we kept both locks on is beyond me, it was obvious they were gassed. Although some might think that's a choke, I think the gold star goes to England for just putting it out. Pathetic. Who dares wins? Honestly, embarrassing. I'm actually shocked England cut us to bits like that out wide, goes to show we've still got a very long way to go. A draw with England is a loss in my book, but in this day and age I'm sure NZRFU won't see it like that.
Spot on. Some of these players have to give way for younger ones. Hate to harp on but it all goes back to Foster who should not be there. You have to ruthless and get rid of some of the dead wood. On this choke we do not have a chance next year in France.
Of we do well in France maybe we look back to this game as a marker....
Fuck I hope U are wright. Cannot C us beating Ireland or France at the moment.
Both are beatable. France could have lost to both South Africa and Australia (and probably should have).
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v England:
@LagerLout said in All Blacks v England:
Ref was fine. BB, honestly where was he all game, he's past it. Whitelock also can't pull 80 minutes. Brodie simply wasn't fit. Why we kept both locks on is beyond me, it was obvious they were gassed. Although some might think that's a choke, I think the gold star goes to England for just putting it out. Pathetic. Who dares wins? Honestly, embarrassing. I'm actually shocked England cut us to bits like that out wide, goes to show we've still got a very long way to go. A draw with England is a loss in my book, but in this day and age I'm sure NZRFU won't see it like that.
The ref wasn't fine. Didn't favour either team, but the calls were so unpredictable both teams suffered.
Are you the same guy that's the only one backing the same ref's decision to overturn a non try? Unpredictable. Understood
@Bones said in All Blacks v England:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v England:
@LagerLout said in All Blacks v England:
Ref was fine. BB, honestly where was he all game, he's past it. Whitelock also can't pull 80 minutes. Brodie simply wasn't fit. Why we kept both locks on is beyond me, it was obvious they were gassed. Although some might think that's a choke, I think the gold star goes to England for just putting it out. Pathetic. Who dares wins? Honestly, embarrassing. I'm actually shocked England cut us to bits like that out wide, goes to show we've still got a very long way to go. A draw with England is a loss in my book, but in this day and age I'm sure NZRFU won't see it like that.
The ref wasn't fine. Didn't favour either team, but the calls were so unpredictable both teams suffered.
Are you the same guy that's the only one backing the same ref's decision to overturn a non try? Unpredictable. Understood
No. Not the same guy at all. Clearly a different person.
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I think this AB team has shown they can beat anyone on a given day but reasonable to say you would not have confidence that they can win three tough tests in a row.
@DMX said in All Blacks v England:
I think this AB team has shown they can beat anyone on a given day but reasonable to say you would not have confidence that they can win three tough tests in a row.
Yeah, and we are on the tough side of the draw. England have a huge chance at the World Cup.
