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FIFA World Cup 2022

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  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

    https://e0.365dm.com/22/12/1600x900/skysports-kaoru-mitoma-japan_5984088.jpg?20221201211750

    i would have said that was a mile out, apparently the whole sphere of the ball needs to cross the line, not just at ground level though....

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    @Kiwiwomble said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

    https://e0.365dm.com/22/12/1600x900/skysports-kaoru-mitoma-japan_5984088.jpg?20221201211750

    i would have said that was a mile out, apparently the whole sphere of the ball needs to cross the line, not just at ground level though....

    That one frame makes a mockery of the current outcome.

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    • boobooB booboo

      @Kiwiwomble said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

      @Crucial or how few people knew the rule, that does seem a bit ridiculous though

      Who didn't know the rule?

      In soccer the line is in.

      It's just those who want the rule to be wrong.

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      @booboo said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

      @Kiwiwomble said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

      @Crucial or how few people knew the rule, that does seem a bit ridiculous though

      Who didn't know the rule?

      In soccer the line is in.

      It's just those who want the rule to be wrong.

      I sort of didn’t know the rule. I knew the whole ball had to be out but I thought that meant the part in physical contact with the grass and not the sphere of the ball. I doubt I’m only the person who didn’t have it all clearly worked out.

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      • antipodeanA antipodean

        @Kiwiwomble said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

        https://e0.365dm.com/22/12/1600x900/skysports-kaoru-mitoma-japan_5984088.jpg?20221201211750

        i would have said that was a mile out, apparently the whole sphere of the ball needs to cross the line, not just at ground level though....

        That one frame makes a mockery of the current outcome.

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        @antipodean said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

        @Kiwiwomble said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

        https://e0.365dm.com/22/12/1600x900/skysports-kaoru-mitoma-japan_5984088.jpg?20221201211750

        i would have said that was a mile out, apparently the whole sphere of the ball needs to cross the line, not just at ground level though....

        That one frame makes a mockery of the current outcome.

        It's a poor angle. There's a reason they do goal line checks from above

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        • canefanC canefan

          @antipodean said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

          @Kiwiwomble said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

          https://e0.365dm.com/22/12/1600x900/skysports-kaoru-mitoma-japan_5984088.jpg?20221201211750

          i would have said that was a mile out, apparently the whole sphere of the ball needs to cross the line, not just at ground level though....

          That one frame makes a mockery of the current outcome.

          It's a poor angle. There's a reason they do goal line checks from above

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          @canefan said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

          @antipodean said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

          @Kiwiwomble said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

          https://e0.365dm.com/22/12/1600x900/skysports-kaoru-mitoma-japan_5984088.jpg?20221201211750

          i would have said that was a mile out, apparently the whole sphere of the ball needs to cross the line, not just at ground level though....

          That one frame makes a mockery of the current outcome.

          It's a poor angle. There's a reason they do goal line checks from above

          I'm aware of the rule. The issue is the dependency on finding a camera angle that is inconclusive to rule out every other angle showing a clear separation.

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          • antipodeanA antipodean

            @canefan said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

            @antipodean said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

            @Kiwiwomble said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

            https://e0.365dm.com/22/12/1600x900/skysports-kaoru-mitoma-japan_5984088.jpg?20221201211750

            i would have said that was a mile out, apparently the whole sphere of the ball needs to cross the line, not just at ground level though....

            That one frame makes a mockery of the current outcome.

            It's a poor angle. There's a reason they do goal line checks from above

            I'm aware of the rule. The issue is the dependency on finding a camera angle that is inconclusive to rule out every other angle showing a clear separation.

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            @antipodean said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

            @canefan said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

            @antipodean said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

            @Kiwiwomble said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

            https://e0.365dm.com/22/12/1600x900/skysports-kaoru-mitoma-japan_5984088.jpg?20221201211750

            i would have said that was a mile out, apparently the whole sphere of the ball needs to cross the line, not just at ground level though....

            That one frame makes a mockery of the current outcome.

            It's a poor angle. There's a reason they do goal line checks from above

            I'm aware of the rule. The issue is the dependency on finding a camera angle that is inconclusive to rule out every other angle showing a clear separation.

            I assume hawkeye is automated, as opposed to VAR or TMO. Perhaps they should try to program a computer to do it so no one can argue bias

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              Fantastic second half drama in both of the early matches

              Good on S Korea for beating Portugal and qualifying

              Great skills in the second goal

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                Love me a Serbia vs Swiss fixture. Pure grudge match between the Serbs and the countries they raped and pillaged. Not least Kosovo with Xaqiri and Xhaka

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                  Well I didn’t think there would be as much drama as the previous night, but that Pool H finish did provide it. Sth Korea played excellent but they were still a chance of being knocked out in the 94th minute of the Uruguay and Ghana match when Uruguay were hot on attack.

                  Pool G, Brazil are safe no matter what, but all of the other 3 can still make it or get knocked out depending on results.

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                    Nip & tuck and jockeying for 2nd place

                    Serbia looking the most likely at this stage

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                    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                      Nip & tuck and jockeying for 2nd place

                      Serbia looking the most likely at this stage

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                      @MiketheSnow said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                      Nip & tuck and jockeying for 2nd place

                      Serbia looking the most likely at this stage

                      Quality defending is proving optional here. The second Serbian goal was shocking from Switzerland.

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                        Now all square

                        And Cameroon should be going in for oranges 1 up

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                          The most blatant dive from the Serbian striker. How he doesn’t see yellow I don’t know.

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                          • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                            The most blatant dive from the Serbian striker. How he doesn’t see yellow I don’t know.

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                            @Billy-Tell said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                            The most blatant dive from the Serbian striker. How he doesn’t see yellow I don’t know.

                            Because football

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                                Cameroon gets a famous win over Brazil B from a goal by the captain, who then gets sent off for a second bookable offence (taking his shirt off in celebration).

                                Happy to see Switzerland prevail over Serbia.

                                So no team won all 3 group stage matches. A first for a while.

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                                • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                  Love me a Serbia vs Swiss fixture. Pure grudge match between the Serbs and the countries they raped and pillaged. Not least Kosovo with Xaqiri and Xhaka

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                                  @Billy-Tell said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                  Love me a Serbia vs Swiss fixture. Pure grudge match between the Serbs and the countries they raped and pillaged. Not least Kosovo with Xaqiri and Xhaka

                                  Bit of feeling in stoppage time.

                                  Old Mate from your mob going to be in trouble for contact with the head?

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                                    That South Korea goal was quite bizarre. There are 6 minutes of stoppage time left and yet every Korean player is back for a defensive corner - I was shouting at the TV, keep a couple up field. Anyway it is cleared to Son who has no team-mate anywhere near him and is surrounded by 7 or so Portugal players. Hwang of Wolves sprints box to box in legendary fashion, Son nutmegs a defender to find him and a fantastic finish.

                                    Lukaku had a higher xG (expected goals) in the 2nd half v Croatia than Morocco for the whole group stage.

                                    On the ball is in or out debate - I learnt it when I did a ref's course many years ago. The issue for me is that like close offsides, it is impossible for the naked eye to adjudicate - hence why the ball is often given out as soon as grass is seen between ball and line.

                                    On Japan. They did virtually nothing except play a low block for 90 minutes out of 100. For the 10 minutes after half-time they pressed with the whole team and Spain were dumb enough to try to play out from the back with a keeper who doesn't have the skills. Got their 2 goals and sat back again.

                                    From a football point of view, I'm sad the Germans are out as they are great to watch. Musiala is a fantastic talent but the whole team is a defensive liability including Neuer. I'm not all that thrilled to watch 2 hours of a team playing 10 at the back and the other team trying to break them down.

                                    Netherlands v USA. Can see this one going to extra time unless Gakpo can keep up his goal a game thing.
                                    Argentina v Australia. Argies should be comfortable.
                                    France v Poland. Poland are awful, France should stroll this with some magic from their front 4.
                                    England v Senegal. Senegal very dogged but England should have enough.
                                    Japan v Croatia. Japan will fancy this but Croatia are canny. Extra time
                                    Brazil v Korea Republic. Wonder if Brazil will pick both Martinelli and Vinicius as they are their best 2 wide players and the 2 for the right (Raphinha & Antony) are show ponies. 0-0 after 90 wouldn't surprise me.
                                    Morocco v Spain. Fancy Morocco for this one.
                                    Portugal v Switzerland. Another extra time I reckon.

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                                    • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                                      That South Korea goal was quite bizarre. There are 6 minutes of stoppage time left and yet every Korean player is back for a defensive corner - I was shouting at the TV, keep a couple up field. Anyway it is cleared to Son who has no team-mate anywhere near him and is surrounded by 7 or so Portugal players. Hwang of Wolves sprints box to box in legendary fashion, Son nutmegs a defender to find him and a fantastic finish.

                                      Lukaku had a higher xG (expected goals) in the 2nd half v Croatia than Morocco for the whole group stage.

                                      On the ball is in or out debate - I learnt it when I did a ref's course many years ago. The issue for me is that like close offsides, it is impossible for the naked eye to adjudicate - hence why the ball is often given out as soon as grass is seen between ball and line.

                                      On Japan. They did virtually nothing except play a low block for 90 minutes out of 100. For the 10 minutes after half-time they pressed with the whole team and Spain were dumb enough to try to play out from the back with a keeper who doesn't have the skills. Got their 2 goals and sat back again.

                                      From a football point of view, I'm sad the Germans are out as they are great to watch. Musiala is a fantastic talent but the whole team is a defensive liability including Neuer. I'm not all that thrilled to watch 2 hours of a team playing 10 at the back and the other team trying to break them down.

                                      Netherlands v USA. Can see this one going to extra time unless Gakpo can keep up his goal a game thing.
                                      Argentina v Australia. Argies should be comfortable.
                                      France v Poland. Poland are awful, France should stroll this with some magic from their front 4.
                                      England v Senegal. Senegal very dogged but England should have enough.
                                      Japan v Croatia. Japan will fancy this but Croatia are canny. Extra time
                                      Brazil v Korea Republic. Wonder if Brazil will pick both Martinelli and Vinicius as they are their best 2 wide players and the 2 for the right (Raphinha & Antony) are show ponies. 0-0 after 90 wouldn't surprise me.
                                      Morocco v Spain. Fancy Morocco for this one.
                                      Portugal v Switzerland. Another extra time I reckon.

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                                      @KiwiPie front page worthy. So I did.

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                                      • boobooB booboo

                                        @KiwiPie front page worthy. So I did.

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                                        @booboo said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                        @KiwiPie front page worthy. So I did.

                                        Well, I tried to. Hasn't showed up there yet.

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                                        • boobooB booboo

                                          @booboo said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                          @KiwiPie front page worthy. So I did.

                                          Well, I tried to. Hasn't showed up there yet.

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                                          @booboo said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                          @booboo said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                          @KiwiPie front page worthy. So I did.

                                          Well, I tried to. Hasn't showed up there yet.

                                          And when you finally figure out how to do it, I’m picking you’ll do it twice 😏

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