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FIFA World Cup 2022

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  • RapidoR Offline
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    Although, not just rugby fans ....

    11m ago
    20.03 GMT
    A bit of a brouhaha in the ITV studio. Gary Neville, Roy Keane and Ian Wright all argue that the penalty shouldn’t have been awarded. Their argument being: where could the keeper go? Peter Walton explains that it was a foul because the keeper didn’t make contact with the ball, therefore his positioning led to an obstruction. Had he played the ball, that would be a different matter. The old pros aren’t having it, and continue to rail at Walton, but the former referee stands his ground. In summary: them’s the laws.

    48 min: Not all the ITV pundits are in lockstep about the penalty award, by the way. On co-comms, both Ally McCoist and Lee Dixon get behind the referee’s decision. Association football: a range of opinions are available.

    From The Guardian MBM.
    https://www.theguardian.com/football/live/2022/dec/13/argentina-v-croatia-world-cup-2022-semi-final-live-score-updates?filterKeyEvents=false&page=with:block-6398d3288f0834f3c05787e4#block-6398d3288f0834f3c05787e4

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    • canefanC Offline
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      Croatia creating half chances but Argentina seem to be getting to the 50/50 balls

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      • Billy TellB Offline
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        Messi is really doing a DC 2015 at this World Cup. I dont really like Argentina but Messi deserves a medal.

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        • BovidaeB Offline
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          Messi magic.

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          • KiwiPieK Offline
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            On the penalty and the question "where could the keeper go to?", well if he comes out and doesn't get to the ball, then he's in trouble whether is dinked over or dribbled around. And it doesn't matter that Alvarez would not have got to the ball - same as for England's 2nd penalty. VAR won't overturn as it wasn't an obvious error.

            The 3rd goal was nicely executed although Gvardiol didn't cover himself in glory. I'd like France to get through to play Argentina as that is the best chance for an exciting final.

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            • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

              On the penalty and the question "where could the keeper go to?", well if he comes out and doesn't get to the ball, then he's in trouble whether is dinked over or dribbled around. And it doesn't matter that Alvarez would not have got to the ball - same as for England's 2nd penalty. VAR won't overturn as it wasn't an obvious error.

              The 3rd goal was nicely executed although Gvardiol didn't cover himself in glory. I'd like France to get through to play Argentina as that is the best chance for an exciting final.

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              @KiwiPie as long as France win it. Not a fan of Argentina.

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              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                @KiwiPie as long as France win it. Not a fan of Argentina.

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                @ACT-Crusader said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                @KiwiPie as long as France win it. Not a fan of Argentina.

                boring. i don't like Argentina but i wouldn't mind seeing Messi win it

                of course if they are playing Morocco...

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                • RapidoR Offline
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                  #708

                  Argentina have never lost a WC semi, still.

                  If they make the top 4, they make the final. 6th time.

                  (2 out of 5 record in the finals, at this stage)

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                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                    @KiwiPie as long as France win it. Not a fan of Argentina.

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                    @ACT-Crusader said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                    @KiwiPie as long as France win it. Not a fan of Argentina.

                    well I picked France from the outset and have not being let down yet, it gets harder from here of course, but as a long time Messi fan who has had a few Camp Nou visits over the years... I could accept an Argentina win

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                    • bayimportsB bayimports

                      @ACT-Crusader said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                      @KiwiPie as long as France win it. Not a fan of Argentina.

                      well I picked France from the outset and have not being let down yet, it gets harder from here of course, but as a long time Messi fan who has had a few Camp Nou visits over the years... I could accept an Argentina win

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                      @bayimports said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                      well I picked France from the outset

                      wow. shit. hot take....

                      way to really go out on a limb.

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        @bayimports said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                        well I picked France from the outset

                        wow. shit. hot take....

                        way to really go out on a limb.

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                        @mariner4life said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                        @bayimports said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                        well I picked France from the outset

                        wow. shit. hot take....

                        way to really go out on a limb.

                        back to back isnt easy..plus you never see a random team winning this either..so unless Morocco does the unthinkable I doubt it will happen either

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                        • BovidaeB Offline
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                          If Argentina do win it will settle the modern-day GOAT debate and the Ronaldo fan bois will go into meltdown. But if Argentina lose (again)...

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                          • BovidaeB Bovidae

                            If Argentina do win it will settle the modern-day GOAT debate and the Ronaldo fan bois will go into meltdown. But if Argentina lose (again)...

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                            @Bovidae i can't see them beating France without a Messi masterclass. France are big and fast and skillful.

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                              Looking at wikipedia, 14 of the 26 in the Morocco squad are diaspora born.

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                                @Bovidae i can't see them beating France without a Messi masterclass. France are big and fast and skillful.

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                                @mariner4life said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                @Bovidae i can't see them beating France without a Messi masterclass. France are big and fast and skillful.

                                I'm still waiting for a team to get at the Argentinean defenders, but they seem to be doing enough so far.

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                                  @Bovidae i can't see them beating France without a Messi masterclass. France are big and fast and skillful.

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                                  @mariner4life A little concerned about their midfield though. Pretty much dominated by England but size and speed are good attributes and the ability to finish.

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                                    @mariner4life A little concerned about their midfield though. Pretty much dominated by England but size and speed are good attributes and the ability to finish.

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                                    @broughie said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                    @mariner4life A little concerned about their midfield though. Pretty much dominated by England but size and speed are good attributes and the ability to finish.

                                    But England are actually good. I’d say this England team would beat Croatia, Morocco, Portugal, Spain, Netherlands.

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                                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                      @broughie said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                      @mariner4life A little concerned about their midfield though. Pretty much dominated by England but size and speed are good attributes and the ability to finish.

                                      But England are actually good. I’d say this England team would beat Croatia, Morocco, Portugal, Spain, Netherlands.

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                                      @ACT-Crusader or they can just be England and not live up to expectations. I think the US midfield was better than England. But agree they dominated the French mid.

                                      @ACT-Crusader said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                      @broughie said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                      @mariner4life A little concerned about their midfield though. Pretty much dominated by England but size and speed are good attributes and the ability to finish.

                                      But England are actually good. I’d say this England team would beat Croatia, Morocco, Portugal, Spain, Netherlands.

                                      @ACT-Crusader or they can just be England and not live up to expectations. I think the US midfield was better than England. But agree they dominated the French mid.

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                                        I thought that Griezmann was the most influential midfielder in the England-France game. I expect he will do the same against Morocco.

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                                        • broughieB broughie

                                          @ACT-Crusader or they can just be England and not live up to expectations. I think the US midfield was better than England. But agree they dominated the French mid.

                                          @ACT-Crusader said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                          @broughie said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                          @mariner4life A little concerned about their midfield though. Pretty much dominated by England but size and speed are good attributes and the ability to finish.

                                          But England are actually good. I’d say this England team would beat Croatia, Morocco, Portugal, Spain, Netherlands.

                                          @ACT-Crusader or they can just be England and not live up to expectations. I think the US midfield was better than England. But agree they dominated the French mid.

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                                          @broughie said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                          @ACT-Crusader or they can just be England and not live up to expectations. I think the US midfield was better than England. But agree they dominated the French mid.

                                          @ACT-Crusader said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                          @broughie said in FIFA World Cup 2022:

                                          @mariner4life A little concerned about their midfield though. Pretty much dominated by England but size and speed are good attributes and the ability to finish.

                                          But England are actually good. I’d say this England team would beat Croatia, Morocco, Portugal, Spain, Netherlands.

                                          @ACT-Crusader or they can just be England and not live up to expectations. I think the US midfield was better than England. But agree they dominated the French mid.

                                          But can they do the business when it counts? Their problems are the same as my club team's problems, they don't seem to be able to identify and nurture a ball playing CAM, someone like Luka Modric who knits everything together and creates chances for the rest of the team. Kane drops back and does it about as well as any of them, only trouble is he is generally the best finisher as well

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