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2023 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    Second game between Hawke's Bay XV and Manawatū Evergreens:

    Wednesday, 17 May 2023
    Kick-off 7.05pm
    Hawkes Bay Rugby Union, 3 Orotu Drive, Napier.

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      Can you post the lineups on here if/when you locate them thanks?

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        Can you post the lineups on here if/when you locate them thanks?

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        @Higgins Not holding my breath that the HBRU will post one. They didn't for the first game.

        As written in this article, it will be a mix of mainly Academy players and other club rugby players. There are very few Magpies that are not playing SR or MLR.

        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/first-magpies-game-for-new-head-coach-brock-james/B4AGXCC57VFNXOALHEYO2VERWY/

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          The Tui have a new head coach: last year's assistant coach Sione Cherrington-Kite. He coached Hastings R&S when they won the Maddison Trophy in 2020.

          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/news/new-coach-for-hawkes-bay-tui-rugby-team/3LGJ3V6I4JGHJKIBILGWNIRIOM/

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            Halftime HB 24 Manawatu 0

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              13 changes to HB team for 2nd half.
              Manawatu look like they’ve changed just about their entire team as well.
              First half Tim Farrell went off injured after 5 minutes and Kienan Higgins after 10.

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                Manawatu won second half 24-17.

                Magpie reps that played - Paoraian Manuel-Harman, Frank Lochore, Josh Gimblett, Kienan Higgins, Tim Farrell, Sam Smith. Josh Kaifa was there but didn't play. Tiaki Fabish was on the sideline, just returned from Spain.
                Hunter Morrison, Cooper Flanders and Tom Allen all played and now head off to the NZU20 camp.

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                  Manawatu won second half 24-17.

                  Magpie reps that played - Paoraian Manuel-Harman, Frank Lochore, Josh Gimblett, Kienan Higgins, Tim Farrell, Sam Smith. Josh Kaifa was there but didn't play. Tiaki Fabish was on the sideline, just returned from Spain.
                  Hunter Morrison, Cooper Flanders and Tom Allen all played and now head off to the NZU20 camp.

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                  #44

                  @Number-10 Thanks for the updates!

                  So we scored all 24 points in the first half and nothing in the second? And Manawatū the opposite? Did the more experienced players play the first half, and the younsters or club players the 2nd? I know these games don't see much for the NPC, but I'd still like them to do better. Well, I guess it's better than the first game ...

                  Edit: reading @Higgins' comments, the 24 - 17 wasn't the full time score but only the score in the second half. So what was the full time score?

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                    I recorded the scoring as follows
                    3 Mins 07 - 00 HB Converted Try
                    13 Mins 12 - 00 HB Unconverted Try
                    16 Mins 19 - 00 HB Rollingish Maul Converted Try (might have been about 15 metres in from the left hand corner from memory)
                    27 Mins 26 - 00 HB Lineout Drive Converted Try in the right hand corner
                    44 Mins 31 - 00 HB Try from solo slightly left of centrefield break and feeding supporting player to score out wide on the left
                    50 Mins 31 - 07 'Poo converted try about ten metres to the right of the posts from a longish range regathered grubber
                    55 Mins 36 - 07 Can't remember what happened but a HB try over in the left hand corner
                    63 Mins 36 - 12 'Poo try from a scrambly maul play 5 metres in from right hand corner
                    70 Mins 36 -19 'Poo try after a messy lineout from a penalty 10 metres in from right hand corner
                    76 Mins 43 - 19 HB converted breakout try (albeit with a slight hint of a double movement) 5 metres in from right hand corner
                    39+ Mins 43 - 24 'Poo try five metres to the right of the posts after collecting a long range HB clearance about mid way ten metre line and 22 leftish of centre on their own side of halfway aided by some awful tackling. Somehow they managed to miss the conversion!

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                      I recorded the scoring as follows
                      3 Mins 07 - 00 HB Converted Try
                      13 Mins 12 - 00 HB Unconverted Try
                      16 Mins 19 - 00 HB Rollingish Maul Converted Try (might have been about 15 metres in from the left hand corner from memory)
                      27 Mins 26 - 00 HB Lineout Drive Converted Try in the right hand corner
                      44 Mins 31 - 00 HB Try from solo slightly left of centrefield break and feeding supporting player to score out wide on the left
                      50 Mins 31 - 07 'Poo converted try about ten metres to the right of the posts from a longish range regathered grubber
                      55 Mins 36 - 07 Can't remember what happened but a HB try over in the left hand corner
                      63 Mins 36 - 12 'Poo try from a scrambly maul play 5 metres in from right hand corner
                      70 Mins 36 -19 'Poo try after a messy lineout from a penalty 10 metres in from right hand corner
                      76 Mins 43 - 19 HB converted breakout try (albeit with a slight hint of a double movement) 5 metres in from right hand corner
                      39+ Mins 43 - 24 'Poo try five metres to the right of the posts after collecting a long range HB clearance about mid way ten metre line and 22 leftish of centre on their own side of halfway aided by some awful tackling. Somehow they managed to miss the conversion!

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                      @Higgins Awesome, thanks!

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                        I recorded the scoring as follows
                        3 Mins 07 - 00 HB Converted Try
                        13 Mins 12 - 00 HB Unconverted Try
                        16 Mins 19 - 00 HB Rollingish Maul Converted Try (might have been about 15 metres in from the left hand corner from memory)
                        27 Mins 26 - 00 HB Lineout Drive Converted Try in the right hand corner
                        44 Mins 31 - 00 HB Try from solo slightly left of centrefield break and feeding supporting player to score out wide on the left
                        50 Mins 31 - 07 'Poo converted try about ten metres to the right of the posts from a longish range regathered grubber
                        55 Mins 36 - 07 Can't remember what happened but a HB try over in the left hand corner
                        63 Mins 36 - 12 'Poo try from a scrambly maul play 5 metres in from right hand corner
                        70 Mins 36 -19 'Poo try after a messy lineout from a penalty 10 metres in from right hand corner
                        76 Mins 43 - 19 HB converted breakout try (albeit with a slight hint of a double movement) 5 metres in from right hand corner
                        39+ Mins 43 - 24 'Poo try five metres to the right of the posts after collecting a long range HB clearance about mid way ten metre line and 22 leftish of centre on their own side of halfway aided by some awful tackling. Somehow they managed to miss the conversion!

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                        @Higgins said in 2023 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby:

                        I recorded the scoring as follows
                        3 Mins 07 - 00 HB Converted Try
                        13 Mins 12 - 00 HB Unconverted Try
                        16 Mins 19 - 00 HB Rollingish Maul Converted Try (might have been about 15 metres in from the left hand corner from memory)
                        27 Mins 26 - 00 HB Lineout Drive Converted Try in the right hand corner
                        44 Mins 31 - 00 HB Try from solo slightly left of centrefield break and feeding supporting player to score out wide on the left
                        50 Mins 31 - 07 'Poo converted try about ten metres to the right of the posts from a longish range regathered grubber
                        55 Mins 36 - 07 Can't remember what happened but a HB try over in the left hand corner
                        63 Mins 36 - 12 'Poo try from a scrambly maul play 5 metres in from right hand corner
                        70 Mins 36 -19 'Poo try after a messy lineout from a penalty 10 metres in from right hand corner
                        76 Mins 43 - 19 HB converted breakout try (albeit with a slight hint of a double movement) 5 metres in from right hand corner
                        39+ Mins 43 - 24 'Poo try five metres to the right of the posts after collecting a long range HB clearance about mid way ten metre line and 22 leftish of centre on their own side of halfway aided by some awful tackling. Somehow they managed to miss the conversion!

                        Ah, was it 26-0 at halftime? I thought it was 24-0.

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                          Why is it that the Manawatū Standard has written a little match report, but our local media ... nothing? Even the HBRU couldn't be bothered informing us about this game, before or after it happened.

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-standard/300882803/hawkes-bay-saracens-too-strong-for-manawat-evergreens-in-return-match

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                            Why is it that the Manawatū Standard has written a little match report, but our local media ... nothing? Even the HBRU couldn't be bothered informing us about this game, before or after it happened.

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/manawatu-standard/300882803/hawkes-bay-saracens-too-strong-for-manawat-evergreens-in-return-match

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                            @Stargazer said in 2023 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby:

                            but our local media ... nothing?

                            They only care about Napier Boys rugby ... 😉

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                              @Stargazer said in 2023 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby:

                              but our local media ... nothing?

                              They only care about Napier Boys rugby ... 😉

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                              @Nepia LOL, you keep saying that and I've never seen any proof of that haha.

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                                @Nepia LOL, you keep saying that and I've never seen any proof of that haha.

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                                @Stargazer said in 2023 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby:

                                @Nepia LOL, you keep saying that and I've never seen any proof of that haha.

                                I can't help it if you've had your eyes closed.

                                IIRC I posted some links to HB Today articles that were Napier Boys focussed during the years Hastings Boys were winning. I'm obviously too lazy to search for them now.

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                                  Only just saw this. Former Tui winger Cortez Te Pou has signed her first NRLW contract with the Dragons.

                                  https://twitter.com/sowwowofficial6/status/1640938310226018310

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                                    I have been keeping an eye on Tui players playing club rugby, because I noticed some names not appearing on team sheets. I haven't been able to find where Imij Hawkins (Zarn and Bailyn's cousin) has gone. More disturbing is that I've seen the name of super talented Harmony Kautai on the team sheets of Poneke in Wellington. Poached or moved there to be noticed for SR Aupiki? Or will she return? The last team sheet she appeared on are from April, so I'm still a bit hopeful that she'll return to the Bay and the Tui.

                                    I also hope that Teilah Ferguson doesn't do the opposite, like last year. Playing for Tech, then moving to Wellington for FPC. I really hope she stays this time and plays for the Tui again.

                                    Also, the youth competition Amelia Pasikala was playing league in in Oz has finished. She's about to return home, but I'm not sure it's just for a holiday and family visit, or whether she'll play club rugby and FPC for us again. I really hope the latter! From all the reports and clips that I've seen, she's made a huge impression in league and there's a good chance she'll be snapped up by a NRLW team; if not this year, maybe next year.

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                                      I have been keeping an eye on Tui players playing club rugby, because I noticed some names not appearing on team sheets. I haven't been able to find where Imij Hawkins (Zarn and Bailyn's cousin) has gone. More disturbing is that I've seen the name of super talented Harmony Kautai on the team sheets of Poneke in Wellington. Poached or moved there to be noticed for SR Aupiki? Or will she return? The last team sheet she appeared on are from April, so I'm still a bit hopeful that she'll return to the Bay and the Tui.

                                      I also hope that Teilah Ferguson doesn't do the opposite, like last year. Playing for Tech, then moving to Wellington for FPC. I really hope she stays this time and plays for the Tui again.

                                      Also, the youth competition Amelia Pasikala was playing league in in Oz has finished. She's about to return home, but I'm not sure it's just for a holiday and family visit, or whether she'll play club rugby and FPC for us again. I really hope the latter! From all the reports and clips that I've seen, she's made a huge impression in league and there's a good chance she'll be snapped up by a NRLW team; if not this year, maybe next year.

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                                      @Stargazer Whatever happened to my favourite player in the number 26 jersey from a couple of seasons ago? Think she might have been in the Sth Island Super Rugby team squad in 2022 but seems to have disappeared from there.

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                                        @Stargazer Whatever happened to my favourite player in the number 26 jersey from a couple of seasons ago? Think she might have been in the Sth Island Super Rugby team squad in 2022 but seems to have disappeared from there.

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                                        @Higgins Do you mean big prop Ashley (Moomooga) Palu? She's back playing club rugby for Hastings, so hopefully she'll stay and play for the Tui again (and not go back to Canterbury). She also played for Matatū, this year.

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                                          @Higgins Do you mean big prop Ashley (Moomooga) Palu? She's back playing club rugby for Hastings, so hopefully she'll stay and play for the Tui again (and not go back to Canterbury). She also played for Matatū, this year.

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                                          @Stargazer Yeah, that's her. Apart from watching a lot of the Championship Final won by my ladies against Clive I had not seen any of the ladies rugby (the kick of times/venues not fitting in with my schedule) so was not aware of my favourite player's re-appearance.

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