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  • CrucialC Offline
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    Don’t forget our own whanau. Kevin Kaukau was NZs Rock god lead.

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    @MN5 said in Guitarists:

    he Beatle ( seriously, they wrote what people consider great pop songs, but NONE of them were musical prodigies )

    Lot's of guitarists disagree with you about McCartney's bass playing and just toi really yank your chain, he is also rated by many as a lead guitarist. He was only ever the bass player for the Beatles because no one else would do it but played on things like Helter Skelter so has some chops.

    Not that I would have him in my top 10 but he's better than you give him credit for.

    Another worthy of a mention (if he hasn't already been name checked) is Robert Fripp. Before he went all prog with ELP and then Eno he knocked out some bangers with King Crimson. All the more remarkable as he is tone deaf

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    @Crucial that's cringy and lyrics even worse. Did I hear "the problem is that you are tall but ...... makes me small"?

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    @broughie said in Guitarists:

    @Crucial that's cringy and lyrics even worse. Did I hear "the problem is that you are tall but ...... makes me small"?

    Classic line.

    I was posting the lead guitarist not the song.

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    @Crucial Missed that part until I showed the kids the best of Kiwi music. I could not stand any more on the first take.

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    @Crucial Doug Jerebine from 1969. A heavy Hendrix influence.

    And an iconic theme tune.

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    @Bovidae had never heard the first one. Thanks.
    The second is great but standard lead with loads of sustain and a bit of whammy.

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    @Bovidae said in Guitarists:

    A heavy Hendrix influence.

    Understatement of the week. 🙂

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    Jerebine has an interesting backstory.

    Entertainment

    Doug Jerebine: An unburied treasure - NZ Herald

    Doug Jerebine: An unburied treasure - NZ Herald

    An unburied treasure An album by talented Kiwi musician Doug Jerebine has finally been released - 43 years after he made it, writes Scott Kara.

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    @Bovidae said in Guitarists:

    @Crucial Doug Jerebine from 1969. A heavy Hendrix influence.

    And an iconic theme tune.

    Absolutely love that Renata track. It's never sounded technically difficult, but it's still a beautiful piece of music.

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    @MN5 said in Guitarists:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Guitarists:

    @Crucial said in Guitarists:

    Duck Dunn wasn’t flashy but like Kaye you can’t dispute the results.

    Yep. You don't have to be flashy to be a great musician - understatement is a great virtue. Clapton rarely over-plays.

    Carol Kaye played on 10,000 recordings and over 1.000 hit records & was amazingly inventive in song after song over a 40 year career. That she played bass on Pet Sounds and the the Mission Impossible TV theme is, I guess, all you need to know.

    I’m not sure I’d stay awake long enough to notice.

    Clapton hasn’t done anything brilliant with the guitar since the early 70s.

    Very good at stealing other peoples songs though.

    You’re right but then again you’re wrong. True he’s not done anything for ages that added to his legend status, but that is a truism that runs all through this thread. As they age their guitar god status declines with their ability to rock.

    Hendrix is a notable exception but then again he’s done fuck all for 50 odd years.

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    @Catogrande said in Guitarists:

    @MN5 said in Guitarists:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Guitarists:

    @Crucial said in Guitarists:

    Duck Dunn wasn’t flashy but like Kaye you can’t dispute the results.

    Yep. You don't have to be flashy to be a great musician - understatement is a great virtue. Clapton rarely over-plays.

    Carol Kaye played on 10,000 recordings and over 1.000 hit records & was amazingly inventive in song after song over a 40 year career. That she played bass on Pet Sounds and the the Mission Impossible TV theme is, I guess, all you need to know.

    I’m not sure I’d stay awake long enough to notice.

    Clapton hasn’t done anything brilliant with the guitar since the early 70s.

    Very good at stealing other peoples songs though.

    You’re right but then again you’re wrong. True he’s not done anything for ages that added to his legend status, but that is a truism that runs all through this thread. As they age their guitar god status declines with their ability to rock.

    Hendrix is a notable exception but then again he’s done fuck all for 50 odd years.

    Still about as lively as Clapton during that period

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    @MN5

    You are judging harshly today. Getting a bit Grinchy cos it’s nearly Christmas?

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    @Catogrande said in Guitarists:

    @MN5

    You are judging harshly today. Getting a bit Grinchy cos it’s nearly Christmas?

    No I’ve been extremely positive about others. You should see my other lists. Full of praise for some absolute legends.

    I’ve said some nice things about Eric too.

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    @MajorRage said in Guitarists:

    Been thinking about my top 10 Guitarists this morning & I struggle to make the proper distinction between Guitarists, Musician & Music. This list is completely different to what I would have put down two years ago when I bought my Gibson and started learning to play properly. First names on it prior would have been Slash / Young, but now ... not quite.

    Main reason is that I am simply not a "shredder" - it's cool when you get it, but I much prefer making / matching the melodic tones of more contemporary musicians & heavy riffing. So here is my shitty list, which is not in order.

    1. James Hetfield. As I said above, I struggle with the distinction as I know he's not the best guitarist, but he's a phenomenal player of what he does. Down picking riffs basically. Love it.
    2. David Gilmour. As MN5 says, nobody does more with less. HIs ability to make a guitar talk is unmatched by anybody
    3. Jerry Cantrell. Awesome combination of the two above but not as good as both at their particular crafts. But still, the main guy of one of my fave bands, so has to be on this list
    4. Keith Richards. The epitome of cool. I don't really get a lot of blues stuff, it's not natural to me. But the way he plays the guitar, playing short melodic riffs / licks is perhaps the guitarist that Im most inspired to be.
    5. Dave Matthews. Controversial this, but as I said it's my list. Similar to Richards, his ability to play a song without playing it, is just amazing. Saw him do a solo gig in London in 2002, still think its' one of the best things I've ever seen. All along the watchtower incredible.
    6. Slash. He's still on the list. He chooses melody over speed and it all sounds much the better for it.
    7. Frusciante. There is so much he's written / arranged that I can't play. He's just too farking good. A lot of people (mainly hipsters, honestly)will always claim the earlier RHCP stuff was better, but I don't agree. It all got a bit indulgent on Stadium Arcadium, but the Frusciante albums (Mothers Milk, BSSM, Californaition, By the Way) do define a lot of my teens / twenties.
    8. Hendrix. Because if he's not on the list it can't really be taken seriously, can it?

    Thats kind of where it ends for me. I would then tack an honourable mention on this of Page (brilliant & phenomenal, but I get bored of Led Zepp), Angus Young (best live guitarist I've seen, no question, but I think I just love the music more than I love him as a guitarist), Townshend (similar to Young).

    What is most amazing to me is that given that I'm a guitar guy, only one of the guitarists in my favourite bands of the last 20 odd years are on this list. Tool (it's their rhythm section that makes them), Foo's (great tracks, but hardly guitar genius), FNM (Gould is on bass list for sure) don't feature.

    Like MN5, I reserve the right to revisit this list and wonder what the fuck I was thinking.

    How in fucks name did I forget Lindsey Buckingham …

    That’s my number 9.

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    @MajorRage said in Guitarists:

    @MajorRage said in Guitarists:

    Been thinking about my top 10 Guitarists this morning & I struggle to make the proper distinction between Guitarists, Musician & Music. This list is completely different to what I would have put down two years ago when I bought my Gibson and started learning to play properly. First names on it prior would have been Slash / Young, but now ... not quite.

    Main reason is that I am simply not a "shredder" - it's cool when you get it, but I much prefer making / matching the melodic tones of more contemporary musicians & heavy riffing. So here is my shitty list, which is not in order.

    1. James Hetfield. As I said above, I struggle with the distinction as I know he's not the best guitarist, but he's a phenomenal player of what he does. Down picking riffs basically. Love it.
    2. David Gilmour. As MN5 says, nobody does more with less. HIs ability to make a guitar talk is unmatched by anybody
    3. Jerry Cantrell. Awesome combination of the two above but not as good as both at their particular crafts. But still, the main guy of one of my fave bands, so has to be on this list
    4. Keith Richards. The epitome of cool. I don't really get a lot of blues stuff, it's not natural to me. But the way he plays the guitar, playing short melodic riffs / licks is perhaps the guitarist that Im most inspired to be.
    5. Dave Matthews. Controversial this, but as I said it's my list. Similar to Richards, his ability to play a song without playing it, is just amazing. Saw him do a solo gig in London in 2002, still think its' one of the best things I've ever seen. All along the watchtower incredible.
    6. Slash. He's still on the list. He chooses melody over speed and it all sounds much the better for it.
    7. Frusciante. There is so much he's written / arranged that I can't play. He's just too farking good. A lot of people (mainly hipsters, honestly)will always claim the earlier RHCP stuff was better, but I don't agree. It all got a bit indulgent on Stadium Arcadium, but the Frusciante albums (Mothers Milk, BSSM, Californaition, By the Way) do define a lot of my teens / twenties.
    8. Hendrix. Because if he's not on the list it can't really be taken seriously, can it?

    Thats kind of where it ends for me. I would then tack an honourable mention on this of Page (brilliant & phenomenal, but I get bored of Led Zepp), Angus Young (best live guitarist I've seen, no question, but I think I just love the music more than I love him as a guitarist), Townshend (similar to Young).

    What is most amazing to me is that given that I'm a guitar guy, only one of the guitarists in my favourite bands of the last 20 odd years are on this list. Tool (it's their rhythm section that makes them), Foo's (great tracks, but hardly guitar genius), FNM (Gould is on bass list for sure) don't feature.

    Like MN5, I reserve the right to revisit this list and wonder what the fuck I was thinking.

    How in fucks name did I forget Lindsey Buckingham …

    That’s my number 9.

    He was the only part of Fleetwood Mac I ever liked. Really nice style.

    I’m gonna learn this over the xmas break, once I get over an acoustic guitar feeling like a toy after playing bass for so long that is !

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    @MajorRage said in Guitarists:

    @MajorRage said in Guitarists:

    Been thinking about my top 10 Guitarists this morning & I struggle to make the proper distinction between Guitarists, Musician & Music. This list is completely different to what I would have put down two years ago when I bought my Gibson and started learning to play properly. First names on it prior would have been Slash / Young, but now ... not quite.

    Main reason is that I am simply not a "shredder" - it's cool when you get it, but I much prefer making / matching the melodic tones of more contemporary musicians & heavy riffing. So here is my shitty list, which is not in order.

    1. James Hetfield. As I said above, I struggle with the distinction as I know he's not the best guitarist, but he's a phenomenal player of what he does. Down picking riffs basically. Love it.
    2. David Gilmour. As MN5 says, nobody does more with less. HIs ability to make a guitar talk is unmatched by anybody
    3. Jerry Cantrell. Awesome combination of the two above but not as good as both at their particular crafts. But still, the main guy of one of my fave bands, so has to be on this list
    4. Keith Richards. The epitome of cool. I don't really get a lot of blues stuff, it's not natural to me. But the way he plays the guitar, playing short melodic riffs / licks is perhaps the guitarist that Im most inspired to be.
    5. Dave Matthews. Controversial this, but as I said it's my list. Similar to Richards, his ability to play a song without playing it, is just amazing. Saw him do a solo gig in London in 2002, still think its' one of the best things I've ever seen. All along the watchtower incredible.
    6. Slash. He's still on the list. He chooses melody over speed and it all sounds much the better for it.
    7. Frusciante. There is so much he's written / arranged that I can't play. He's just too farking good. A lot of people (mainly hipsters, honestly)will always claim the earlier RHCP stuff was better, but I don't agree. It all got a bit indulgent on Stadium Arcadium, but the Frusciante albums (Mothers Milk, BSSM, Californaition, By the Way) do define a lot of my teens / twenties.
    8. Hendrix. Because if he's not on the list it can't really be taken seriously, can it?

    Thats kind of where it ends for me. I would then tack an honourable mention on this of Page (brilliant & phenomenal, but I get bored of Led Zepp), Angus Young (best live guitarist I've seen, no question, but I think I just love the music more than I love him as a guitarist), Townshend (similar to Young).

    What is most amazing to me is that given that I'm a guitar guy, only one of the guitarists in my favourite bands of the last 20 odd years are on this list. Tool (it's their rhythm section that makes them), Foo's (great tracks, but hardly guitar genius), FNM (Gould is on bass list for sure) don't feature.

    Like MN5, I reserve the right to revisit this list and wonder what the fuck I was thinking.

    How in fucks name did I forget Lindsey Buckingham …

    That’s my number 9.

    How in fucks name did I forget Zakk Wylde ...

    Core architect of the 90's metal lead guitarist.

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    Anyone mentioned Billy TK Snr?

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    I want to give some love to one of the most underrated guitarists in rock - Steve Rothery from Marillion. He's very much from the Gilmour camp with melodic solos.

    And from the late 1980s.

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    James Hetfield drives the best hard rock band of all time

    Kirk Hammett plays lead and shreds most of the best solos ever recorded.

    Pinnacle

    And the guy the kicked out is a fucking insane player too.

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