Wales v Ireland 6N
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Turned out to be a pretty easy day for Ireland and they get defend another match with the Raeburn Shield
https://twitter.com/RaeburnShield/status/1621903322088185856?t=QSQST6gr9bjOovINlt4Blg&s=19
Excited to see France have a go at taking it next week. The French haven't held it since 2009!
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The biggest change Gatland needs to make in his second tenure is to eradicate our slow start
We failed to capitalise on good, created opportunities because we were always chasing the game
Hawkins was excellent
The 14 pt killed us
Did Ireland get any YC? Only saw highlights
One thing can be said though
Ireland won’t win the 6N let alone the WC
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@Machpants said in Wales v Ireland 6N:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Wales v Ireland 6N:
Ireland: 15 Hugo Keenan, 14 Mack Hansen, 13 Garry Ringrose, 12 Stuart McCloskey, 11 James Lowe, 10 Johnny Sexton (c), 9 Jamison Gibson-Park, 8 Caelan Doris, 7 Josh van der Flier, 6 Peter O’Mahony, 5 James Ryan, 4 Tadhg Beirne, 3 Finlay Bealham, 2 Dan Sheehan, 1 Andrew Porter
Replacements: 16 Rob Herring, 17 Cian Healy, 18 Tom O’Toole, 19 Iain Henderson, 20 Jack Conan, 21 Conor Murray, 22 Ross Byrne, 23 Bundee Aki@Bones Ireland 1 up Scotland with 4 in their backline
Joking aside you do have to wonder how much player movement to countries not of their birth/origin has created a more level playing field in international rugby.
@Crucial said in Wales v Ireland 6N:
@Machpants said in Wales v Ireland 6N:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Wales v Ireland 6N:
Ireland: 15 Hugo Keenan, 14 Mack Hansen, 13 Garry Ringrose, 12 Stuart McCloskey, 11 James Lowe, 10 Johnny Sexton (c), 9 Jamison Gibson-Park, 8 Caelan Doris, 7 Josh van der Flier, 6 Peter O’Mahony, 5 James Ryan, 4 Tadhg Beirne, 3 Finlay Bealham, 2 Dan Sheehan, 1 Andrew Porter
Replacements: 16 Rob Herring, 17 Cian Healy, 18 Tom O’Toole, 19 Iain Henderson, 20 Jack Conan, 21 Conor Murray, 22 Ross Byrne, 23 Bundee Aki@Bones Ireland 1 up Scotland with 4 in their backline
Joking aside you do have to wonder how much player movement to countries not of their birth/origin has created a more level playing field in international rugby.
Scotland would have done just fine with someone born and bred on the left wing. I don’t think there’s much in it.
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The biggest change Gatland needs to make in his second tenure is to eradicate our slow start
We failed to capitalise on good, created opportunities because we were always chasing the game
Hawkins was excellent
The 14 pt killed us
Did Ireland get any YC? Only saw highlights
One thing can be said though
Ireland won’t win the 6N let alone the WC
@MiketheSnow said in Wales v Ireland 6N:
The biggest change Gatland needs to make in his second tenure is to eradicate our slow start
It looked like my club, who don't train together as a XV often enough. First half it is all pretty ordinary then we're warmed up and often outscore sides in the second half.
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The biggest change Gatland needs to make in his second tenure is to eradicate our slow start
We failed to capitalise on good, created opportunities because we were always chasing the game
Hawkins was excellent
The 14 pt killed us
Did Ireland get any YC? Only saw highlights
One thing can be said though
Ireland won’t win the 6N let alone the WC
@MiketheSnow said in Wales v Ireland 6N:
Did Ireland get any YC? Only saw highlights
IMHO Porter should have received one for diving on the player (Williams The Fullback) after he scored.
Ireland were on a warning late in the first half for pissing about at ruck time.
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Ireland are a good but not great side. They dominated the first half, and it was only a 70m intercept that made the scoreboard reflect that. They are methodical, relentless and patient, but they struggle to put points up.
Wales made a couple of defensive changes at half time and stopped the Irish attack dead until that soft yellow.
Wales are fucking average though. Their attack sucks because Biggar is slow of thought, they don't work hard enough off the ball, and they are committed to wide skip passes that don't draw defenders.
Garlands old men were fucking average too. AWJ, Tipuric and Faletau were liabilities, too slow of foot. They also aren't fit enough
Like the young 12 Hawkins though he's a ripper. Williams is still class too.
Learned nothing new about either side. And thr middle third of the game was fucking boring.
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Also I never ever want to hear another bullshit holier than thou comment about soccer players and diving after the 50th display of it from the world's best 10 today.
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Also I never ever want to hear another bullshit holier than thou comment about soccer players and diving after the 50th display of it from the world's best 10 today.
@mariner4life said in Wales v Ireland 6N:
Also I never ever want to hear another bullshit holier than thou comment about soccer players and diving after the 50th display of it from the world's best 10 today.
Sexton's a ballsack.
So is Porter.
Certain people like to carry on like Ireland are saints of the game but they've got some right fluffybunnies in green, so they have.
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@mariner4life said in Wales v Ireland 6N:
Also I never ever want to hear another bullshit holier than thou comment about soccer players and diving after the 50th display of it from the world's best 10 today.
Sexton's a ballsack.
So is Porter.
Certain people like to carry on like Ireland are saints of the game but they've got some right fluffybunnies in green, so they have.
@NTA said in Wales v Ireland 6N:
@mariner4life said in Wales v Ireland 6N:
Also I never ever want to hear another bullshit holier than thou comment about soccer players and diving after the 50th display of it from the world's best 10 today.
Sexton's a ballsack.
So is Porter.
Certain people like to carry on like Ireland are saints of the game but they've got some right fluffybunnies in green, so they have.
Who are those “people”?
Ireland and their fans can be the whingiest bunch of obnoxious fuckers around at the moment and Sexton sets the tone. -
@MiketheSnow said in Wales v Ireland 6N:
The biggest change Gatland needs to make in his second tenure is to eradicate our slow start
It looked like my club, who don't train together as a XV often enough. First half it is all pretty ordinary then we're warmed up and often outscore sides in the second half.
@NTA said in Wales v Ireland 6N:
@MiketheSnow said in Wales v Ireland 6N:
The biggest change Gatland needs to make in his second tenure is to eradicate our slow start
It looked like my club, who don't train together as a XV often enough. First half it is all pretty ordinary then we're warmed up and often outscore sides in the second half.
But that was almost every game under Gatland in his first shift
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Ireland are a good but not great side. They dominated the first half, and it was only a 70m intercept that made the scoreboard reflect that. They are methodical, relentless and patient, but they struggle to put points up.
Wales made a couple of defensive changes at half time and stopped the Irish attack dead until that soft yellow.
Wales are fucking average though. Their attack sucks because Biggar is slow of thought, they don't work hard enough off the ball, and they are committed to wide skip passes that don't draw defenders.
Garlands old men were fucking average too. AWJ, Tipuric and Faletau were liabilities, too slow of foot. They also aren't fit enough
Like the young 12 Hawkins though he's a ripper. Williams is still class too.
Learned nothing new about either side. And thr middle third of the game was fucking boring.
@mariner4life said in Wales v Ireland 6N:
Ireland are a good but not great side. They dominated the first half, and it was only a 70m intercept that made the scoreboard reflect that. They are methodical, relentless and patient, but they struggle to put points up.
Wales made a couple of defensive changes at half time and stopped the Irish attack dead until that soft yellow.
Wales are fucking average though. Their attack sucks because Biggar is slow of thought, they don't work hard enough off the ball, and they are committed to wide skip passes that don't draw defenders.
Garlands old men were fucking average too. AWJ, Tipuric and Faletau were liabilities, too slow of foot. They also aren't fit enough
Like the young 12 Hawkins though he's a ripper. Williams is still class too.
Learned nothing new about either side. And thr middle third of the game was fucking boring.
They are ranked Nr.1, so if they are not a great side, then who can claim to be ?
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@mariner4life said in Wales v Ireland 6N:
Also I never ever want to hear another bullshit holier than thou comment about soccer players and diving after the 50th display of it from the world's best 10 today.
Sexton's a ballsack.
So is Porter.
Certain people like to carry on like Ireland are saints of the game but they've got some right fluffybunnies in green, so they have.
@NTA said in Wales v Ireland 6N:
@mariner4life said in Wales v Ireland 6N:
Also I never ever want to hear another bullshit holier than thou comment about soccer players and diving after the 50th display of it from the world's best 10 today.
Sexton's a ballsack.
So is Porter.
Certain people like to carry on like Ireland are saints of the game but they've got some right fluffybunnies in green, so they have.
Agree with @Crucial
Only people who are carrying on like Ireland are saints of the game would most likely be Irish...
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@NTA said in Wales v Ireland 6N:
@mariner4life said in Wales v Ireland 6N:
Also I never ever want to hear another bullshit holier than thou comment about soccer players and diving after the 50th display of it from the world's best 10 today.
Sexton's a ballsack.
So is Porter.
Certain people like to carry on like Ireland are saints of the game but they've got some right fluffybunnies in green, so they have.
Agree with @Crucial
Only people who are carrying on like Ireland are saints of the game would most likely be Irish...
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The biggest change Gatland needs to make in his second tenure is to eradicate our slow start
We failed to capitalise on good, created opportunities because we were always chasing the game
Hawkins was excellent
The 14 pt killed us
Did Ireland get any YC? Only saw highlights
One thing can be said though
Ireland won’t win the 6N let alone the WC
@MiketheSnow he needs to select players in form for a start. If the Ospreys had a European cup game tomorrow Gareth Thomas & AW Jones wouldn't be starting, yet both started for Wales yesterday.
Tipuric was never going to shine against that Irish pack, we needed a proper physical presence at 6 with Jac Morgan at 7.
It probably wouldn't have affected the result yesterday but we could've been far more competitive up front. -
@NTA said in Wales v Ireland 6N:
@mariner4life said in Wales v Ireland 6N:
Also I never ever want to hear another bullshit holier than thou comment about soccer players and diving after the 50th display of it from the world's best 10 today.
Sexton's a ballsack.
So is Porter.
Certain people like to carry on like Ireland are saints of the game but they've got some right fluffybunnies in green, so they have.
Who are those “people”?
Ireland and their fans can be the whingiest bunch of obnoxious fuckers around at the moment and Sexton sets the tone.@Crucial said in Wales v Ireland 6N:
@NTA said in Wales v Ireland 6N:
@mariner4life said in Wales v Ireland 6N:
Also I never ever want to hear another bullshit holier than thou comment about soccer players and diving after the 50th display of it from the world's best 10 today.
Sexton's a ballsack.
So is Porter.
Certain people like to carry on like Ireland are saints of the game but they've got some right fluffybunnies in green, so they have.
Who are those “people”?
Ireland and their fans can be the whingiest bunch of obnoxious fuckers around at the moment and Sexton sets the tone.The same sort of thing happened with England c. 2000-2004. Fair-weather fuckwits who lost interest when the team faded and understood fuck-all about the culture and ethos of the game and thought racist chanting at HQ was OK.
That England team itself rose above that stuff - despite Woodwhinge trying to stir things up. Can't say the same about this Irish team though.
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Some fucking odd refereeing in that game. I hope the luck of the Irish runs out in the upcoming quarter final.
@antipodean said in Wales v Ireland 6N:
Some fucking odd refereeing in that game. I hope the luck of the Irish runs out in the upcoming quarter final.
It seemed only one team was being penalised for not rolling away until late in the game.
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Ireland are a good but not great side. They dominated the first half, and it was only a 70m intercept that made the scoreboard reflect that. They are methodical, relentless and patient, but they struggle to put points up.
Wales made a couple of defensive changes at half time and stopped the Irish attack dead until that soft yellow.
Wales are fucking average though. Their attack sucks because Biggar is slow of thought, they don't work hard enough off the ball, and they are committed to wide skip passes that don't draw defenders.
Garlands old men were fucking average too. AWJ, Tipuric and Faletau were liabilities, too slow of foot. They also aren't fit enough
Like the young 12 Hawkins though he's a ripper. Williams is still class too.
Learned nothing new about either side. And thr middle third of the game was fucking boring.
@mariner4life said in Wales v Ireland 6N:
Garlands old men were fucking average too. AWJ, Tipuric and Faletau were liabilities, too slow of foot. They also aren't fit enough
I'd include Owens and North as well. But are the next tier any good? The Welsh scrum is still a liability.
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@mariner4life said in Wales v Ireland 6N:
Garlands old men were fucking average too. AWJ, Tipuric and Faletau were liabilities, too slow of foot. They also aren't fit enough
I'd include Owens and North as well. But are the next tier any good? The Welsh scrum is still a liability.
@Bovidae said in Wales v Ireland 6N:
@mariner4life said in Wales v Ireland 6N:
Garlands old men were fucking average too. AWJ, Tipuric and Faletau were liabilities, too slow of foot. They also aren't fit enough
I'd include Owens and North as well. But are the next tier any good? The Welsh scrum is still a liability.
That was my point pre-game. It’s like Dad’s Army and has been for a while.
What happened development wise?
