2023 School Rugby
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I went to watch the CNI match between St Peter's Cambridge and St John's Hamilton. St Peter's played with a strong wind behind them in the 1st half but only scored a solitary try, while St John's scored twice, the second right on HT. The 2nd half was dominated by St John's who used the wind well, so played at the right end of the field, and used their lineout drive.
St Peter's 17 - 40 St John's (HT: 10-12)
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@Stargazer why did Rathkeale college join C NI with lots of travel instead of Wellington Premiership like wairarapa college did
@Winger said in 2023 School Rugby:
@Stargazer why did Rathkeale college join C NI with lots of travel instead of Wellington Premiership like wairarapa college did
Maybe because they already have two traditional games against Lindisfarne and Wanganui Col and fielding agg not too far from them.
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Results - Saturday 24 June 2023
Auckland 1A
Round 7- King's College 8 - 44 St Kentigern
- Dilworth School 7 - 54 Kelston BHS
- Tangaroa College 0 - 73 Sacred Heart College
- De La Salle College 31 - 7 Mt Albert Grammar School
- St Peter's College 20 - 5 Liston College
- St Paul's College 7 - 24 Auckland Grammar School
Harbour 1A
Round 9- Rosmini College 20 - 10 Whangarei BHS
- Manurewa HS 0 - 56 Takapuna Grammar
- Orewa College LBD - WBD Massey HS
- Rangitoto College 0 - 54 Westlake BHS
Central North Island
Round 7- Francis Douglas MC 31 - 21 Lindisfarne College
- St Peter's Cambridge 17 - 40St John's College, Hamilton
- Feilding HS 25 - 13 St Paul's Collegiate
- St John's, Hastings v Wesley College - POSTPONED
Super 8
Round 5- Hastings BHS v Rototua BHS - POSTPONED
- Napier BHS v Hamilton BHS - POSTPONED
- Tauranga BHS 32 - 14 Palmerston North BHS
- New Plymouth BHS v Gisborne BHS - POSTPONED
Wellington Premiership
Round 6- Wairarapa College 7 - 59 Scots College
- Wellington College 7 - 14 St Bernard's College
- Hutt International BS 44 - 3 Mana College
- Tawa College 6 - 38 St Pat's Town
Miles Toyota Premiership
Round 6- St Bede's College 36 - 22 Marlborough Boys College
- Shirley BHS 12 - 31 St Andrews College
Otago Schools Rugby Championship (Division 1) - part 2
Round 2- King's HS 51 - 7 South Otago HS
- Southland BHS 66 - 21 John McGlashan College
- Wakatipu HS 0 - 45 Otago BH
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Counties School rugby
1st XV:
Manurewa HS 0-56 TGS
HBHS 8-36 Pukekohe HS
St John’s Hastings Wesley College (postponed)
Pukekohe 2nd XV 14-35 Rosehill College
Hauraki Plains College 10-0 Alfriston College
Wesley College 3rd XV 19-17 Papakura HS
Tuakau/Onewhero 29-14 Waiuku College
Girls 1st XV:
Southern Cross 5-22 Manurewa HS
Mt Albert Grammar 57-0 Wesley College
Girls 10s: Finals
Rosehill College (1st) 17-12 Pukekohe HS (2nd) (Rosehill College 2023 Champions)
Papakura HS (4th) 19-31Tuakau/Onewhero (3rd)
Alfriston College - Waiuku College (Not Played) -
Mid-week fixtures: 28 - 30 June 2023
Wednesday 28 June 2023
Sports exchange
- Scots College v Lindisfarne College - 10.15am
- Francis Douglas MC v St Bernard's College - 12.00pm
Harbour 1A
Round 10
Takapuna Grammar v Rosmini College - 3.30pm
Wellington Premiership
Round 4
Mana College v Tawa College - 3.45pm (postponed game from 10 June 2023)
Thursday 29 June 2023Quad Tournament at Wellington College
- Minor Final: Nelson College v Christ's College - 12.00pm (doubles as Miles Toyota Premiership game)
- Major Final: Wellington College v Whangnui CS - 1.30pm
Super 8 (part of a sports exchange)
Round 2
Tauranga BC v Hamilton BHS - 12.30pmLivestream:
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There were a few games today. Results:
Traditional
Otago BHS 10 - 27 Christchurch BHS
Quad Tournament at Wellington College- Whanganui CS 35 - 28 Nelson College
- Wellington College 32 - 26 Christ's College
@Stargazer I didn't see them but the Quad games were live on Sky. Well Coll was trailing 19-7 at HT and Nelson College was well behind at HT too.
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@Stargazer I didn't see them but the Quad games were live on Sky. Well Coll was trailing 19-7 at HT and Nelson College was well behind at HT too.
@Bovidae I saw the last bit of the Wellington College v Christ's College game on YouTube and Christ's College came very, very close to scoring a try one minute before full time. Some desperate defence from Wellington College prevented that.
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@Stargazer I didn't see them but the Quad games were live on Sky. Well Coll was trailing 19-7 at HT and Nelson College was well behind at HT too.
@Bovidae @Stargazer I managed to sneak along to the school and caught both games. I can recommend viewing the Wanganui Collegiate v Nelson College game to everyone. It was a game that included an awful lot of free flow running back play from all parts of the field, especially from Wanganui where their midfield backs, Tali Ioasa and William Johnston, cut a merry caper. Their two locks (Ratanui Latus and Oscar Mabin) and No 8 (Timothy O'Leary) also shone in a thoroughly enjoyable match. To me it was by far the better game to watch. Apart from Nelson College being about ten minutes late onto the field that is!
Wellington have not had a very good season too date and it sure showed (apart from the first minute or two) throughout the first half against Christ's College where they were way behind in all aspects of play as well as the scoreboard. A Well Coll try right on the break was completely against the run of play but the crowd (some of them very vocal) got behind them after the break and things turned around as their confidence grew. Momentum is a hard thing to stop once a team has got it going and Christs College certainly could do nothing about arresting the initiative and looked pretty shell shocked at the final whistle. How close was it when they drove over right on time? It certainly was a close call but from where I was standing (about the 22 on that side of the field so pretty adjacent) I got the impression that it could have gone either way with a held up call most likely. So it proved and there was a massive surge from the terraces onto the field from the joyous home supporters who could scarcely believe that they had won!
@Stargazer I see the Jaffas are away at Scots College over in Strathmore tomorrow at 10.45am. Can't promise you anything but might be able to turn up and watch if I jiggle my schedule again
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@Bovidae I saw the last bit of the Wellington College v Christ's College game on YouTube and Christ's College came very, very close to scoring a try one minute before full time. Some desperate defence from Wellington College prevented that.
@Stargazer As per above I did indeed manage to find time to sneak along to Strathmore for the Scots v Jaffas game and @Magpie_in_aus will not be impressed. His team got absolutely annihilated 61 - 26 (halftime 42 - 07) but that doesn't really indicate the vast difference between the sides. Something like a sixty point margin would not have been surprising given the home sides dominance. Lindisfarne looked waaaaaaay smaller and younger with just four capped players starting compared to about ten or twelve Scots guys and some of the visiting team looked to be nothing more than fifth formers or possibly even fourth formers. The size disparity was telling with, after taking away their tighthead, the remainder of the Lindisfarne pack would collectively weigh less than the Scots front row. The Jaffa loosehead looked to be about the same size as the Scots halfback is another example. Out in the backs the size disparity was not quite so pronounced but several of the visitors looked like they could double as Under 65kg grade players (and that's only possible after having a decent feed just before weigh-in)
Having said that I am unaware whether the starting Lindisfarne side today was their strongest but I suspect the same may have also applied to Scots as neither starting lineup looked remotely likely to get within 30 points of any decent Super 8 team and that's not counting the dropped or poor passes along with misdirected kicks by both teams and in Lindisfarne's case their missed tackles.
On a brighter side (apart from the frost having melted) they never raised the white flag nor dropped their heads even after looking at the scoreboard when it read 56 - 07 so credit to them for that. On the darker side was the posted kick of time of 10.15am turned out to be more like 10.37am so maybe playing at the time teams like the Under 13s would normally play set the benchmark for the standard of play to be seen! All in all nothing exciting to remember the game for when sitting back in your rocking chair in your 80s reflecting on memories of games witnessed in the past. -
@Bovidae @Stargazer I managed to sneak along to the school and caught both games. I can recommend viewing the Wanganui Collegiate v Nelson College game to everyone. It was a game that included an awful lot of free flow running back play from all parts of the field, especially from Wanganui where their midfield backs, Tali Ioasa and William Johnston, cut a merry caper. Their two locks (Ratanui Latus and Oscar Mabin) and No 8 (Timothy O'Leary) also shone in a thoroughly enjoyable match. To me it was by far the better game to watch. Apart from Nelson College being about ten minutes late onto the field that is!
Wellington have not had a very good season too date and it sure showed (apart from the first minute or two) throughout the first half against Christ's College where they were way behind in all aspects of play as well as the scoreboard. A Well Coll try right on the break was completely against the run of play but the crowd (some of them very vocal) got behind them after the break and things turned around as their confidence grew. Momentum is a hard thing to stop once a team has got it going and Christs College certainly could do nothing about arresting the initiative and looked pretty shell shocked at the final whistle. How close was it when they drove over right on time? It certainly was a close call but from where I was standing (about the 22 on that side of the field so pretty adjacent) I got the impression that it could have gone either way with a held up call most likely. So it proved and there was a massive surge from the terraces onto the field from the joyous home supporters who could scarcely believe that they had won!
@Stargazer I see the Jaffas are away at Scots College over in Strathmore tomorrow at 10.45am. Can't promise you anything but might be able to turn up and watch if I jiggle my schedule again
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@Stargazer As per above I did indeed manage to find time to sneak along to Strathmore for the Scots v Jaffas game and @Magpie_in_aus will not be impressed. His team got absolutely annihilated 61 - 26 (halftime 42 - 07) but that doesn't really indicate the vast difference between the sides. Something like a sixty point margin would not have been surprising given the home sides dominance. Lindisfarne looked waaaaaaay smaller and younger with just four capped players starting compared to about ten or twelve Scots guys and some of the visiting team looked to be nothing more than fifth formers or possibly even fourth formers. The size disparity was telling with, after taking away their tighthead, the remainder of the Lindisfarne pack would collectively weigh less than the Scots front row. The Jaffa loosehead looked to be about the same size as the Scots halfback is another example. Out in the backs the size disparity was not quite so pronounced but several of the visitors looked like they could double as Under 65kg grade players (and that's only possible after having a decent feed just before weigh-in)
Having said that I am unaware whether the starting Lindisfarne side today was their strongest but I suspect the same may have also applied to Scots as neither starting lineup looked remotely likely to get within 30 points of any decent Super 8 team and that's not counting the dropped or poor passes along with misdirected kicks by both teams and in Lindisfarne's case their missed tackles.
On a brighter side (apart from the frost having melted) they never raised the white flag nor dropped their heads even after looking at the scoreboard when it read 56 - 07 so credit to them for that. On the darker side was the posted kick of time of 10.15am turned out to be more like 10.37am so maybe playing at the time teams like the Under 13s would normally play set the benchmark for the standard of play to be seen! All in all nothing exciting to remember the game for when sitting back in your rocking chair in your 80s reflecting on memories of games witnessed in the past.@Higgins I'm not surprised. This was definitely not their best line-up. Several of today's starters are usually on the bench, some of them not even in the 22 and some were playing out of position. The players on the bench for this game, are often starters. I guess they had to change it up because they'd only played their CNI game, last Saturday.
Lindisfarne indeed has a very green squad, this year, and I expect them to finish close to the bottom of the CNI, probably just above Rathkeale and St John's Hastings. If they're as young as you describe, they'll have at least one, possibly 2 more years together in this team, so there should be improvement next year and hopefully some growth as well.
By the way, one of today's locks (4), who usually is an openside flanker, is a Randell.
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Chiefs Manawa points table. I follow the facebook page but they don't seem to be too regular with updating.
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Wellington Quadrangular Tournament - Finals Day
Can't recall exactly the scores but in glorious sunshine and no wind and reasonable warmth Nelson College came from a fair way behind to take out the third place playoff against Christ's College by about eight or nine points in a deserved win whilst the final between Wanganui Collegiate and Wellington College was to finish in a controversial way where a couple of calls went against Wanganui that frankly defied belief, at least from my impartial point of view.Not long from time an offside interference obstruction by a Wellington player when attempting to stand up whilst the Wanganui halfback was standing over him trying to pick up the ball at the base of a ruck and set his backline underway with an attacking move that had a sniff of a try feel about it was either missed by the officials (but not by the many spectators standing close by) or was deemed to not be interfering with play despite both the halfback's feet being lifted off the ground meaning he could not reach the ball!
A few minutes later and even more controversial was a late tackle ruling that even using the words minisculeley late might have been an overstatement. As the kick went out on the full the resultant penalty was fifteen meters infield making the kick more easier and needless to say the young kid did kick it and that was the match, Wellington getting home by a solitary point (32 - 31 I think it was) against a very unlucky Wanganui side. Haven't seen the replay but no doubt @Stargazer will do so and then make the official decision on whether the ruled late tackle should have been called as such.
Despite everything Wanganui almost stole it in the remaining 90 seconds but a pass was ruled forward when a try was looking likely during a good series of attacks starting from almost their own goal line so they were left shaking their heads after coming so close but so far away from snatching overall honours.
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Wellington Quadrangular Tournament - Finals Day
Can't recall exactly the scores but in glorious sunshine and no wind and reasonable warmth Nelson College came from a fair way behind to take out the third place playoff against Christ's College by about eight or nine points in a deserved win whilst the final between Wanganui Collegiate and Wellington College was to finish in a controversial way where a couple of calls went against Wanganui that frankly defied belief, at least from my impartial point of view.Not long from time an offside interference obstruction by a Wellington player when attempting to stand up whilst the Wanganui halfback was standing over him trying to pick up the ball at the base of a ruck and set his backline underway with an attacking move that had a sniff of a try feel about it was either missed by the officials (but not by the many spectators standing close by) or was deemed to not be interfering with play despite both the halfback's feet being lifted off the ground meaning he could not reach the ball!
A few minutes later and even more controversial was a late tackle ruling that even using the words minisculeley late might have been an overstatement. As the kick went out on the full the resultant penalty was fifteen meters infield making the kick more easier and needless to say the young kid did kick it and that was the match, Wellington getting home by a solitary point (32 - 31 I think it was) against a very unlucky Wanganui side. Haven't seen the replay but no doubt @Stargazer will do so and then make the official decision on whether the ruled late tackle should have been called as such.
Despite everything Wanganui almost stole it in the remaining 90 seconds but a pass was ruled forward when a try was looking likely during a good series of attacks starting from almost their own goal line so they were left shaking their heads after coming so close but so far away from snatching overall honours.
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Results of the remaining mid-week games:
Wednesday 28 June 2023
Sports exchange
- Scots College 61 - 26 Lindisfarne College
- Francis Douglas MC 38 - 14 St Bernard's College
Harbour 1A
Round 10
Takapuna Grammar 6 - 12 Rosmini College
Wellington Premiership
Round 4
Mana College 14 - 24 Tawa College
Thursday 29 June 2023Quad Tournament at Wellington College
- Minor Final: Nelson College 38 - 31 Christ's College (doubles as Miles Toyota Premiership game)
- Major Final: Wellington College 32 - 31 Whangnui CS
Super 8 (part of a sports exchange)
Round 2
Tauranga BHS 19 - 37 Hamilton BHS
Tauranga won the 2nd XV game 7 - 5.
Hamilton won the exchange 7 - 5. -
@Higgins Thanks for the write-up. I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I didn't see the games. Going by a few comments on Whanganui's FB page, they were robbed!
@Stargazer Having seen it with my own eyes I can only agree with their sentiments. Haven't seen the replay but speaking with my flatmate, who watched the game on Sky, he agreed with me about the late tackle call, thought the forward pass call was right and did not notice the obstruction incident. I walked past the Wanganui players sitting on the grass outside their changing rooms and they were shattered. Spoke very briefly offering commiserations to Tafai Ioasa at the same time and he took the result diplomatically like a man but you could not help feeling upset for him as he was clearly hurting inside.
