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2023 School Rugby

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    @JK I did say earlier that I wouldn't be surprised to see Westlake win this game. They are my pick to win it all.

    I see that Hamilton BHS made a late charge but lost to TBC. Home field advantage was always going to be big in this game.

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    @Bovidae said in 2023 School Rugby:

    @JK I did say earlier that I wouldn't be surprised to see Westlake win this game. They are my pick to win it all.

    I see that Hamilton BHS made a late charge but lost to TBC. Home field advantage was always going to be big in this game.

    Damn so much drama in schools rugby this year, interesting bunch of teams to go through to the Top 4, some weird home ground advantages, TJ taking a shot at the A1 on Sky broadcast, and a Wellington school blatantly cheating in the Canes competition and being given a pass for it.

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      If Sacred Heart had won there would be 4 different schools from last year. Only Westlake remain from 2022. Probably a good thing.

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        I heard Hamilton Boys lost today. Is that true?

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          I heard Hamilton Boys lost today. Is that true?

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          @Stargazer 33-26.

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            @Stargazer 33-26.

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            @Bovidae Wow, we're getting totally different teams at the Top 4, this year.

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              I don’t think any of these 4 have won it before so we will have a new champ.

              Up the lake!!

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              • JKJ JK

                I don’t think any of these 4 have won it before so we will have a new champ.

                Up the lake!!

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                @JK said in 2023 School Rugby:

                I don’t think any of these 4 have won it before so we will have a new champ.

                Yes. Looking at the records, Southland BHS lost in the 1987 final and Palmerston North BHS lost in 1996 and 1997.

                2012 is the last time a South Island school even made the final (Otago BHS).

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                  You know a school 1st XV's management is dodgy when they keep the camera on them the whole bloody time! There's video evidence of the cheating by the Scots College coaches! How the heck did they get the decison on FAHS appeal overturned?

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                    is that the official game footage? seems to be spending all its time on their bench as if they were looking for something

                    that is criminal, could the final not have been pushed a week and FAHS play it as they deserve too? looks like Scots were just trying to punish FAHS

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                    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                      is that the official game footage? seems to be spending all its time on their bench as if they were looking for something

                      that is criminal, could the final not have been pushed a week and FAHS play it as they deserve too? looks like Scots were just trying to punish FAHS

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                      @Kiwiwomble I don't think it's the official game footage, but I'd say the person behind the camera knew something fishy was about to happen. Why else would they focus on the team management and bench?

                      There was no time to play the final a week later! The Top 4 starts this Friday!

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        @Kiwiwomble I don't think it's the official game footage, but I'd say the person behind the camera knew something fishy was about to happen. Why else would they focus on the team management and bench?

                        There was no time to play the final a week later! The Top 4 starts this Friday!

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                        @Stargazer its really weird as thats obviously a filming scaffold, right on half way close to the sideline, also looks like a proper camera on a tripod (stable) rather than just someone using their phone...but yeah...filming the bench rather than the game, super sus, whos ground was that at?

                        fair enough, just really feel for FAHS, rightfully should have been able to play their final, Scots appealing just to default just seems petty

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                          That's appalling dishonesty all round from Scots College. Feilding Ag can rightly feel aggrieved. One wonders if there is something in the Scots charter that trumpets honesty and integrity?

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                          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                            @Stargazer its really weird as thats obviously a filming scaffold, right on half way close to the sideline, also looks like a proper camera on a tripod (stable) rather than just someone using their phone...but yeah...filming the bench rather than the game, super sus, whos ground was that at?

                            fair enough, just really feel for FAHS, rightfully should have been able to play their final, Scots appealing just to default just seems petty

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                            @Kiwiwomble said in 2023 School Rugby:

                            whos ground was that at

                            It was a home game for Scots College and the game was supposed to be played on their own ground, but a day or so before the game,it was moved to another ground in the same suburb. I don't know why. Still huge home advantage.

                            Why Scots got to play at home was a debatable decision, too. The first semi is played between Super 8 schools and is based on merit: it's at the ground of the highest ranked Hurricanes team in the Super 8.
                            The second semi, between the Wellington Premiership winner and the highest ranked Hurricanes school in the CNI competition, was played in Wellington, last year. As there is no ranking to determine the home advantage, it would be fair to alternate between Wellington and the ground of the CNI finalist. So it should really have been played at Feilding's home ground, this year.

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                              Westlake, who are also proud Auckland First XI football and cricket champions

                              :thumbs_up:

                              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/first-xv-rugby-wrap-the-best-of-schoolboy-rugby-overshadows-the-worst-westlakes-most-gratifying-win/BN5LGV4BGRB4DON6MVP5J6KBOY/

                              Hulking centre James Cameron introduced Murray-Macgregor to the scoresheet. A bullying bust at halfway saw the Crusaders-bound Murray-Macgregor galloping alongside Cameron to eventually take a regulation pass.

                              :thumbs_down: :thumbs_down: :thumbs_down:

                              Absolutely vile.

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                                Westlake, who are also proud Auckland First XI football and cricket champions

                                :thumbs_up:

                                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/first-xv-rugby-wrap-the-best-of-schoolboy-rugby-overshadows-the-worst-westlakes-most-gratifying-win/BN5LGV4BGRB4DON6MVP5J6KBOY/

                                Hulking centre James Cameron introduced Murray-Macgregor to the scoresheet. A bullying bust at halfway saw the Crusaders-bound Murray-Macgregor galloping alongside Cameron to eventually take a regulation pass.

                                :thumbs_down: :thumbs_down: :thumbs_down:

                                Absolutely vile.

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                                @Tim I'd heard the fullback was heading there too

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                                  Have a look at the Crusaders U18 squad (I think there were two listed). If NH could keep their best school boy players they would be better for it. Now, they lose young talent to both Canterbury and Auckland.

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    Have a look at the Crusaders U18 squad (I think there were two listed). If NH could keep their best school boy players they would be better for it. Now, they lose young talent to both Canterbury and Auckland.

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                                    @Bovidae It happens everywhere, unfortunately. For us in HB, the Highlanders are the worst, but Blues scouts have been at our school games as well this year and we've lost a few players to the Crusaders region in recent years, too. Several of our recent school leavers have been playing club rugby in Otago this year, and at least 3 of them are now in the Otago U19 squad. There's at least one in the Canterbury U19 squad. I haven't looked at other U19 and development squads, but I might find a few more. It's frustrating, but I lay some of the blame with the Hurricanes, too. Players know very well that the Hurricanes always look at Wellington players first & they may think they have a better chance at making it down South because of that.

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                                      TOP 4

                                      SEMI-FINALS
                                      Friday, Sep 2023 - CET Arena, Palmerston North


                                      Hine Pounamu Trophy – Girls 1st XV

                                      Friday, 1 Sep 2023 - 10.30am:
                                      Mount Albert Grammar School v Hamilton GHS

                                      Friday, 1 Sep 2023 - 12.30pm:
                                      MANUKURA v Christchurch GHS


                                      Barbarians Cup - Boys 1st XV

                                      Friday, 1 Sep 2023 - 1.10pm:
                                      Westlake BHS v Tauranga BC

                                      Friday, 1 Sep 2023 - 2.45pm:
                                      Palmerston North BHS v Southland BHS


                                      Whakaata Māori only seem to be streaming two of the four semi-finals, unless they still have to post the other two:


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                                        I did read that they might not be showing all SFs live. I don't know if that is due to moving to CET Arena this year, and obviously games 2 and 3 overlap. A pity, if true, as the other SFs would be more interesting.

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          I did read that they might not be showing all SFs live. I don't know if that is due to moving to CET Arena this year, and obviously games 2 and 3 overlap. A pity, if true, as the other SFs would be more interesting.

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                                          @Bovidae I assume they're only streaming the games from one of the fields the games are played on. I'm happy with the boys' game they're streaming, but would have preferred the other girls' game.

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