Six Nations 2023
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I couldn't find an overall thread to cover this except for the individual match threads. But please combine if there is one
I have almost lost interest in rugby until now. But I thought this article was interesting. And concerning for NZ and Aust rugby. Hopefully SA is never allowed to join. Travel for one would be a pain for the current sides. And why change what works
NZ or Aust winning this years RWC will remove the gloss somewhat
Regarding the 6 nation teams. I've always had a soft spot for Wales so hope they can perform better.now with super coach Gatland back in charge.
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I couldn't find an overall thread to cover this except for the individual match threads. But please combine if there is one
I have almost lost interest in rugby until now. But I thought this article was interesting. And concerning for NZ and Aust rugby. Hopefully SA is never allowed to join. Travel for one would be a pain for the current sides. And why change what works
NZ or Aust winning this years RWC will remove the gloss somewhat
Regarding the 6 nation teams. I've always had a soft spot for Wales so hope they can perform better.now with super coach Gatland back in charge.
@Winger The 6N has so many great things going for it.
Chiefly the fan experience which comes down to travel times. The longest travel time in the 6N is less than the shortest was in the RC. The notion of a weekend in Rome wity a rugby game as the centrepiece is phenomenal.
This in turn makes the experience at the ground much better because there is a sizeable travelling and vocal away support.
The grounds are all magnificent
There is a sense of history that professional rugby in the southern hemisphere cannot match.
The competition is much more even
What's not to like. I'd follow it even if the rugby was shite. Which let's face it has often been the case.
Joining the 6N has always made sense for Sth Africa. Easier travel. No long tour. Better time zones. It isn't such a great deal for the existing competitors though. What's in it for them? Even more importantly- what's in it for their constituent clubs? I can't see them wanting more disruption to their club seasons.
It was a very short-term focused article IMO. The NH look to be heading for financial trauma.
The long decline in, and then demise of, the RC has presented all the participants with challenges. But also opportunities.
If they can join the 6N I think it would be a good call for SA but not necessarily to their long term benefit. When the cycle turns and NZ is strong again, not playing us twice a year will have repercussions too.
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If WR/NH unions allow SA to go to the 6 Nations then they really don't give a shit about rugby in a broad sense.
@Nepia said in Six Nations 2023:
If WR/NH unions allow SA to go to the 6 Nations then they really don't give a shit about rugby in a broad sense.
lol fuck you think they do? oh you poor naïve fool
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If WR/NH unions allow SA to go to the 6 Nations then they really don't give a shit about rugby in a broad sense.
@Nepia said in Six Nations 2023:
If WR/NH unions allow SA to go to the 6 Nations then they really don't give a shit about rugby in a broad sense.
Agree with this. They would almost destroy NZ rugby (or speed a decline). Same for Aust Esp considering that's where all the money comes from. Not super rugby
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@Winger The 6N has so many great things going for it.
Chiefly the fan experience which comes down to travel times. The longest travel time in the 6N is less than the shortest was in the RC. The notion of a weekend in Rome wity a rugby game as the centrepiece is phenomenal.
This in turn makes the experience at the ground much better because there is a sizeable travelling and vocal away support.
The grounds are all magnificent
There is a sense of history that professional rugby in the southern hemisphere cannot match.
The competition is much more even
What's not to like. I'd follow it even if the rugby was shite. Which let's face it has often been the case.
Joining the 6N has always made sense for Sth Africa. Easier travel. No long tour. Better time zones. It isn't such a great deal for the existing competitors though. What's in it for them? Even more importantly- what's in it for their constituent clubs? I can't see them wanting more disruption to their club seasons.
It was a very short-term focused article IMO. The NH look to be heading for financial trauma.
The long decline in, and then demise of, the RC has presented all the participants with challenges. But also opportunities.
If they can join the 6N I think it would be a good call for SA but not necessarily to their long term benefit. When the cycle turns and NZ is strong again, not playing us twice a year will have repercussions too.
@dogmeat said in Six Nations 2023:
If they can join the 6N I think it would be a good call for SA but not necessarily to their long term benefit.
Wonder what the financial payout would be for SA from a 6 or 7 nations vs the RC. I would guess more and a lot but maybe not
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SA are desperate to join as they have such a huge, relatively wealthy & influential fanbase here & are desperate to get rid of mediocre RC results which they blame on excessive travel.
The consensus seems to be leaning towards having SA clubs in the club tournament has been a bit of a disaster, so I'd say its less likely than ever.
SA would also need to understand that they would go from being the big boy in the room to likely 6th out of 7 in pecking order. Not sure that would work.
Anyway, love the 6N, can't wait. Ireland for me,as I think they are home against France. Which is obviously the biggest match. Will be interesting to see how the new England goes too. Borthwick bounce?
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I think SA joining the NH would be a good idea, although a considerable risk to every other nation. Imagine if they learnt some stodgy forward play, the defining characteristic of NH rugby, to go with their natural tendency to run with the ball. They'd be unbeatable.
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I know it's not 6N as such, but anyone see the U20s games this morning? Saw some of Italy/France and most of Wales/Ireland bloody good. The Wesh team had a bloody good midfield that impressed hell our of me, and keep an eye out for Scarfe their No2, looks to have the goods. Ireland had the better all round team, and certainly were good for the win, and have a good amount of talent coming through, looks like good pathways there.
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I know it's not 6N as such, but anyone see the U20s games this morning? Saw some of Italy/France and most of Wales/Ireland bloody good. The Wesh team had a bloody good midfield that impressed hell our of me, and keep an eye out for Scarfe their No2, looks to have the goods. Ireland had the better all round team, and certainly were good for the win, and have a good amount of talent coming through, looks like good pathways there.
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@Dan54 The U20 replays are on Sky Sport, tonight. On now (Sky Sport 9), England v Scotland, followed by Italy v France at 9.05pm, and then Wales v Ireland at 11.00pm.
@Stargazer Yep mate were all on live this morning about 7,30-8. Sorry if I spoiled the viewing assumed everyone would of seen it.
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So who else watched and enjoyed this morning's (NZ time) tests. I surely did very good rugby!
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@ARHS Yep no real surprises on results, that Irish team is so bloody good, and Scotland I think while not going to win it will push for 3rd place (unless Ireland lose Sexton to injury, then 2nd spot maybe open). That's not saying they one man team by any means, but he certainly sets their game plan.
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Youtube's 'Two Cents Rugby' has a front page headline article and a regular gig with Rugby Planet- good on him -
"Two Cents Rugby picks five of the standout players of the round and it’s a healthy mix of forwards and backs.
The YouTube star is joining us throughout the Championship and kicks off with his Round One selection."
https://www.planetrugby.com/news/six-nations-two-cents-rugby-picks-his-top-five-players-of-round-one
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An article with detailed eligibility info re: six nations squads -
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An article with detailed eligibility info re: six nations squads -
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Six Nations 2023:
An article with detailed eligibility info re: six nations squads -
Went straight to Wales
Any list that contains Faletau as foreign is drivel
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