India v Aus
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I read Travis Head wasn't picked for this game because clever reasons. Whatever they were, they somehow look even dumber in hindsight.
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After one over Rohit has surpassed the joint run-making contributions of Waj, Warner, Renshaw, Cummins, Murphy, Lyon and Boland.
@Chris-B said in India v Aus:
After one over Rohit has surpassed the joint run-making contributions of Waj, Warner, Renshaw, Cummins, Murphy, Lyon and Boland.
That was an especially generous opening over from a bowler of Pat Cummins quality. Lyon being brought into the attack as I type... thought Boland deserved at least a second over with the new ball, given he settled into his work without a first over of random looseners...
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Looking at the Aussie wickets, the plan to doctor the pitch isn't apparent yet.
Waj - feet
Warner - feet
Labuschagne - decision making poor
Henshaw - close umpiring decision but half-arsed feet and not playing for spin.
Smith - massive gap between bat and bad
Carey - reverse sweep. ugh...
Cummins - good ball to a tail ender but poor decision
Murphy - reaching
Hanscomb - trying to smack it 8 down, so got what it deserved.
Boland - played the wrong line. No feet. He's a #11 -
Looking at the Aussie wickets, the plan to doctor the pitch isn't apparent yet.
Waj - feet
Warner - feet
Labuschagne - decision making poor
Henshaw - close umpiring decision but half-arsed feet and not playing for spin.
Smith - massive gap between bat and bad
Carey - reverse sweep. ugh...
Cummins - good ball to a tail ender but poor decision
Murphy - reaching
Hanscomb - trying to smack it 8 down, so got what it deserved.
Boland - played the wrong line. No feet. He's a #11 -
@NTA said in India v Aus:
the plan to doctor the pitch isn't apparent yet.
2/2 to pace isn't the pitch. Long way back from 177, although it's not massively below par for this ground it appears. Going to be a result!
@nzzp said in India v Aus:
@NTA said in India v Aus:
the plan to doctor the pitch isn't apparent yet.
2/2 to pace isn't the pitch. Long way back from 177, although it's not massively below par for this ground it appears. Going to be a result!
Only saw highlights bc I don't have Kayo, but the only result is likely a crushing defeat to Australia.
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Brain fade by Australia in dropping Travis Head plays spin better than most Aussie batsmen.
Hanscome a decent bat but not on the level Head has been at for the last 2 years.
Maybe they freaked out over the way they thought the pitch was being prepared and dropped a leftie but still over reacting before the pitch is fully prepared. -
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Brain fade by Australia in dropping Travis Head plays spin better than most Aussie batsmen.
Hanscome a decent bat but not on the level Head has been at for the last 2 years.
Maybe they freaked out over the way they thought the pitch was being prepared and dropped a leftie but still over reacting before the pitch is fully prepared.@Chris said in India v Aus:
Brain fade by Australia in dropping Travis Head plays spin better than most Aussie batsmen.
Hanscome a decent bat but not on the level Head has been at for the last 2 years.
Maybe they freaked out over the way they thought the pitch was being prepared and dropped a leftie but still over reacting before the pitch is fully prepared.Unusually by their standards, Australia seem to have lost the mind games before they start. Between getting Ashwin's action-doppelganger to bowl to them in the build-up, all the chat about the pitch, and leaving out Travis Head, India must be delighted about how rent-free they seem to be living in the minds of the Baggy Green.
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@Chris said in India v Aus:
Brain fade by Australia in dropping Travis Head plays spin better than most Aussie batsmen.
Hanscome a decent bat but not on the level Head has been at for the last 2 years.
Maybe they freaked out over the way they thought the pitch was being prepared and dropped a leftie but still over reacting before the pitch is fully prepared.Unusually by their standards, Australia seem to have lost the mind games before they start. Between getting Ashwin's action-doppelganger to bowl to them in the build-up, all the chat about the pitch, and leaving out Travis Head, India must be delighted about how rent-free they seem to be living in the minds of the Baggy Green.
@Donsteppa said in India v Aus:
@Chris said in India v Aus:
Brain fade by Australia in dropping Travis Head plays spin better than most Aussie batsmen.
Hanscome a decent bat but not on the level Head has been at for the last 2 years.
Maybe they freaked out over the way they thought the pitch was being prepared and dropped a leftie but still over reacting before the pitch is fully prepared.Unusually by their standards, Australia seem to have lost the mind games before they start. Between getting Ashwin's action-doppelganger to bowl to them in the build-up, all the chat about the pitch, and leaving out Travis Head, India must be delighted about how rent-free they seem to be living in the minds of the Baggy Green.
Yep Australia seem to have over thought this tour and gone away from what has made them successful,
Australia just need to pull back and play what is in front of them and not look for demons. -
@Chris said in India v Aus:
Brain fade by Australia in dropping Travis Head plays spin better than most Aussie batsmen.
Hanscome a decent bat but not on the level Head has been at for the last 2 years.
Maybe they freaked out over the way they thought the pitch was being prepared and dropped a leftie but still over reacting before the pitch is fully prepared.Unusually by their standards, Australia seem to have lost the mind games before they start. Between getting Ashwin's action-doppelganger to bowl to them in the build-up, all the chat about the pitch, and leaving out Travis Head, India must be delighted about how rent-free they seem to be living in the minds of the Baggy Green.
@Donsteppa said in India v Aus:
@Chris said in India v Aus:
Brain fade by Australia in dropping Travis Head plays spin better than most Aussie batsmen.
Hanscome a decent bat but not on the level Head has been at for the last 2 years.
Maybe they freaked out over the way they thought the pitch was being prepared and dropped a leftie but still over reacting before the pitch is fully prepared.Unusually by their standards, Australia seem to have lost the mind games before they start. Between getting Ashwin's action-doppelganger to bowl to them in the build-up, all the chat about the pitch, and leaving out Travis Head, India must be delighted about how rent-free they seem to be living in the minds of the Baggy Green.
I blame New Age captaincy.
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Brain fade by Australia in dropping Travis Head plays spin better than most Aussie batsmen.
Hanscome a decent bat but not on the level Head has been at for the last 2 years.
Maybe they freaked out over the way they thought the pitch was being prepared and dropped a leftie but still over reacting before the pitch is fully prepared.@Chris said in India v Aus:
Brain fade by Australia in dropping Travis Head plays spin better than most Aussie batsmen.
Hanscome a decent bat but not on the level Head has been at for the last 2 years.
Maybe they freaked out over the way they thought the pitch was being prepared and dropped a leftie but still over reacting before the pitch is fully prepared.From what I have listened to, in podcasts for a few months, Head not likely to play in India, or not even tour , was forecast a long way out - so not freaking out about the specific pitch. Based on him being being poor v spin.
I've never watched him in Asia, so I have no opinion. I'm surprised though at your 100% different take.
He scored zilch in 5 tests last year in SL and Pak. So, that is what the decision is based on.
They have also lost Chris Green, though, since this planning - so going even deeper into their not-Head depth.
But, players can improve. This also used to be their selector's policy on Khawaja for a while.
Also, in the other column, Head went on to be the batsman of their summer, while this planning was presumably fermenting.
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@Donsteppa said in India v Aus:
@Chris said in India v Aus:
Brain fade by Australia in dropping Travis Head plays spin better than most Aussie batsmen.
Hanscome a decent bat but not on the level Head has been at for the last 2 years.
Maybe they freaked out over the way they thought the pitch was being prepared and dropped a leftie but still over reacting before the pitch is fully prepared.Unusually by their standards, Australia seem to have lost the mind games before they start. Between getting Ashwin's action-doppelganger to bowl to them in the build-up, all the chat about the pitch, and leaving out Travis Head, India must be delighted about how rent-free they seem to be living in the minds of the Baggy Green.
I blame New Age captaincy.
@antipodean said in India v Aus:
@Donsteppa said in India v Aus:
@Chris said in India v Aus:
Brain fade by Australia in dropping Travis Head plays spin better than most Aussie batsmen.
Hanscome a decent bat but not on the level Head has been at for the last 2 years.
Maybe they freaked out over the way they thought the pitch was being prepared and dropped a leftie but still over reacting before the pitch is fully prepared.Unusually by their standards, Australia seem to have lost the mind games before they start. Between getting Ashwin's action-doppelganger to bowl to them in the build-up, all the chat about the pitch, and leaving out Travis Head, India must be delighted about how rent-free they seem to be living in the minds of the Baggy Green.
I blame New Age captaincy.
Langer would have picked the best XI players and told them to be tough. Hand holding and being cerebral is fine against the shit teams playing at home.
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@antipodean said in India v Aus:
@Donsteppa said in India v Aus:
@Chris said in India v Aus:
Brain fade by Australia in dropping Travis Head plays spin better than most Aussie batsmen.
Hanscome a decent bat but not on the level Head has been at for the last 2 years.
Maybe they freaked out over the way they thought the pitch was being prepared and dropped a leftie but still over reacting before the pitch is fully prepared.Unusually by their standards, Australia seem to have lost the mind games before they start. Between getting Ashwin's action-doppelganger to bowl to them in the build-up, all the chat about the pitch, and leaving out Travis Head, India must be delighted about how rent-free they seem to be living in the minds of the Baggy Green.
I blame New Age captaincy.
Langer would have picked the best XI players and told them to be tough. Hand holding and being cerebral is fine against the shit teams playing at home.
@mariner4life said in India v Aus:
@antipodean said in India v Aus:
@Donsteppa said in India v Aus:
@Chris said in India v Aus:
Brain fade by Australia in dropping Travis Head plays spin better than most Aussie batsmen.
Hanscome a decent bat but not on the level Head has been at for the last 2 years.
Maybe they freaked out over the way they thought the pitch was being prepared and dropped a leftie but still over reacting before the pitch is fully prepared.Unusually by their standards, Australia seem to have lost the mind games before they start. Between getting Ashwin's action-doppelganger to bowl to them in the build-up, all the chat about the pitch, and leaving out Travis Head, India must be delighted about how rent-free they seem to be living in the minds of the Baggy Green.
I blame New Age captaincy.
Langer would have picked the best XI players and told them to be tough. Hand holding and being cerebral is fine against the shit teams playing at home.
Langer would have picked people who demonstrate elite mateship. Loyalty more important than skill
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@Chris said in India v Aus:
Brain fade by Australia in dropping Travis Head plays spin better than most Aussie batsmen.
Hanscome a decent bat but not on the level Head has been at for the last 2 years.
Maybe they freaked out over the way they thought the pitch was being prepared and dropped a leftie but still over reacting before the pitch is fully prepared.From what I have listened to, in podcasts for a few months, Head not likely to play in India, or not even tour , was forecast a long way out - so not freaking out about the specific pitch. Based on him being being poor v spin.
I've never watched him in Asia, so I have no opinion. I'm surprised though at your 100% different take.
He scored zilch in 5 tests last year in SL and Pak. So, that is what the decision is based on.
They have also lost Chris Green, though, since this planning - so going even deeper into their not-Head depth.
But, players can improve. This also used to be their selector's policy on Khawaja for a while.
Also, in the other column, Head went on to be the batsman of their summer, while this planning was presumably fermenting.
@Rapido said in India v Aus:
@Chris said in India v Aus:
Brain fade by Australia in dropping Travis Head plays spin better than most Aussie batsmen.
Hanscome a decent bat but not on the level Head has been at for the last 2 years.
Maybe they freaked out over the way they thought the pitch was being prepared and dropped a leftie but still over reacting before the pitch is fully prepared.From what I have listened to, in podcasts for a few months, Head not likely to play in India, or not even tour , was forecast a long way out - so not freaking out about the specific pitch. Based on him being being poor v spin.
I've never watched him in Asia, so I have no opinion. I'm surprised though at your 100% different take.
He scored zilch in 5 tests last year in SL and Pak. So, that is what the decision is based on.
They have also lost Chris Green, though, since this planning - so going even deeper into their not-Head depth.
But, players can improve. This also used to be their selector's policy on Khawaja for a while.
Also, in the other column, Head went on to be the batsman of their summer, while this planning was presumably fermenting.
I am not sure about podcasts which I don't always listen to here in Australia because it is not always fact.
What I can tell you is When the Gabba test was on we get allocated a test player to come to the Queensland under 19 training,As we were preparing the team for the National championships in Adelaide we requested a batsmen for a Spin session we were running due to playing in Adelaide were spin is quite dominant.
Andrew McDonald came down with Travis Head who Andrew told us was the best player of Spin in the test squad.And he was excellent in helping develop plans to play spin in Adelaide.Worked well I must add as we made the Final but did lose the Final to NSW Metro.
Marnus and Uzzie came down being Qld boys and helped out as well, they also said Travis was the man for the spin sessions..
Travis Head coming from South Australia was bought up playing spin.
talking to the Qld bulls spinners Mitch etc they say he is one of the better players of Spin.
So I only know what I see and opinions of people in the Australian cricket system.Not so much what is said on podcasts. -
It's probably from The Final Word podcast that I have been hearing that.
Predicting he would tour (as a longer term bet, for future tours) but not in the Plan A test team. And to be fair, they are 100% correct so far.
Despite even Cam Green being out from the first choice home top6, another 2 batters have leapfrogged Head. So someone in the heirachy doesn't rate him in these conditions. That says they have him at best only 8th choice for one of the top 6 positions.
'They' may end up being wrong about Head v spin in Asia right now, but that doesn't make me change my mind that it isn't a knee-jerk over-reaction to the pitch. It's presumably a reaction to Head's performances in Asia 2022.
It reads to me that they had good oil on the selection thinking from a long way out.
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My favourite thing on the fern right now is people telling @Chris how wrong he is about cricket
And him then quietly tearing their opinions to shreds with real shit
@mariner4life said in India v Aus:
My favourite thing on the fern right now is people telling @Chris how wrong he is about cricket
And him then quietly tearing their opinions to shreds with real shit
Yeah.
Expressing surprise that 2 sources with some inside knowledge have 100% different views, while explicitly stating I had no personal opinion.
= "how wrong he is about cricket".
ok.
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It's probably from The Final Word podcast that I have been hearing that.
Predicting he would tour (as a longer term bet, for future tours) but not in the Plan A test team. And to be fair, they are 100% correct so far.
Despite even Cam Green being out from the first choice home top6, another 2 batters have leapfrogged Head. So someone in the heirachy doesn't rate him in these conditions. That says they have him at best only 8th choice for one of the top 6 positions.
'They' may end up being wrong about Head v spin in Asia right now, but that doesn't make me change my mind that it isn't a knee-jerk over-reaction to the pitch. It's presumably a reaction to Head's performances in Asia 2022.
It reads to me that they had good oil on the selection thinking from a long way out.
@Rapido said in India v Aus:
It's probably from The Final Word podcast that I have been hearing that.
Predicting he would tour (as a longer term bet, for future tours) but not in the Plan A test team. And to be fair, they are 100% correct so far.
Despite even Cam Green being out from the first choice home top6, another 2 batters have leapfrogged Head. So someone in the heirachy doesn't rate him in these conditions. That says they have him at best only 8th choice for one of the top 6 positions.
'They' may end up being wrong about Head v spin in Asia right now, but that doesn't make me change my mind that it isn't a knee-jerk over-reaction to the pitch. It's presumably a reaction to Head's performances in Asia 2022.
It reads to me that they had good oil on the selection thinking from a long way out.
Not sure about Travis Head being all bad and a failure in the sub continent he made a duck in his First inns v Pakistain in Dubai then a very good 75 in the 2nd inns on a wkt turning more than the 1st innings.And that was his First test in those conditions.
Not sure about inside knowledge but Maybe Andrew McDonald who is the Australia Hc and Marnes and Uzzie might have some inside knowledge.
Expect to see Head back in for the next 2 tests.One thing I will, add Pat Cummins maybe really tested as Captain on this tour,I suspect he maybe found wanting as the Captain.
