Black Caps v England
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So bowling first spectacularly backfired once again
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v England:
So bowling first spectacularly backfired once again
To expand on this, bowling first should only be considered in extremely bowler friendly conditions where you are confident you will roll them for less than 200, less than 150 ideally. Bowling first in both of these tests is just idiotic.
If you bat first and manage 250, even if they reply with 400 you are still a good chance of setting them a tricky total to chase. On the flip side, if you score 250 in response to them making 400 batting first, you are fucked and it's just a matter of how bigger total they want to set you.
To me, us choosing to bowl just says to England we are scared of your bowling lineup and don't think we will survive the first hour. It's a really negative mindset.
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@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v England:
So bowling first spectacularly backfired once again
To expand on this, bowling first should only be considered in extremely bowler friendly conditions where you are confident you will roll them for less than 200, less than 150 ideally. Bowling first in both of these tests is just idiotic.
If you bat first and manage 250, even if they reply with 400 you are still a good chance of setting them a tricky total to chase. On the flip side, if you score 250 in response to them making 400 batting first, you are fucked and it's just a matter of how bigger total they want to set you.
To me, us choosing to bowl just says to England we are scared of your bowling lineup and don't think we will survive the first hour. It's a really negative mindset.
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v England:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v England:
So bowling first spectacularly backfired once again
To expand on this, bowling first should only be considered in extremely bowler friendly conditions where you are confident you will roll them for less than 200, less than 150 ideally. Bowling first in both of these tests is just idiotic.
If you bat first and manage 250, even if they reply with 400 you are still a good chance of setting them a tricky total to chase. On the flip side, if you score 250 in response to them making 400 batting first, you are fucked and it's just a matter of how bigger total they want to set you.
To me, us choosing to bowl just says to England we are scared of your bowling lineup and don't think we will survive the first hour. It's a really negative mindset.
You basically always bowl first at the Basin. It is the only time you get anything out of the pitch.
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@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v England:
So bowling first spectacularly backfired once again
To expand on this, bowling first should only be considered in extremely bowler friendly conditions where you are confident you will roll them for less than 200, less than 150 ideally. Bowling first in both of these tests is just idiotic.
If you bat first and manage 250, even if they reply with 400 you are still a good chance of setting them a tricky total to chase. On the flip side, if you score 250 in response to them making 400 batting first, you are fucked and it's just a matter of how bigger total they want to set you.
To me, us choosing to bowl just says to England we are scared of your bowling lineup and don't think we will survive the first hour. It's a really negative mindset.
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v England:
To expand on this, bowling first should only be considered in extremely bowler friendly conditions where you are confident you will roll them for less than 200, less than 150 ideally. Bowling first in both of these tests is just idiotic
At the Basin? Really?
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@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v England:
To expand on this, bowling first should only be considered in extremely bowler friendly conditions where you are confident you will roll them for less than 200, less than 150 ideally. Bowling first in both of these tests is just idiotic
At the Basin? Really?
@ARHS said in Black Caps v England:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v England:
To expand on this, bowling first should only be considered in extremely bowler friendly conditions where you are confident you will roll them for less than 200, less than 150 ideally. Bowling first in both of these tests is just idiotic
At the Basin? Really?
I know teams bowling first at the Basin have historically had more success, but that's also pretty team dependant. Quite a few recent wins bowling first were lop sided affairs between mis-matched sides, eg. us slapping the Bangles (twice) and WI, or Aus slapping us, those results probably stay the same regardless of who bowls first. Of the last 15 tests it looks like 6 won by team bowling first, 4 by team batting first, and 5 draws. Given how much flatter the deck is these days I think we give up our overall advantage in the test as the likelihood of us skittling a team like England in the first hour is pretty low.
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@ARHS said in Black Caps v England:
@No-Quarter said in Black Caps v England:
To expand on this, bowling first should only be considered in extremely bowler friendly conditions where you are confident you will roll them for less than 200, less than 150 ideally. Bowling first in both of these tests is just idiotic
At the Basin? Really?
I know teams bowling first at the Basin have historically had more success, but that's also pretty team dependant. Quite a few recent wins bowling first were lop sided affairs between mis-matched sides, eg. us slapping the Bangles (twice) and WI, or Aus slapping us, those results probably stay the same regardless of who bowls first. Of the last 15 tests it looks like 6 won by team bowling first, 4 by team batting first, and 5 draws. Given how much flatter the deck is these days I think we give up our overall advantage in the test as the likelihood of us skittling a team like England in the first hour is pretty low.
@No-Quarter we have 4 front line bowlers so want to bowl when conditions are most favourable. Or so I thought. Just phenomenal again from Brook.
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We picked eight batsmen. This was always going to turn to shit
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Glad I got to see our golden period, coz we’ve come crashing back to our usual mediocre rubbish cricket pretty quickly.
@Gunner said in Black Caps v England:
Glad I got to see our golden period, coz we’ve come crashing back to our usual mediocre rubbish cricket pretty quickly.
From Black Caps to Black Craps in a very short time. Might have to start watching reruns of the last CTC cycle instead
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@Gunner said in Black Caps v England:
Glad I got to see our golden period, coz we’ve come crashing back to our usual mediocre rubbish cricket pretty quickly.
From Black Caps to Black Craps in a very short time. Might have to start watching reruns of the last CTC cycle instead
@canefan said in Black Caps v England:
@Gunner said in Black Caps v England:
Glad I got to see our golden period, coz we’ve come crashing back to our usual mediocre rubbish cricket pretty quickly.
From Black Caps to Black Craps in a very short time. Might have to start watching reruns of the last CTC cycle instead
We can always take comfort knowing we won the first ever WTC.
If anyone can find any more straws to clutch at I’m all ears.
Oh, there’s one, we’re 21/3 now, so were England and look how they turned out !!!!
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Young nicks off yet again good ball by Anderson but Young completely lost his off stump again.
I mentioned a few days ago England would have his measure.
Young has a big weakness to anything on off stump to 5th stump on a good length.@Chris said in Black Caps v England:
Young nicks off yet again good ball by Anderson but Young completely lost his off stump again.
I mentioned a few days ago England would have his measure.
Young has a big weakness to anything on off stump to 5th stump on a good length.Andersons forms since turning 40 is quite obscene.
I wonder if Paddles is sitting at home wishing he’d played for a bit longer and pushed for 500 wickets at 21 ?
Bowlers at that age are supposed to break, lose form etc. Why is Anderson bucking the trend like this ?
685 wickets at 25.86, he’s gone from good to very good to great.
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So far so good from Latham and Nicholls.
Re Paddles, I have a vague memory of some sort of surgery or health scare not long after his retirement, so he probably timed it right. Biggest handbrake back in the day was probably one home test series, three matches max per summer... weather allowing.
Anderson may have quietly discovered a fountain of youth.
