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  • BonesB Bones

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    @Bones

    It would be good to see stats for the number of shit kicks per game. Pretty sure England would top that list too 😟

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    • CatograndeC Catogrande

      @Bones

      It would be good to see stats for the number of shit kicks per game. Pretty sure England would top that list too 😟

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      @Catogrande said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

      @Bones

      It would be good to see stats for the number of shit kicks per game. Pretty sure England would top that list too 😟

      On an absolute basis, maybe.

      But plenty of supposedly attacking teams put up a huge number of ale-house balls. back & midBarrett, Mounga and Jordan all hoofed and hoped with overlaps in the final.

      And Kriel’s worst play of the RWC was his shocking effort after Kwagga’s turnover.

      I was many beers in but I also vaguely recall one of the Irish players putting up a nothing kick right at the death when he had space to exploit. You could almost see his gears stripping as he tried and failed to come up with anything better to do. Pressure’s a bastard.

      It’s a long while ago now but Scotland probably were the worst wasters of good attacking ball with low percentage kicks.

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      • SmutsS Smuts

        @Catogrande said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

        @Bones

        It would be good to see stats for the number of shit kicks per game. Pretty sure England would top that list too 😟

        On an absolute basis, maybe.

        But plenty of supposedly attacking teams put up a huge number of ale-house balls. back & midBarrett, Mounga and Jordan all hoofed and hoped with overlaps in the final.

        And Kriel’s worst play of the RWC was his shocking effort after Kwagga’s turnover.

        I was many beers in but I also vaguely recall one of the Irish players putting up a nothing kick right at the death when he had space to exploit. You could almost see his gears stripping as he tried and failed to come up with anything better to do. Pressure’s a bastard.

        It’s a long while ago now but Scotland probably were the worst wasters of good attacking ball with low percentage kicks.

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        @Smuts Some stand outs there for sure but when we're talking sheer weight of numbers...

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        • BonesB Bones

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          @Bones said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

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          I think a better stat would be "kicks per minute of possession".

          After all, if your opposition isn't going to kick it back to you, or there are a lot of stoppages, you're unlikely to have the same opportunity to kick.

          I saw this stat before the Semifinal and it was quite low for the Boks BUT also need to keep in mind that, in their pools:

          1. Running over Romania meant less kicking and much more dead time due to tries and conversions.
          2. Smashing Tonga (17 kicks per game mind) meant less kicking
          3. Ireland and Scotland played high-possession rugby, so the Boks have less time or inclination to kick.

          Context.

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          • NTAN NTA

            @Bones said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

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            I think a better stat would be "kicks per minute of possession".

            After all, if your opposition isn't going to kick it back to you, or there are a lot of stoppages, you're unlikely to have the same opportunity to kick.

            I saw this stat before the Semifinal and it was quite low for the Boks BUT also need to keep in mind that, in their pools:

            1. Running over Romania meant less kicking and much more dead time due to tries and conversions.
            2. Smashing Tonga (17 kicks per game mind) meant less kicking
            3. Ireland and Scotland played high-possession rugby, so the Boks have less time or inclination to kick.

            Context.

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            @NTA

            All good points but you’re not denying us our moment of glory. We are top of the table. It’s a matter of record.

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              Interestingly if you asked the casual observer who were the most exciting teams to watch in the RWC then many would say NZ, France, Portugal

              And all 3 are in the top 6 of kicking

              Context is everything

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              • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                Interestingly if you asked the casual observer who were the most exciting teams to watch in the RWC then many would say NZ, France, Portugal

                And all 3 are in the top 6 of kicking

                Context is everything

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                @MiketheSnow said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                Interestingly if you asked the casual observer who were the most exciting teams to watch in the RWC then many would say NZ, France, Portugal

                And all 3 are in the top 6 of kicking

                Context is everything

                Have to assume it's what they do between the kicks.

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                • boobooB booboo

                  @MiketheSnow said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                  Interestingly if you asked the casual observer who were the most exciting teams to watch in the RWC then many would say NZ, France, Portugal

                  And all 3 are in the top 6 of kicking

                  Context is everything

                  Have to assume it's what they do between the kicks.

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                  taniwharugby
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                  @booboo you mean score tries 😉

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    @booboo you mean score tries 😉

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                    @taniwharugby said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                    @booboo you mean score tries 😉

                    Except for Portugal

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                    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                      @taniwharugby said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                      @booboo you mean score tries 😉

                      Except for Portugal

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                      #1178

                      @MiketheSnow I expect they were at least trying to though 🙂

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                        Hearing now that Tuilagi broke a bone in his hand v Samoa and had a plate inserted. Then they played him three times in the next three weeks. Re-broke it v Argentina. Club coach Sanderson is not best amused.

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                        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                          @Dodge said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                          https://twitter.com/maanomadima/status/1718578252187365686

                          Well this is a perfect fucking summary of what happened in this tournament. Flats is a top journalist / pundit. I hated thinking he was right the first time I saw this, I wanted France or Ireland to go all the way (I never thought we had a chance), but fuck me the simplicity of this message is perfect

                          Hopefully by the next RWC cycle Pougach will be fucking put out to pasture and Flats will be running the show

                          He's brilliant

                          And funny as fuck too

                          If you have a chance to see him live, do it

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                          @MiketheSnow said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                          @Dodge said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                          https://twitter.com/maanomadima/status/1718578252187365686

                          Well this is a perfect fucking summary of what happened in this tournament. Flats is a top journalist / pundit. I hated thinking he was right the first time I saw this, I wanted France or Ireland to go all the way (I never thought we had a chance), but fuck me the simplicity of this message is perfect

                          Hopefully by the next RWC cycle Pougach will be fucking put out to pasture and Flats will be running the show

                          He's brilliant

                          And funny as fuck too

                          If you have a chance to see him live, do it

                          I discovered Flatman during this world cup by listening to his podcast with Tom Shanklin. You're right, he's absolutely brilliant, most talented pundit I've come across in rugby for ages. What a breath of fresh air for a game that is becoming increasingly tedious and frustrating to follow.

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                            Some interesting stats

                            https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/133353901/worrying-signs-as-offloads-and-ballinplay-time-fall-at-rugby-world-cup--and-tackles-soar

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                              Some interesting stats

                              https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/133353901/worrying-signs-as-offloads-and-ballinplay-time-fall-at-rugby-world-cup--and-tackles-soar

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                              @Machpants said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                              Some interesting stats

                              https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/133353901/worrying-signs-as-offloads-and-ballinplay-time-fall-at-rugby-world-cup--and-tackles-soar

                              We cross now to WR HQ:
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                              • M Machpants

                                Some interesting stats

                                https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/133353901/worrying-signs-as-offloads-and-ballinplay-time-fall-at-rugby-world-cup--and-tackles-soar

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                                @Machpants so in 87, they were offloading in two out of every three tackles? Hmmm

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @Machpants so in 87, they were offloading in two out of every three tackles? Hmmm

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                                  @Bones said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                                  @Machpants so in 87, they were offloading in two out of every three tackles? Hmmm

                                  Per completed tackle

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                                  • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                    Interestingly if you asked the casual observer who were the most exciting teams to watch in the RWC then many would say NZ, France, Portugal

                                    And all 3 are in the top 6 of kicking

                                    Context is everything

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                                    @MiketheSnow said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                                    Interestingly if you asked the casual observer who were the most exciting teams to watch in the RWC then many would say NZ, France, Portugal

                                    And all 3 are in the top 6 of kicking

                                    > Context is everything

                                    Except on the Fern!

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                                      One of those "which thread do I put this on?" posts so feel free to move.

                                      The boss of Spanish Rugby announced in his Christmas message that they are bidding to host the 2035 Men's Rugby World Cup.

                                      https://twitter.com/ferugby/status/2004128593723773285?s=46

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                                      • sparkyS sparky

                                        One of those "which thread do I put this on?" posts so feel free to move.

                                        The boss of Spanish Rugby announced in his Christmas message that they are bidding to host the 2035 Men's Rugby World Cup.

                                        https://twitter.com/ferugby/status/2004128593723773285?s=46

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                                        @sparky said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:

                                        One of those "which thread do I put this on?" posts so feel free to move.

                                        The boss of Spanish Rugby announced in his Christmas message that they are bidding to host the 2035 Men's Rugby World Cup.

                                        https://twitter.com/ferugby/status/2004128593723773285?s=46

                                        I live in Spain so I endorse this plan wholeheartedly.

                                        Hasta La Victoria Siempre.

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                                          #1188

                                          England to be based in Tenerife.

                                          Edit: or Russia.

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