Rugby World Cup general discussion
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@mariner4life said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
Possible Unpopular Opinion
The tournament suffers as a spectacle by only having games on the weekend.
Agree. One of us or France should be playing again tonight, or possibly yesterday.
Squads of 33, use them.
@MajorRage said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
@mariner4life said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
Possible Unpopular Opinion
The tournament suffers as a spectacle by only having games on the weekend.
Agree. One of us or France should be playing again tonight, or possibly yesterday.
Squads of 33, use them.
It’s very stop start alrite. There is a two week break in there somewhere too right?
We need games every two days so Sexton ends up in the knackers yard.
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@NTA said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
May be premature
An Aussie mate messaged me saying Topou will play
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@NTA said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
https://twitter.com/ultimaterugby/status/1702257373627207703
Needed this like a hole in the head. Poor guy.
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@NTA said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
https://twitter.com/ultimaterugby/status/1702257373627207703
Needed this like a hole in the head. Poor guy.
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@Daffy-Jaffy said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
That's not a 'difference between Tier 1 and Tier 2' story, that's a 'World Rugby Fails Tier 2 nations' with inadequate resources at the most critical time
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whoever thought only games on weekends and bye weeks was a great idea for a tournament needs shooting.
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whoever thought only games on weekends and bye weeks was a great idea for a tournament needs shooting.
@mariner4life said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
whoever thought only games on weekends and bye weeks was a great idea for a tournament needs shooting.
That can only be addressed with more teams participating. The outrage from minnows having to backup within a short window ensured that we'd only have games on the weekend.
Four pools of six teams, with seeding done after the traditional EOY tours the year preceding.
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@mariner4life said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
whoever thought only games on weekends and bye weeks was a great idea for a tournament needs shooting.
That can only be addressed with more teams participating. The outrage from minnows having to backup within a short window ensured that we'd only have games on the weekend.
Four pools of six teams, with seeding done after the traditional EOY tours the year preceding.
@antipodean said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
@mariner4life said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
whoever thought only games on weekends and bye weeks was a great idea for a tournament needs shooting.
That can only be addressed with more teams participating. The outrage from minnows having to backup within a short window ensured that we'd only have games on the weekend.
Four pools of six teams, with seeding done after the traditional EOY tours the year preceding.
No. That cannot "only" be addressed by tournament team numbers.
They 'fixed' the minnow outrage in 2019.
Where everyone got 1 short turnaround each.
Previously. 2003 to 2015, the short turnaround were overwhelmingly stacked against the minnows. Which was when the whining was occurring.
Although, it is true that a totally fair draw can only come with an expansion to 24 or 32.
However. The abysmal scheduling should not get a free pass just because they've rightly ditched the 03-15 scheduling bias, but chosen a more shitty 1999ish weekend weighting rather than just rehashing the hugely successful '19 template.
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@antipodean said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
@mariner4life said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
whoever thought only games on weekends and bye weeks was a great idea for a tournament needs shooting.
That can only be addressed with more teams participating. The outrage from minnows having to backup within a short window ensured that we'd only have games on the weekend.
Four pools of six teams, with seeding done after the traditional EOY tours the year preceding.
No. That cannot "only" be addressed by tournament team numbers.
They 'fixed' the minnow outrage in 2019.
Where everyone got 1 short turnaround each.
Previously. 2003 to 2015, the short turnaround were overwhelmingly stacked against the minnows. Which was when the whining was occurring.
Although, it is true that a totally fair draw can only come with an expansion to 24 or 32.
However. The abysmal scheduling should not get a free pass just because they've rightly ditched the 03-15 scheduling bias, but chosen a more shitty 1999ish weekend weighting rather than just rehashing the hugely successful '19 template.
@Rapido said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
@antipodean said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
@mariner4life said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
whoever thought only games on weekends and bye weeks was a great idea for a tournament needs shooting.
That can only be addressed with more teams participating. The outrage from minnows having to backup within a short window ensured that we'd only have games on the weekend.
Four pools of six teams, with seeding done after the traditional EOY tours the year preceding.
No. That cannot "only" be addressed by tournament team numbers.
They 'fixed' tjeminnow outrage in 2019.
Where everyone got 1 short turnaround each.
Well we don't know with certainty because of the abandoned matches. Would Namibia have finally secured a win against Canada for example?
I still think the simple solution is more teams, which in turn helps grow the sport too.
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@Rapido said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
@antipodean said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
@mariner4life said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
whoever thought only games on weekends and bye weeks was a great idea for a tournament needs shooting.
That can only be addressed with more teams participating. The outrage from minnows having to backup within a short window ensured that we'd only have games on the weekend.
Four pools of six teams, with seeding done after the traditional EOY tours the year preceding.
No. That cannot "only" be addressed by tournament team numbers.
They 'fixed' tjeminnow outrage in 2019.
Where everyone got 1 short turnaround each.
Well we don't know with certainty because of the abandoned matches. Would Namibia have finally secured a win against Canada for example?
I still think the simple solution is more teams, which in turn helps grow the sport too.
@antipodean said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
I still think the simple solution is more teams, which in turn helps grow the sport too.
Agreed.
Have 4 pools of 6, a 5-8 day turnaround schedule for everyone stacked roughly the same, and keep things rolling every night.
Also makes for more games between minnows, which is more awesomeness IMHO. And a shot at a RWC win for someone.
Will be at least another 2 RWC - and a shitload of investment - before we're ready for 8 pools of 4.
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@Daffy-Jaffy said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
That's not a 'difference between Tier 1 and Tier 2' story, that's a 'World Rugby Fails Tier 2 nations' with inadequate resources at the most critical time
@MiketheSnow said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
That's not a 'difference between Tier 1 and Tier 2' story, that's a 'World Rugby Fails Tier 2 nations' with inadequate resources at the most critical time
I don't think so. They get huge WR resources thrown at them "at the most critical time". During the RWC and the 'x' months build up. The training camps and build-up test for the T2 teams that have qualified, are paid for by WR.
While the article or headline might read like Tonga are travelling around France washing their own kit and buying their own balls ... . What the article is actually reporting is Piutatu's general experiences with Tonga - e.g.maybe about 6 months ago during a Tonga training camp, or 1 year ago during a November international test match, that the TRU supplied their own players & staff with jack-all.
e.g. From the article.
Fekitoa had said before Tonga’s first World Cup game that being in France and supplied with the best equipment had led to “the best few weeks for us” in training, adding “we get things like everyone else now, in a nice hotel, better balls, better food.”
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Fucken what? Good old rugbypass.
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/hits-a-little-bit-different-luatua-on-manu-samoa-win/
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Fucken what? Good old rugbypass.
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/hits-a-little-bit-different-luatua-on-manu-samoa-win/
@Bones said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
Fucken what? Good old rugbypass.
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/hits-a-little-bit-different-luatua-on-manu-samoa-win/
Some NZers called the UK 'home' well into the 50s and 60s
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@Bones said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
Fucken what? Good old rugbypass.
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/hits-a-little-bit-different-luatua-on-manu-samoa-win/
Some NZers called the UK 'home' well into the 50s and 60s
@Machpants said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
Some NZers called the UK 'home' well into the 50s and 60s
I think the issue @bones was highlighting is Rugbypass, not Luatua, his comments were fine, as it appears he didn't make the home country statement.
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@Machpants said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
Yeah I guess he said my culture not home
He's born in Auckland.
But yeah my culture loves kibbeh. My home? Not so much.
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@Machpants said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
Yeah I guess he said my culture not home
He's born in Auckland.
But yeah my culture loves kibbeh. My home? Not so much.
@Bones said in Rugby World Cup general discussion:
But yeah my culture loves kibbeh. My home? Not so much.
Perhaps if your home smelt more like kibbeh your culture would like your home more.
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In a fit of enthusiasm I’ve pulled the trigger on taking my two lads (12 & eight) to the Paris quarters & semis.
Welcome suggestions on a rugby bucket list. So far I’ve got:
- tell Sir Clive flaccidward to GFH
- start a spontaneous touch game
- congratulate Barnes on his fine reffing in the 07 QF
- teach a hot, overemotional fan to spin pass
- swap jerseys with a kiwi/French kid
- sidestep a gendarme
- have a yarn with a former great (anyone know if Glenn Osbourne’s gonna be kicking around?)
- get interviewed by a TV reporter
- meet some players in this years tourney
- remind Former player of the RWC and wallaby legend Timmmy Horan that he’s the master of the marginally forward pass
- make a pact
Also taking suggestions on their fancy dress for the Scotland France QF
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In a fit of enthusiasm I’ve pulled the trigger on taking my two lads (12 & eight) to the Paris quarters & semis.
Welcome suggestions on a rugby bucket list. So far I’ve got:
- tell Sir Clive flaccidward to GFH
- start a spontaneous touch game
- congratulate Barnes on his fine reffing in the 07 QF
- teach a hot, overemotional fan to spin pass
- swap jerseys with a kiwi/French kid
- sidestep a gendarme
- have a yarn with a former great (anyone know if Glenn Osbourne’s gonna be kicking around?)
- get interviewed by a TV reporter
- meet some players in this years tourney
- remind Former player of the RWC and wallaby legend Timmmy Horan that he’s the master of the marginally forward pass
- make a pact
Also taking suggestions on their fancy dress for the Scotland France QF
