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Blues v Brumbies

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    For me the moment that stands out the most is in the 35th min when BoK was giving Dalton another discipline warning and Paps responded by asking if he could talk to the team? Mate, that horse left the stable about 30 mins ago. Goodness me.

    Has to be Beauden’s worst game in SR. Excuse my hyperbole.

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    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

      @nzzp I thought Christie got a bit rattled. And then the errors/bad decisions started piling up. I like how he plays and he’s a tough bugger, but they needed to speed the game up and I thought Christie was a bit of a handbrake.

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      @ACT-Crusader said in Blues v Brumbies:

      @nzzp I thought Christie got a bit rattled. And then the errors/bad decisions started piling up. I like how he plays and he’s a tough bugger, but they needed to speed the game up and I thought Christie was a bit of a handbrake.

      It seemed to me he was clearing out rucks (often first there) and trying to support players in collisions, work that bigger bodies with that mahi in their contract should have been doing.... I thought he did alright considering the lack of support.

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        How many times has Reiko blown try’s with pure selfish plays, this one cost the game. Add it to the pile.

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        • StagS Stag

          How many times has Reiko blown try’s with pure selfish plays, this one cost the game. Add it to the pile.

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          @Stag said in Blues v Brumbies:

          How many times has Reiko blown try’s with pure selfish plays, this one cost the game. Add it to the pile.

          I wouldn't call it selfish. He still sometimes struggles to know when to pass and how to adjust his line and speed to put others in space.

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          • StagS Stag

            How many times has Reiko blown try’s with pure selfish plays, this one cost the game. Add it to the pile.

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            @Stag said in Blues v Brumbies:

            How many times has Reiko blown try’s with pure selfish plays, this one cost the game. Add it to the pile.

            Offset by how many he creates with pace and physicality.

            On balance, still the best center in NZ, despite his occasional lapse

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            • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

              @Stag said in Blues v Brumbies:

              How many times has Reiko blown try’s with pure selfish plays, this one cost the game. Add it to the pile.

              I wouldn't call it selfish. He still sometimes struggles to know when to pass and how to adjust his line and speed to put others in space.

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              @Crazy-Horse giving him the benefit of doubt, the high angle you could see why he probably thought he shouldnt pass as there would have been a defender in his peripheral, although I dont think he would have been able to stop it, especially if he had just turned in slightly and then given the pass

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              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                @Crazy-Horse giving him the benefit of doubt, the high angle you could see why he probably thought he shouldnt pass as there would have been a defender in his peripheral, although I dont think he would have been able to stop it, especially if he had just turned in slightly and then given the pass

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                @taniwharugby actually think anyone who watched game should of seen what happened when RTS was in almost identical position in first half he passed and Brumbies player coming back intercepted it.

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                  Could have passed earlier and stayed available IMO.

                  Reiko is a third floating winger more than a midfielder. Distributing and setting up others isn’t his strong point.

                  He may still be our best option at 13 though.

                  Would still be keen to see JB, ALB with RI on the wing

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                    We lost that game up front. You know what the Brumbies are bringing: penalties, particularly scrum penalties and lineout drives. Our tight 5 were well off the pace, particularly in the scrum. Nepo looked slow and off the pace, like he normally does.

                    Tight 5 is where the ab weakness is at the moment. Oppositions are making meters at will, and it wrecks us.

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                    • nzzpN nzzp

                      We lost that game up front. You know what the Brumbies are bringing: penalties, particularly scrum penalties and lineout drives. Our tight 5 were well off the pace, particularly in the scrum. Nepo looked slow and off the pace, like he normally does.

                      Tight 5 is where the ab weakness is at the moment. Oppositions are making meters at will, and it wrecks us.

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                      @nzzp said in Blues v Brumbies:

                      Tight 5 is where the ab weakness is at the moment. Oppositions are making meters at will, and it wrecks us.

                      DeGroot and Lomax are just fine.
                      I agree the Blues tight 5 has serious issues.

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                        @nzzp said in Blues v Brumbies:

                        Tight 5 is where the ab weakness is at the moment. Oppositions are making meters at will, and it wrecks us.

                        DeGroot and Lomax are just fine.
                        I agree the Blues tight 5 has serious issues.

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                        @Frank they b at world cup not impressed with de Groot at all

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                        • nzzpN nzzp

                          We lost that game up front. You know what the Brumbies are bringing: penalties, particularly scrum penalties and lineout drives. Our tight 5 were well off the pace, particularly in the scrum. Nepo looked slow and off the pace, like he normally does.

                          Tight 5 is where the ab weakness is at the moment. Oppositions are making meters at will, and it wrecks us.

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                          @nzzp said in Blues v Brumbies:

                          We lost that game up front. You know what the Brumbies are bringing: penalties, particularly scrum penalties and lineout drives. Our tight 5 were well off the pace, particularly in the scrum. Nepo looked slow and off the pace, like he normally does.

                          Tight 5 is where the ab weakness is at the moment. Oppositions are making meters at will, and it wrecks us.

                          That has got to be the understatement of the year. That was an embarrassing performance, the coaches were bloody arrogant to suggest that Blues Tight 5 could do the job. If this is Tito's influence he can fuck off back to the Naki.
                          They were weak, got bullied and were non-existant at the breakdown. Scrum time was ridiculous, and the amount of times the Brumbies held up our ball carriers???? I mean fark me !!!!!

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                          • nzzpN nzzp

                            We lost that game up front. You know what the Brumbies are bringing: penalties, particularly scrum penalties and lineout drives. Our tight 5 were well off the pace, particularly in the scrum. Nepo looked slow and off the pace, like he normally does.

                            Tight 5 is where the ab weakness is at the moment. Oppositions are making meters at will, and it wrecks us.

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                            @nzzp said in Blues v Brumbies:

                            We lost that game up front. You know what the Brumbies are bringing: penalties, particularly scrum penalties and lineout drives. Our tight 5 were well off the pace, particularly in the scrum. Nepo looked slow and off the pace, like he normally does.

                            Tight 5 is where the ab weakness is at the moment. Oppositions are making meters at will, and it wrecks us.

                            Not entirely sure that is the case now with the right players in place.

                            The main reason it looks that was is because there are a couple of very good teams out there at targeting the inside shoulder. That gets that extra half metre and has us moving back. First we need more speed (which EDG, Lomax, ST provide) then a technique adjustment (probably feet positioning). Second line D is solid if they run straight but we are still searching for an agile dominant 6

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                              Love the optimism.

                              Not one word about the second row... Hopefully the Renaissance of Sam and Brodie is enough, but I'm cautious after plenty of optimism in the past

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                                Love the optimism.

                                Not one word about the second row... Hopefully the Renaissance of Sam and Brodie is enough, but I'm cautious after plenty of optimism in the past

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                                @nzzp I think at times they showed they still had it, but was a lack of consistency and I think for SW & BR it will be about load management to ensure they are both able to and actually firing on all cylinders, which means not resting them too much, but not overplaying them either.

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                                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                  @nzzp I think at times they showed they still had it, but was a lack of consistency and I think for SW & BR it will be about load management to ensure they are both able to and actually firing on all cylinders, which means not resting them too much, but not overplaying them either.

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                                  @taniwharugby said in Blues v Brumbies:

                                  @nzzp I think at times they showed they still had it, but was a lack of consistency and I think for SW & BR it will be about load management to ensure they are both able to and actually firing on all cylinders, which means not resting them too much, but not overplaying them either.

                                  Definitely think they will get load managed this year. Last year’s situation probably screwed up some depth plans but Vaa’i is improving all the time and will probably get more test match time. If we find a 6 then Barrett is the other lock.

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                                  • CrucialC Crucial

                                    Could have passed earlier and stayed available IMO.

                                    Reiko is a third floating winger more than a midfielder. Distributing and setting up others isn’t his strong point.

                                    He may still be our best option at 13 though.

                                    Would still be keen to see JB, ALB with RI on the wing

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                                    @Crucial said in Blues v Brumbies:

                                    Could have passed earlier and stayed available IMO.

                                    Reiko is a third floating winger more than a midfielder. Distributing and setting up others isn’t his strong point.

                                    He may still be our best option at 13 though.

                                    Would still be keen to see JB, ALB with RI on the wing

                                    I really wanted to see Caleb get a good extended run in the 11 jersey because I thought he would be the answer with reiko at 13 , now I’m not so sure .

                                    Maybe reiko is our best 11 after all

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                                      @Crucial said in Blues v Brumbies:

                                      Could have passed earlier and stayed available IMO.

                                      Reiko is a third floating winger more than a midfielder. Distributing and setting up others isn’t his strong point.

                                      He may still be our best option at 13 though.

                                      Would still be keen to see JB, ALB with RI on the wing

                                      I really wanted to see Caleb get a good extended run in the 11 jersey because I thought he would be the answer with reiko at 13 , now I’m not so sure .

                                      Maybe reiko is our best 11 after all

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                                      @kiwiinmelb said in Blues v Brumbies:

                                      Maybe reiko is our best 11 after all

                                      He always has been hasn't he? Well aside from that time Hansen decided Bridge was ...

                                      It's just that he's also our current best centre because our options are in flux at the moment.

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                                        The issue with Rieko at 11 is that he is serviceable under the high ball rather than good and has no boot.

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          The issue with Rieko at 11 is that he is serviceable under the high ball rather than good and has no boot.

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                                          @KiwiMurph i reckon they invested to much time with Reiko at 13 both at Super and All Black level to change him around

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