Blackcaps v Sri Lanka
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A stats(s).
Since Ross Taylor's retirement. Henry Nicholls has averaged 23.78, in the 8 test matches. So, since he has moved up to number 4 to replace Ross.
He scored a century in that first test after Ross.
Since that test, he has averaged 17.53 in the next 7 tests as the senior batsman stepping up a role to fill that more senior number 4 position.
A lot of those matches have been without Kane, so makes his role harder, but also makes his seniority more important, and his lack of output more damaging.This hasn't been noticed too much IMO, because Darryl Mitchell has replaced the runs of peak Ross, if not the exact batting position.
The other factor obscuring this is that Ross Taylor also had a declining output at number in his final year to averaging 26. HIs final 2 years averaging 29. -
@MN5 said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:
That’s a real surprise that Adams is that high, he was a really exciting player, I wish he’d played way more than he did. Can anyone remember why he didn’t ?
I'm with you. An absolute talent - maybe personality clashes? Someone will have teh inside oil I'm sure
@MN5 said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:
That’s a real surprise that Adams is that high, he was a really exciting player, I wish he’d played way more than he did. Can anyone remember why he didn’t ?
Bracewell favoured Oram and Franklin in the allrounder role. Not terrible decisions.
Adams was selected and pidgeon-holed as an ODI player, when he was actually a much better red-ball player.
Defintely worth a go in tests as specialist bowler, rather than allrounder, in the late 00s, in hindsight.
He moved to play in England as he had a passport that meant he could play county cricket as a local.Was bowling coach of NSW or one of the Sydney bash teams, last I heard (after about 1 season as Auckland bowling coach). A real loss (to NZ) on the coaching front I hear.
Edit. He did an interview on The Top Order podcast a year or 2 ago, that I listened to. Was good. Would answer your question more fully.
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@MN5 said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:
That’s a real surprise that Adams is that high, he was a really exciting player, I wish he’d played way more than he did. Can anyone remember why he didn’t ?
Bracewell favoured Oram and Franklin in the allrounder role. Not terrible decisions.
Adams was selected and pidgeon-holed as an ODI player, when he was actually a much better red-ball player.
Defintely worth a go in tests as specialist bowler, rather than allrounder, in the late 00s, in hindsight.
He moved to play in England as he had a passport that meant he could play county cricket as a local.Was bowling coach of NSW or one of the Sydney bash teams, last I heard (after about 1 season as Auckland bowling coach). A real loss (to NZ) on the coaching front I hear.
Edit. He did an interview on The Top Order podcast a year or 2 ago, that I listened to. Was good. Would answer your question more fully.
@Rapido said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:
@MN5 said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:
That’s a real surprise that Adams is that high, he was a really exciting player, I wish he’d played way more than he did. Can anyone remember why he didn’t ?
Bracewell favoured Oram and Franklin in the allrounder role. Not terrible decisions.
Adams was selected and pidgeon-holed as an ODI player, when he was actually a much better red-ball player.
Defintely worth a go in tests as specialist bowler, rather than allrounder, in the late 00s, in hindsight.
He moved to play in England as he had a passport that meant he could play county cricket as a local.Was bowling coach of NSW or one of the Sydney bash teams, last I heard (after about 1 season as Auckland bowling coach). A real loss (to NZ) on the coaching front I hear.
Yeah he kinda gave away the bowling to focus on his batting which I reckon wasn’t a good decision ( apparently Paddles said he was like a left handed version of himself early on ).
Went from being a very good bowler who could bat a bit to being a typical bits and pieces BC all rounder.
Interesting about Adams, took a few wickets in his only test.
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@MN5 said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:
That’s a real surprise that Adams is that high, he was a really exciting player, I wish he’d played way more than he did. Can anyone remember why he didn’t ?
Bracewell favoured Oram and Franklin in the allrounder role. Not terrible decisions.
Adams was selected and pidgeon-holed as an ODI player, when he was actually a much better red-ball player.
Defintely worth a go in tests as specialist bowler, rather than allrounder, in the late 00s, in hindsight.
He moved to play in England as he had a passport that meant he could play county cricket as a local.Was bowling coach of NSW or one of the Sydney bash teams, last I heard (after about 1 season as Auckland bowling coach). A real loss (to NZ) on the coaching front I hear.
Edit. He did an interview on The Top Order podcast a year or 2 ago, that I listened to. Was good. Would answer your question more fully.
@Rapido said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:
@MN5 said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:
That’s a real surprise that Adams is that high, he was a really exciting player, I wish he’d played way more than he did. Can anyone remember why he didn’t ?
Bracewell favoured Oram and Franklin in the allrounder role. Not terrible decisions.
Adams was selected and pidgeon-holed as an ODI player, when he was actually a much better red-ball player.
Defintely worth a go in tests as specialist bowler, rather than allrounder, in the late 00s, in hindsight.
He moved to play in England as he had a passport that meant he could play county cricket as a local.Was bowling coach of NSW or one of the Sydney bash teams, last I heard (after about 1 season as Auckland bowling coach). A real loss (to NZ) on the coaching front I hear.
Assistant bowling coach at the Sydney Sixers and NSW bowling coach.
I know Mitch Starc rated him highly he helped out when he was struggling last season.
Starc spends sometime at the HPC here in Brisbane.
When his wife is up visiting the Uncles. -
Interesting bowling figures.
Outstanding from Southee and Henry with fuck all support from anyone else by the looks.
I hope one of them gets a Michelle, the two batsmen having a combined average of 7 should definitely help.
Very, very ugly from Tickner ( and I’m not talking about his creepy mo )
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Interesting bowling figures.
Outstanding from Southee and Henry with fuck all support from anyone else by the looks.
I hope one of them gets a Michelle, the two batsmen having a combined average of 7 should definitely help.
Very, very ugly from Tickner ( and I’m not talking about his creepy mo )
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@MN5 I'd hope they just keep bowling Southee/Henry until the wicket. Make a race for the Michelle.
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Clearly miss Boult, when we lose Southee that will be the time we revert to overly green decks lol.. well done Southee on the 5 wickets. 355 all out
Henry also did well but gap to next best seamer on 1st innings deck is significant if Tickner is the answer.
Wagner doesn't get the grief from me that others are giving, his role is not/should not be in that space. Why he was asked to bowl Wagnerball early was a real surprise. When he bowled fuller later he was ok and had a couple of opportunities late yesterday that fell near fielders instead of to them. It was clear listening to Flem this morning that he completely agrees.
But as a unit probably not good enough SL getting an above average 1st innings total on this pitch and wishing they probably had an extra batsman right now
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Clearly miss Boult, when we lose Southee that will be the time we revert to overly green decks lol.. well done Southee on the 5 wickets. 355 all out
Henry also did well but gap to next best seamer on 1st innings deck is significant if Tickner is the answer.
Wagner doesn't get the grief from me that others are giving, his role is not/should not be in that space. Why he was asked to bowl Wagnerball early was a real surprise. When he bowled fuller later he was ok and had a couple of opportunities late yesterday that fell near fielders instead of to them. It was clear listening to Flem this morning that he completely agrees.
But as a unit probably not good enough SL getting an above average 1st innings total on this pitch and wishing they probably had an extra batsman right now
@bayimports said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:
Wagner doesn't get the grief from me that others are giving,
not grief, sadness
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@Donsteppa said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:
Especially when, on current player depth, Wags will have to keep going until he's 45...
Indeed, a guy like Tickner even getting a look in screams of how shallow our depth pool is now.
We can’t get big Kyle Jamieson back fast enough.
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Latham needs to have one of his significantly large home innings right now, I cant see him and Devon being on 200/0 later today though..no chance
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Latham needs to have one of his significantly large home innings right now, I cant see him and Devon being on 200/0 later today though..no chance
@bayimports said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:
Latham needs to have one of his significantly large home innings right now, I cant see him and Devon being on 200/0 later today though..no chance
I’m looking forward to this being a massive reverse jinx.
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that was close
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The last four batsmen for Sri Lanka all got their highest test scores.
Gosh I love the way cricket throws up quirky stats like that.
They all rival Chris Martin by the looks of things. A number eight batsman should average around 20 ideally, not four !
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@MN5 said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:
The last four batsmen for Sri Lanka all got their highest test scores.
Hopefully, that bodes well for our batsmen.
@Chris-B said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:
@MN5 said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:
The last four batsmen for Sri Lanka all got their highest test scores.
Hopefully, that bodes well for our batsmen.
Southee beats his best score again? that would be fun to watch lol
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Interesting to see Andre Adams right up this First Class wickets list. Chat's average is a good reminder that Hadlee didn't take lots of wickets just 'because no-one at the other end' at the top level.
@Donsteppa said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:
Interesting to see Andre Adams right up this First Class wickets list. Chat's average is a good reminder that Hadlee didn't take lots of wickets just 'because no-one at the other end' at the top level.
Im sure Payne will post soon, but Latham now second only NZ opener to reach 5000 test runs
Shout out to Payne for that fantastic EPL jersey lol
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@Donsteppa said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:
Interesting to see Andre Adams right up this First Class wickets list. Chat's average is a good reminder that Hadlee didn't take lots of wickets just 'because no-one at the other end' at the top level.
Im sure Payne will post soon, but Latham now second only NZ opener to reach 5000 test runs
Shout out to Payne for that fantastic EPL jersey lol
@bayimports said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:
@Donsteppa said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:
Interesting to see Andre Adams right up this First Class wickets list. Chat's average is a good reminder that Hadlee didn't take lots of wickets just 'because no-one at the other end' at the top level.
Im sure Payne will post soon, but Latham now second only NZ opener to reach 5000 test runs
Shout out to Payne for that fantastic EPL jersey lol
John Wright first obviously given I’m fairly sure he opened his entire career. Who is third ? Scrolling down the list I’m assuming Glenn Turner then Mark Richardson.
It’s not a position we’ve had an abundance of talent in to be fair ( then again historically you could say that about every role )
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@bayimports said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:
Latham needs to have one of his significantly large home innings right now, I cant see him and Devon being on 200/0 later today though..no chance
I’m looking forward to this being a massive reverse jinx.
@MN5 said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:
@bayimports said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:
Latham needs to have one of his significantly large home innings right now, I cant see him and Devon being on 200/0 later today though..no chance
I’m looking forward to this being a massive reverse jinx.
You'll have a long wait ...
