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Blackcaps v Sri Lanka

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    For anyone interested - no commentary -

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      https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/sri-lanka-tour-of-new-zealand-2022-23-1322351/new-zealand-vs-sri-lanka-1st-test-1322357/match-preview

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        NZ chose to bowl first

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          Tickner comes in for Young

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            So Stead does change a winning team, but not where expected. Henry Nicholls status as a protected species continues.

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              oooh, that was a close review. Clipping top of the stumps, stays not out. Nice review, good bowling.

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                So Stead does change a winning team, but not where expected. Henry Nicholls status as a protected species continues.

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                @Donsteppa said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

                So Stead does change a winning team, but not where expected. Henry Nicholls status as a protected species continues.

                He is a luck so and so. Some guys just seem to get more rope than others. He has the swagger, swaggers to the middle then swaggers back to the pavilion....

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                  oooh, that was a close review. Clipping top of the stumps, stays not out. Nice review, good bowling.

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                  @nzzp said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

                  oooh, that was a close review. Clipping top of the stumps, stays not out. Nice review, good bowling.

                  Yep, a tense start for the Umpires as well as the players so far.

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                    Two unplayable ones, then a legside pie takes the wicket 🙂

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                      Southee's 'celebrappeal' has clearly been worked on.

                      Second wicket given; under review now. LBW from Southee, who's bowling well

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                        ooof, and too high. Big bounce - over the top

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                          SL getting on top. 107/1 after 22 overs.

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                            Christ Southee is certainly putting his mark on the team by 1. actually winning the toss every now and then, and 2. always choosing to bowl first at every opportunity.

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                              A proverbial session of two halves...

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                                Is Duffy really worse than Tickner?

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                                  I don't mind Wagnerball when appropriate, but first morning of a test match just seemed a waste. I don't blame Wagner either as he will be working to a plan

                                  Curiously we all know Southee got lucky by bowling first last time, but has he actually won a first innings?

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                                    Christ Southee is certainly putting his mark on the team by 1. actually winning the toss every now and then, and 2. always choosing to bowl first at every opportunity.

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                                    @No-Quarter said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

                                    Christ Southee is certainly putting his mark on the team by 1. actually winning the toss every now and then, and 2. always choosing to bowl first at every opportunity.

                                    I don't think this is putting his mark.

                                    Since 2016, CdG debut on the first NZ modern green-seamer we've seen at test level (E.g. ridiculously grassy in appearance, but actually quite benign). It has been standard.

                                    At home, we've bowled first 100% of the time when winning the toss for the last 8 seasons.

                                    Since 01 Jan 2016:
                                    d85f68c7-2767-4c51-8144-69bcd8336265-image.png Team Span Mat Won Lost Tied Draw W/L
                                    All tests: New Zealand 2016-2023 31 20 6 0 5 3.333
                                    NZ fielding first: New Zealand 2016-2023 19 13 2 0 4 6.5
                                    NZ winning toss and fielding first: New Zealand 2016-2023 15 12 1 0 2 12
                                    NZ winning toss New Zealand 2016-2023 15 12 1 0 2 12
                                    NZ loss the toss New Zealand 2016-2023 16 8 5 0 3 1.6

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                                      Actually, prior to that abritrary date I chose (The CdG debut). During the earlier half of that same decade NZ also used to almost always chose to bowl first at home. 18 out of 21 occasions (So, McCullum, Taylor captaincy period).

                                      Prior to that it was more 50%ish, except for another (not as extravagent) blip in the 1980s (17 out of 28) , when we had Hadlee.

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                                        Interesting I would have thought would need a robust bowling attack to back up such a decision, except during periods where wild green seamers meant we could get away with lesser talent. I would argue the current pitches matched with the bowling attack (no boult, jamieson etc) don't warrant the we did this before, so need to always do it decision

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                                          Interesting I would have thought would need a robust bowling attack to back up such a decision, except during periods where wild green seamers meant we could get away with lesser talent. I would argue the current pitches matched with the bowling attack (no boult, jamieson etc) don't warrant the we did this before, so need to always do it decision

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                                          @bayimports said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

                                          Interesting I would have thought would need a robust bowling attack to back up such a decision, except during periods where wild green seamers meant we could get away with lesser talent. I would argue the current pitches matched with the bowling attack (no boult, jamieson etc) don't warrant the we did this before, so need to always do it decision

                                          True. The team is a bit shit, the bowling talent has regressed, and the team very poorly coached/managed. That is a new reality that should be taken into account when making a decision upon winning the toss. As well as the pitch.

                                          But, in Southee's defence upon making a decision on the morning of each match. Look at the 11 he's been given. 4 seamers, and a part-time(ish) spinner.

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