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Blues v Waratahs

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  • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

    @Duluth said in Blues v Waratahs:

    @Crazy-Horse said in Blues v Waratahs:

    His only limitation would be pace. While he is no Goodhue, he isn't quick.

    Yeah he's quick enough but he's not fast.

    I think that's less of an issue at fullback because he's running onto the ball, plus he picks great lines when joining the backline. His running game is more about angles and power. NZ sides all play a similar style and we generally have tens with a lot of acceleration, he doesn't really fit that mould

    Agree, he is quick enough for most situations.

    Zarn is probably my favourite 'young' player going around NZ at the moment. I think he has test player written all over him. He seems to have 'time' about him and like someone said above, he makes things look easy. He reminds me so much of Dan Carter in that regard.

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    @Crazy-Horse

    This is a reel from last year on Zarn and his brother Bailyn. Remember the drop goal he scored against the Tahs last year in an understrength Blues outfit, very much a clutchplay.

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      @Crazy-Horse

      This is a reel from last year on Zarn and his brother Bailyn. Remember the drop goal he scored against the Tahs last year in an understrength Blues outfit, very much a clutchplay.

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      @SBW1 said in Blues v Waratahs:

      This is a reel from last year on Zarn and his brother Bailyn. Remember the drop goal he scored against the Tahs last year in an understrength Blues outfit, very much a clutchplay.

      He's superb. Injuries and a lack of NPC has counted against him. Made for tests and Super I reckon.

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        @Tim said in Blues v Waratahs:

        Missed the second half, how has Akira Ioane gone?

        Some good stuff. Physical impact.

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        @KiwiMurph said in Blues v Waratahs:

        @Tim said in Blues v Waratahs:

        Missed the second half, how has Akira Ioane gone?

        Some good stuff. Physical impact.

        Good to see his low body position on the clean out. Also good driving work for Darry's try.

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          Zarn's ceiling is much higher than Perofeta, who doesn't appear to be anything more than a good Super rugby player and back up at international level.

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            @Crazy-Horse

            This is a reel from last year on Zarn and his brother Bailyn. Remember the drop goal he scored against the Tahs last year in an understrength Blues outfit, very much a clutchplay.

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            @SBW1 said in Blues v Waratahs:

            @Crazy-Horse

            This is a reel from last year on Zarn and his brother Bailyn. Remember the drop goal he scored against the Tahs last year in an understrength Blues outfit, very much a clutchplay.

            Lot of promise.
            Hmm, his brother seems a little faster?
            And Ardie is faster than Telea?!

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              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300860221/blues-lose-all-blacks-pair-to-injury-as-super-rugby-pacific-surge-continues

              The Blues got big shifts out of their power runners, with clear intent to get the ball to Caleb Clarke (192 metres, six defenders beaten, seven clean breaks), Mark Telea (87m, four tackle-busts and two breaks), Rieko Ioane (86m) and replacement fullback Zarn Sullivan (71m, four defenders beaten). Beauden Barrett also made ground with ball in hand (83m on the carry), as did No 8 Hoskins Sotutu (99m, four tackle-breaks).

              MacDonald said the former Canes rake’s mobility was giving him the selection edge over young comer Soane Vikena and Kurt Eklund at No 2. “He’s getting big numbers in the tackle, carries and cleans, and his workrate has been outstanding. He’s also been more physical in the contact area as well.”

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              • boobooB booboo

                Am watching on delay.

                Am liking Zarn muchly

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                @booboo said in Blues v Waratahs:

                Am watching on delay.

                Am liking Zarn muchly

                Am watching a little more soberer...

                But jeez Zarn is good.

                This year's NMS?

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                  Comment by TJ ...

                  Advancing ahead of the kicker is "a very technical penalty".

                  Bollocks.

                  It's fucking cheating.

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                  • boobooB booboo

                    @booboo said in Blues v Waratahs:

                    Am watching on delay.

                    Am liking Zarn muchly

                    Am watching a little more soberer...

                    But jeez Zarn is good.

                    This year's NMS?

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                    @booboo said in Blues v Waratahs:

                    @booboo said in Blues v Waratahs:

                    Am watching on delay.

                    Am liking Zarn muchly

                    Am watching a little more soberer...

                    But jeez Zarn is good.

                    This year's NMS?

                    Stephenson may have something to say about that admittedly ...

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                      Is it going to come down to a straight choice between SS and Zarn for the WC? Who has the highest ceiling?

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                      • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

                        Is it going to come down to a straight choice between SS and Zarn for the WC? Who has the highest ceiling?

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                        @Jailbreak7 The way players are dropping through injury, I would say they both get a call.

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                        • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

                          Is it going to come down to a straight choice between SS and Zarn for the WC? Who has the highest ceiling?

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                          @Jailbreak7 said in Blues v Waratahs:

                          Is it going to come down to a straight choice between SS and Zarn for the WC? Who has the highest ceiling?

                          I think Zarn

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                          • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

                            Is it going to come down to a straight choice between SS and Zarn for the WC? Who has the highest ceiling?

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                            @Jailbreak7 said in Blues v Waratahs:

                            Is it going to come down to a straight choice between SS and Zarn for the WC? Who has the highest ceiling?

                            I think for the 2023 RWC, Stevenson is ahead of Z Sullivan, if only because Zarn is still a bit of a rookie. For the next RWC cycle, I think Zarn will have the advantage.

                            It will take some injuries for either of them to be part of this year's RWC squad though.

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                            • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

                              Is it going to come down to a straight choice between SS and Zarn for the WC? Who has the highest ceiling?

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                              @Jailbreak7 said in Blues v Waratahs:

                              Is it going to come down to a straight choice between SS and Zarn for the WC? Who has the highest ceiling?

                              Not just the ceiling but the positional competition?
                              SS a 15 and wing, ZS a 15 and backup 10?

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                              • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

                                Is it going to come down to a straight choice between SS and Zarn for the WC? Who has the highest ceiling?

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                                @Jailbreak7 said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                Is it going to come down to a straight choice between SS and Zarn for the WC? Who has the highest ceiling?

                                Foster doesn't give a fuck about ceiling it's all about the now for him. It'll be whomever does the best at the pointy end of the season imo

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                                • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                  @Jailbreak7 said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                  Is it going to come down to a straight choice between SS and Zarn for the WC? Who has the highest ceiling?

                                  Not just the ceiling but the positional competition?
                                  SS a 15 and wing, ZS a 15 and backup 10?

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                                  @nostrildamus said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                  Not just the ceiling but the positional competition?
                                  SS a 15 and wing, ZS a 15 and backup 10?

                                  That's the thing, as you say Stevenson and Sullivan don't cover the same positions. Zarn would be more in competition with BB and DMac in a squad.

                                  Players like him will get their opportunity in the AB XV games, but he also needs to show this form in the NZ derbies (if MacDonald selects him).

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                                    I think we all should just cool things a bit , Zarn has had a good game as replacement, and he's in the ABs?? And I do think he alright, but f*** me we need to see a season before we get carried away. I have thought he's had a few good games over the years, but still want to see him string a few togather. We not Australia whare a player has a 5 minute burst and then is the saviour of the country!!:astonished_face:

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                                    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                      @Jailbreak7 said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                      Is it going to come down to a straight choice between SS and Zarn for the WC? Who has the highest ceiling?

                                      Not just the ceiling but the positional competition?
                                      SS a 15 and wing, ZS a 15 and backup 10?

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                                      @nostrildamus said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                      @Jailbreak7 said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                      Is it going to come down to a straight choice between SS and Zarn for the WC? Who has the highest ceiling?

                                      Not just the ceiling but the positional competition?
                                      SS a 15 and wing, ZS a 15 and backup 10?

                                      I want to see Zarn at 10, but given his lack of experience at 10, at either Super or NPC level, I would hate to see him used in the ABs as a back up 10. It's 15 or nothing for now.

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                                      • Dan54D Dan54

                                        I think we all should just cool things a bit , Zarn has had a good game as replacement, and he's in the ABs?? And I do think he alright, but f*** me we need to see a season before we get carried away. I have thought he's had a few good games over the years, but still want to see him string a few togather. We not Australia whare a player has a 5 minute burst and then is the saviour of the country!!:astonished_face:

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                                        @Dan54 said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                        Zarn has had a good game as replacement

                                        He's been playing well for a couple of years. Unfortunately behind BB and Perofeta for 15, and has struggled with injuries. So, consistent play and continuing to improve has been good to watch; it's not just one part game.

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                                        • Dan54D Dan54

                                          I think we all should just cool things a bit , Zarn has had a good game as replacement, and he's in the ABs?? And I do think he alright, but f*** me we need to see a season before we get carried away. I have thought he's had a few good games over the years, but still want to see him string a few togather. We not Australia whare a player has a 5 minute burst and then is the saviour of the country!!:astonished_face:

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                                          @Dan54 said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                          Zarn has had a good game as replacement

                                          I've been consistent. I've wanted him in the ABs as a 15 for a couple of years

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