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Blues v Waratahs

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    @nostrildamus said in Blues v Waratahs:

    Not just the ceiling but the positional competition?
    SS a 15 and wing, ZS a 15 and backup 10?

    That's the thing, as you say Stevenson and Sullivan don't cover the same positions. Zarn would be more in competition with BB and DMac in a squad.

    Players like him will get their opportunity in the AB XV games, but he also needs to show this form in the NZ derbies (if MacDonald selects him).

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    @Bovidae the thing is I'd much rather have Zarn at 15 than BB. And maybe even 10!

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      It's quite ironic that a couple years ago on the Breakdown, all the Super coaches were asked to pick a name of a player to look out for in preparation for the season ahead. The player Leon identified funnily enough was Zarn Sullivan so I really don't know why he hasn't had more game time up until now, because he is quality.

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        It's quite ironic that a couple years ago on the Breakdown, all the Super coaches were asked to pick a name of a player to look out for in preparation for the season ahead. The player Leon identified funnily enough was Zarn Sullivan so I really don't know why he hasn't had more game time up until now, because he is quality.

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        @Canes4life said in Blues v Waratahs:

        The player Leon identified funnily enough was Zarn Sullivan so I really don't know why he hasn't had more game time up until now, because he is quality.

        He mentioned in the after match interview that he'd been told the accuracy of his kicking from hand had dropped. So he's been working on that. Sounded like he got a small kick up the arse at the start of the season

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          @Canes4life said in Blues v Waratahs:

          The player Leon identified funnily enough was Zarn Sullivan so I really don't know why he hasn't had more game time up until now, because he is quality.

          He mentioned in the after match interview that he'd been told the accuracy of his kicking from hand had dropped. So he's been working on that. Sounded like he got a small kick up the arse at the start of the season

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          @Duluth said in Blues v Waratahs:

          @Canes4life said in Blues v Waratahs:

          The player Leon identified funnily enough was Zarn Sullivan so I really don't know why he hasn't had more game time up until now, because he is quality.

          He mentioned in the after match interview that he'd been told the accuracy of his kicking from hand had dropped. So he's been working on that. Sounded like he got a small kick up the arse at the start of the season

          Lol lol lol the irony, if Zarn's kicking was considered inaccurate and that was the reason for his non-selection, would it be fair to suggest that Beauden should also not have been involved in the matchday 23?

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            @Duluth said in Blues v Waratahs:

            @Canes4life said in Blues v Waratahs:

            The player Leon identified funnily enough was Zarn Sullivan so I really don't know why he hasn't had more game time up until now, because he is quality.

            He mentioned in the after match interview that he'd been told the accuracy of his kicking from hand had dropped. So he's been working on that. Sounded like he got a small kick up the arse at the start of the season

            Lol lol lol the irony, if Zarn's kicking was considered inaccurate and that was the reason for his non-selection, would it be fair to suggest that Beauden should also not have been involved in the matchday 23?

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            @Canes4life

            Depends what the situation was. If a young player is taking it easy and training and his standards drop it's not the same as an experienced player out of form. Who cares, it's all good now. They are both in form and they are both certainties in the top xv

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            • DuluthD Duluth

              @Canes4life

              Depends what the situation was. If a young player is taking it easy and training and his standards drop it's not the same as an experienced player out of form. Who cares, it's all good now. They are both in form and they are both certainties in the top xv

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              @Duluth said in Blues v Waratahs:

              @Canes4life

              Depends what the situation was. If a young player is taking it easy and training and his standards drop it's not the same as an experienced player out of form. Who cares, it's all good now. They are both in form and they are both certainties in the top xv

              BBs in form? Could have fooled me.

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              • CrucialC Crucial

                @Duluth said in Blues v Waratahs:

                @Canes4life

                Depends what the situation was. If a young player is taking it easy and training and his standards drop it's not the same as an experienced player out of form. Who cares, it's all good now. They are both in form and they are both certainties in the top xv

                BBs in form? Could have fooled me.

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                @Crucial

                Last two matches, yes

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                  @Crucial

                  Last two matches, yes

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                  @Duluth said in Blues v Waratahs:

                  @Crucial

                  Last two matches, yes

                  He's had some good moments but is far of what he is capable of IMO. Is very hestitant and shy of contact for starters. Has been dropping back then kicking possession away before getting close to the gain line and leaving his forwards in no mans land.
                  Some signs that he is coming right but 'in form' seems a stretch.

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                  • CrucialC Crucial

                    @Duluth said in Blues v Waratahs:

                    @Crucial

                    Last two matches, yes

                    He's had some good moments but is far of what he is capable of IMO. Is very hestitant and shy of contact for starters. Has been dropping back then kicking possession away before getting close to the gain line and leaving his forwards in no mans land.
                    Some signs that he is coming right but 'in form' seems a stretch.

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                    @Crucial said in Blues v Waratahs:

                    shy of contact for starters.

                    this just isn't true. he hit quite a few rucks on the weekend to keep ball. Just because he's not trucking it up in to traffic doesn't mean he's playing bruise free footy.

                    I thought he played alright again on Saturday, but i always say that when the Blues are smoking an overmatched opponent. There were holes everywhere which is where he is at his best. Played a decent FB game. Still shits me as a 10 for the reasons i said repeatedly earlier in the thread

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                    • CrucialC Crucial

                      @Duluth said in Blues v Waratahs:

                      @Crucial

                      Last two matches, yes

                      He's had some good moments but is far of what he is capable of IMO. Is very hestitant and shy of contact for starters. Has been dropping back then kicking possession away before getting close to the gain line and leaving his forwards in no mans land.
                      Some signs that he is coming right but 'in form' seems a stretch.

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                      @Crucial said in Blues v Waratahs:

                      @Duluth said in Blues v Waratahs:

                      @Crucial

                      Last two matches, yes

                      He's had some good moments but is far of what he is capable of IMO. Is very hestitant and shy of contact for starters. Has been dropping back then kicking possession away before getting close to the gain line and leaving his forwards in no mans land.
                      Some signs that he is coming right but 'in form' seems a stretch.

                      The only contact I saw him take offensively was when some one offloaded him a pass close to the line and he couldn't do anything but truck it.

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                      • CrucialC Crucial

                        @Duluth said in Blues v Waratahs:

                        @Crucial

                        Last two matches, yes

                        He's had some good moments but is far of what he is capable of IMO. Is very hestitant and shy of contact for starters. Has been dropping back then kicking possession away before getting close to the gain line and leaving his forwards in no mans land.
                        Some signs that he is coming right but 'in form' seems a stretch.

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                        @Crucial
                        Could’nt help myself
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                          @Crucial
                          Could’nt help myself
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                          @Steven-Harris Someone was a bit triggered by that comment; immediately starting about Mo'unga. #whataboutery

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                            @Steven-Harris Someone was a bit triggered by that comment; immediately starting about Mo'unga. #whataboutery

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                            Steven Harris
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                            #273

                            @Stargazer saw that 🤦🏻‍♂️..from a Blues piece its bloody frustrating , agree with all the coms on the forum , quite frankly hes a liability at the minute ..Saddens me to say that as BB is a talent

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                            • FrankF Frank

                              Zarn's ceiling is much higher than Perofeta, who doesn't appear to be anything more than a good Super rugby player and back up at international level.

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                              @Frank said in Blues v Waratahs:

                              Zarn's ceiling is much higher than Perofeta, who doesn't appear to be anything more than a good Super rugby player and back up at international level.

                              MacDonald has been putting a handbrake on his team for last 3 years with his reluctance to start Sullivan at 15.

                              Imagine a scenario where both MacDonald & Holland become AB selectors, every NZ fan's worst nightmare...

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                                @Frank said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                Zarn's ceiling is much higher than Perofeta, who doesn't appear to be anything more than a good Super rugby player and back up at international level.

                                MacDonald has been putting a handbrake on his team for last 3 years with his reluctance to start Sullivan at 15.

                                Imagine a scenario where both MacDonald & Holland become AB selectors, every NZ fan's worst nightmare...

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                                @kiwi_expat said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                MacDonald has been putting a hand-brake on the team for the last 3 years with his reluctance to start Sullivan at 15.

                                14 starts at fullback in 2021-2022. One less than Perofeta. But there were a couple of injuries that influenced that number too

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                                • DuluthD Duluth

                                  @kiwi_expat said in Blues v Waratahs:

                                  MacDonald has been putting a hand-brake on the team for the last 3 years with his reluctance to start Sullivan at 15.

                                  14 starts at fullback in 2021-2022. One less than Perofeta. But there were a couple of injuries that influenced that number too

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                                  @Duluth A few of MacDonald's 2nd choice players are better than guys he starts for big games, watch Perofeta in any loss against NZ opposition, including the final against Crusaders last year, he's not suited to 15 at a high level, he's too small, not strong enough in contact, and not a strong defender. Sullivan can play direct and just offers more physicality, could be a great 12 for Blues as well.

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