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Otago 2023

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    I don't think Joe Cooke will be in it. Moved to midfield this year as you said. Has as not much pace as some thought so trying to use his frame in the midfield but midfield I'd say is covered. He won't get picked

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      Yeah, he does research sometimes as it's his job for odt, but he does talk a lot of crap sometimes imo

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        @SouthernMann said in Otago 2023:

        Key points from the article. No Josh Ioane. No Ray Nu'u. Likely to be Christian Lio-Willie's last year. Kieran McLea is probably the third halfback. Semisi Tupou-Ta’eiloa might be heading to Southland on loan. No one to come in from outside Otago.

        https://www.odt.co.nz/sport/rugby/five-or-six-new-faces-likely-be-named-otago-squad

        Five or six new faces likely to be named in Otago squad

        There could be up to a half a dozen surprises when the Otago NPC squad is named late next week.
        Well, surprises might be slightly overstating it. But there will be some new faces.

        Otago Rugby Football Union chief executive Richard Kinley said there had been strong retention of players from last year which meant there were not a lot of open slots.

        "There could be up to another five or six contracts still to be offered," he confirmed.

        "There will also be another 10-11-12 players who will not be fully contracted, but will be brought into the squad to cover injuries and some of those players will get game time in the NPC this year."

        The Otago players based in the United States are expected back, so the likes of hooker Henry Bell and halfback Kieran McClea will return for the NPC.

        Crusaders No 8 Christian Lio-Willie’s playing contract has a year to run. He is a powerful ball-carrier and Otago will be hoping to get the best out of him.

        Highlanders lock Josh Dickson is destined for Japan, but it is understood he will turn out for Otago before he departs the country.

        First five Josh Ioane is not returning for personal reasons.

        The one-game All Black struggled for form last season and was overtaken by Cameron Millar.

        Midfielder Ray Nu’u is not returning, which could open up a spot for the likes of Josh Whaanga. The Taieri centre has impressed in his rookie premier grade season.

        Otago wants to see robust Kaikorai loosie Semisi Tupou-Ta’eiloa in action during at NPC level and has been working with Southland "on where Semisi might be best placed to get some game time this year".

        "That is a work in progress at the moment."

        The youngster looks a keeper, so Otago will want to get the wording right on any loan agreement, if that is what is happening.

        Last year, Wellington halfback Kemara Hauiti-Parapara and Waikato loose forward Rupeni Tamani were brought in to boost the squad.

        However, Kinley said Otago was unlikely to go outside of the province to fill any perceived vacancies this season.

        "I can say, at the moment, that we are not looking at anyone from outside the region. We’ve got some good depth coming through the community rugby programme, and also the trial game last week showed there is some good depth there.

        "I think we’ll have a very competitive side, with the new talent coming through and the retention of some experienced players."

        @george33 article I posted from last week saying the squad will be named this week.

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        @SouthernMann I wouldn't be surprised it it's Sunday after club rugby. Having one last look at players before confirming their squad

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          Completely understand that PD talks shit. But he is the best cheerleader of Dunedin Club Rugby it has. Player interviews, round ups and insights into it. He fills a very useful position in the eco system.

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            That is very true

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              Completely understand that PD talks shit. But he is the best cheerleader of Dunedin Club Rugby it has. Player interviews, round ups and insights into it. He fills a very useful position in the eco system.

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              @SouthernMann And despite what some may say, the rumour mill surrounding the Highlanders and Otago is heavily linked to the true and blue Dunedin Rugby Club men who are connected in with board members...

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                Realistically, the Otago squad won't really be that interesting. It isn't a binary thing, and depending on injuries, players from outside the squad always get games anyway. Mitchell Scott always seems to pop up every year lol.

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                  @SouthernMann And despite what some may say, the rumour mill surrounding the Highlanders and Otago is heavily linked to the true and blue Dunedin Rugby Club men who are connected in with board members...

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                  @frugby said in Otago 2023:

                  e Dunedin Rugby Club men who are connected in with board members.

                  Greg O'Brien, Roger Clark and Mike Kerr are all pretty closely connected to the old boys at Dunedin Rugby Club. Then you have the new generation with Jury and Will Henry.

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                    @frugby said in Otago 2023:

                    e Dunedin Rugby Club men who are connected in with board members.

                    Greg O'Brien, Roger Clark and Mike Kerr are all pretty closely connected to the old boys at Dunedin Rugby Club. Then you have the new generation with Jury and Will Henry.

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                    @SouthernMann Not to mention a handful of them are best buddies with Peter Keene... only the major shareholder of the Highlanders!

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                      @SouthernMann said in Otago 2023:

                      Key points from the article. No Josh Ioane. No Ray Nu'u. Likely to be Christian Lio-Willie's last year. Kieran McLea is probably the third halfback. Semisi Tupou-Ta’eiloa might be heading to Southland on loan. No one to come in from outside Otago.

                      https://www.odt.co.nz/sport/rugby/five-or-six-new-faces-likely-be-named-otago-squad

                      Five or six new faces likely to be named in Otago squad

                      There could be up to a half a dozen surprises when the Otago NPC squad is named late next week.
                      Well, surprises might be slightly overstating it. But there will be some new faces.

                      Otago Rugby Football Union chief executive Richard Kinley said there had been strong retention of players from last year which meant there were not a lot of open slots.

                      "There could be up to another five or six contracts still to be offered," he confirmed.

                      "There will also be another 10-11-12 players who will not be fully contracted, but will be brought into the squad to cover injuries and some of those players will get game time in the NPC this year."

                      The Otago players based in the United States are expected back, so the likes of hooker Henry Bell and halfback Kieran McClea will return for the NPC.

                      Crusaders No 8 Christian Lio-Willie’s playing contract has a year to run. He is a powerful ball-carrier and Otago will be hoping to get the best out of him.

                      Highlanders lock Josh Dickson is destined for Japan, but it is understood he will turn out for Otago before he departs the country.

                      First five Josh Ioane is not returning for personal reasons.

                      The one-game All Black struggled for form last season and was overtaken by Cameron Millar.

                      Midfielder Ray Nu’u is not returning, which could open up a spot for the likes of Josh Whaanga. The Taieri centre has impressed in his rookie premier grade season.

                      Otago wants to see robust Kaikorai loosie Semisi Tupou-Ta’eiloa in action during at NPC level and has been working with Southland "on where Semisi might be best placed to get some game time this year".

                      "That is a work in progress at the moment."

                      The youngster looks a keeper, so Otago will want to get the wording right on any loan agreement, if that is what is happening.

                      Last year, Wellington halfback Kemara Hauiti-Parapara and Waikato loose forward Rupeni Tamani were brought in to boost the squad.

                      However, Kinley said Otago was unlikely to go outside of the province to fill any perceived vacancies this season.

                      "I can say, at the moment, that we are not looking at anyone from outside the region. We’ve got some good depth coming through the community rugby programme, and also the trial game last week showed there is some good depth there.

                      "I think we’ll have a very competitive side, with the new talent coming through and the retention of some experienced players."

                      @george33 article I posted from last week saying the squad will be named this week.

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                      @SouthernMann Monday nightC35D71DD-ACC4-4F90-B8CB-0913D8D2ECD8.jpeg

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                        My mistake. I knew it was around this time frame. But

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                          Finn Hurley scored 29 points today in his side's (Green Island) demolition of Zingari

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                            Finn Hurley scored 29 points today in his side's (Green Island) demolition of Zingari

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                            @SouthernMann what position was he playing?

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                              Fullback

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                                @Kiwiwomble info on games https://www.orfu.co.nz/community-rugby/live-scores

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                                  Otago squad named.

                                  Bit of a shock seeing Waisake named in there. Would have preferred some of the younger lads like big Oscar from Dunedin.

                                  Looks like James Lentjes may not play for Otago again.

                                  Vili Koroi not there at all.

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                                    Interestingly last year they named Asi, Faleafaga, Haig, Hurley, Stodart and Wingham as development players. All, as expected in the full squad this year.

                                    Harry Taylor probably in place of Lentjes. John Leslie's son Jack has made it after being out injured nearly all of the club season. Josh Whaanga is highly regard and is only 19.

                                    Gone from 2022 are;

                                    Bower (didn't play anyway)
                                    Kolomatangi
                                    Hohneck
                                    Tamani
                                    Hauaiti-Parapara
                                    Ioane
                                    Nu'u
                                    Koroi
                                    Vahaakolo

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                                      Otago squad named.

                                      Bit of a shock seeing Waisake named in there. Would have preferred some of the younger lads like big Oscar from Dunedin.

                                      Looks like James Lentjes may not play for Otago again.

                                      Vili Koroi not there at all.

                                      358084157_708592671279504_3813894203369720437_n.jpg

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                                      @SouthernMann only Pole and Lopas… Wingham can play loosehead?

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                                        Rohan plays tighthead now, but back in high school was loosehead and was even a hooker. As mentioned, Otago will be using a few players that even aren't the squad like last year and years before so players like Oscar could end up playing. The 3 replacement players will most likely play. Ollie Haig last year played after 2 weeks and was named in the academy squad so Ben Lopas for example could easily be named in the first few weeks looking at the low prop stocks. Jack Leslie will be interesting seem he hasn't played all season, but tbf Jake was the same and then played brilliantly last weekend. Wonder if James and Timu may be out for the whole season or we could possibly see them towards the end of the season. Waisake, who knows. Maybe he could end up having a stellar year and scoring 10 tries. Will just have to wait and see. Also will be a mentor role for the likes of Hurley, and Asi in the outside backs. Wonder how many games Tau will actually get to play for us. (doubt any)

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                                          I'm interested to see who the captain will be. Sean Withy could be a decent candidate, good leader and will be in the side long-term. At loosehead, Saula Ma'u last listed at loosehead for Harbour recently.

                                          Will Gilbert, Leslie and Hurley be the 10s to cover should Millar or Faleafaga go down?

                                          The poorly written ODT article this morning said Lentjes was out for the season, and it was unknown how long Timu will be goooone for.

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