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    So Crusaders need Rebels to beat the Drua in Fiji to make the 8. The Force shouldn't be able to beat the Brumbies at home and the Crusaders should account for Moana Pasifika. Then again, you never know with this season.

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      So Crusaders need Rebels to beat the Drua in Fiji to make the 8. The Force shouldn't be able to beat the Brumbies at home and the Crusaders should account for Moana Pasifika. Then again, you never know with this season.

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      @hydro11 said in Super Rugby 2024:

      So Crusaders need Rebels to beat the Drua in Fiji to make the 8. The Force shouldn't be able to beat the Brumbies at home and the Crusaders should account for Moana Pasifika. Then again, you never know with this season.

      I think you can almost say see yah later to the Saders. The whole of Fiji will be behind the Drua. They've only lost to the Canes at home this year. Rebels will be a piece of cake.

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      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

        @hydro11 said in Super Rugby 2024:

        So Crusaders need Rebels to beat the Drua in Fiji to make the 8. The Force shouldn't be able to beat the Brumbies at home and the Crusaders should account for Moana Pasifika. Then again, you never know with this season.

        I think you can almost say see yah later to the Saders. The whole of Fiji will be behind the Drua. They've only lost to the Canes at home this year. Rebels will be a piece of cake.

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        @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2024:

        @hydro11 said in Super Rugby 2024:

        So Crusaders need Rebels to beat the Drua in Fiji to make the 8. The Force shouldn't be able to beat the Brumbies at home and the Crusaders should account for Moana Pasifika. Then again, you never know with this season.

        I think you can almost say see yah later to the Saders. The whole of Fiji will be behind the Drua. They've only lost to the Canes at home this year. Rebels will be a piece of cake.

        Crusaders fans, did you know that you can bookmark posts?

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        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

          @hydro11 said in Super Rugby 2024:

          So Crusaders need Rebels to beat the Drua in Fiji to make the 8. The Force shouldn't be able to beat the Brumbies at home and the Crusaders should account for Moana Pasifika. Then again, you never know with this season.

          I think you can almost say see yah later to the Saders. The whole of Fiji will be behind the Drua. They've only lost to the Canes at home this year. Rebels will be a piece of cake.

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          @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2024:

          @hydro11 said in Super Rugby 2024:

          So Crusaders need Rebels to beat the Drua in Fiji to make the 8. The Force shouldn't be able to beat the Brumbies at home and the Crusaders should account for Moana Pasifika. Then again, you never know with this season.

          I think you can almost say see yah later to the Saders. The whole of Fiji will be behind the Drua. They've only lost to the Canes at home this year. Rebels will be a piece of cake.

          Herd to see Rebels players getting too carried away after having a meeting with RA last week for them to choose where they want to play next year.

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          • Dan54D Dan54

            @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2024:

            @hydro11 said in Super Rugby 2024:

            So Crusaders need Rebels to beat the Drua in Fiji to make the 8. The Force shouldn't be able to beat the Brumbies at home and the Crusaders should account for Moana Pasifika. Then again, you never know with this season.

            I think you can almost say see yah later to the Saders. The whole of Fiji will be behind the Drua. They've only lost to the Canes at home this year. Rebels will be a piece of cake.

            Herd to see Rebels players getting too carried away after having a meeting with RA last week for them to choose where they want to play next year.

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            Kiwiwomble
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            #1198

            @Dan54 really, as in transferring their contracts too one of the other teams? was that reported somewhere or a rumour?

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            • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

              @Dan54 really, as in transferring their contracts too one of the other teams? was that reported somewhere or a rumour?

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              @Kiwiwomble was reported mate, Phil Waught met with the players last Monday to hear what the players preferred place to go to, if the Rebels folded. Well I read it on ROAR (I think) and Christy Doran who wrote it is usually pretty true.
              Which is polite speak for you are history boys, and why I wasn't in anyway surprised when the got such a hiding on weekend.

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              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                @hydro11 said in Super Rugby 2024:

                So Crusaders need Rebels to beat the Drua in Fiji to make the 8. The Force shouldn't be able to beat the Brumbies at home and the Crusaders should account for Moana Pasifika. Then again, you never know with this season.

                I think you can almost say see yah later to the Saders. The whole of Fiji will be behind the Drua. They've only lost to the Canes at home this year. Rebels will be a piece of cake.

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                @Canes4life we waved good to the pack weeks ago. Only the ridiculous format of this competition has kept everyone interested. We should never be in consideration for the finals. We don’t deserve it.
                It would be funny if we finished 8th and beat number 1 though. Drua won’t lose over there though.

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                  @Canes4life we waved good to the pack weeks ago. Only the ridiculous format of this competition has kept everyone interested. We should never be in consideration for the finals. We don’t deserve it.
                  It would be funny if we finished 8th and beat number 1 though. Drua won’t lose over there though.

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                  Dan54
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                  @chchfanatic and there is the problem mate, you said it yourself. the silly format has done what it was intended , everyone still interested at this stage of season. I am finding it quite hard to rubbish it when we see how much interest there still is in the bottom of table clashes.

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                  • Dan54D Dan54

                    @chchfanatic and there is the problem mate, you said it yourself. the silly format has done what it was intended , everyone still interested at this stage of season. I am finding it quite hard to rubbish it when we see how much interest there still is in the bottom of table clashes.

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                    • Dan54D Dan54

                      @chchfanatic and there is the problem mate, you said it yourself. the silly format has done what it was intended , everyone still interested at this stage of season. I am finding it quite hard to rubbish it when we see how much interest there still is in the bottom of table clashes.

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                      @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2024:

                      @chchfanatic and there is the problem mate, you said it yourself. the silly format has done what it was intended , everyone still interested at this stage of season. I am finding it quite hard to rubbish it when we see how much interest there still is in the bottom of table clashes.

                      To be fair, a lot of that interest stems from the will-they-or-won't-they Crusaders factor. If they were sitting in fifth place then there would be considerably less interest in that bottom part of the table.

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                        @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2024:

                        @chchfanatic and there is the problem mate, you said it yourself. the silly format has done what it was intended , everyone still interested at this stage of season. I am finding it quite hard to rubbish it when we see how much interest there still is in the bottom of table clashes.

                        To be fair, a lot of that interest stems from the will-they-or-won't-they Crusaders factor. If they were sitting in fifth place then there would be considerably less interest in that bottom part of the table.

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                        Dan54
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                        @Mr-Fish said in Super Rugby 2024:

                        @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2024:

                        @chchfanatic and there is the problem mate, you said it yourself. the silly format has done what it was intended , everyone still interested at this stage of season. I am finding it quite hard to rubbish it when we see how much interest there still is in the bottom of table clashes.

                        To be fair, a lot of that interest stems from the will-they-or-won't-they Crusaders factor. If they were sitting in fifth place then there would be considerably less interest in that bottom part of the table.

                        Up to a point, but I bet a lot of supporters from the Clan/Drua etc were also interested to see if their teams got in. I was genuinely watching their games and cheering for different teams to make it. But Crusaders funnily enough didn't get on my radar, they have had plenty of success, so I wasn't worried.
                        But happy to admit that's just me. And although I prefer less teams making it can see why they do it.

                        I reckon the champion should just be who is got most points over a one round comp, and then have a complete 12 team knockout comp after?

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                        • Dan54D Dan54

                          @Mr-Fish said in Super Rugby 2024:

                          @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2024:

                          @chchfanatic and there is the problem mate, you said it yourself. the silly format has done what it was intended , everyone still interested at this stage of season. I am finding it quite hard to rubbish it when we see how much interest there still is in the bottom of table clashes.

                          To be fair, a lot of that interest stems from the will-they-or-won't-they Crusaders factor. If they were sitting in fifth place then there would be considerably less interest in that bottom part of the table.

                          Up to a point, but I bet a lot of supporters from the Clan/Drua etc were also interested to see if their teams got in. I was genuinely watching their games and cheering for different teams to make it. But Crusaders funnily enough didn't get on my radar, they have had plenty of success, so I wasn't worried.
                          But happy to admit that's just me. And although I prefer less teams making it can see why they do it.

                          I reckon the champion should just be who is got most points over a one round comp, and then have a complete 12 team knockout comp after?

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                          @Dan54

                          If you were going to do that, it would be better to have a minor premier, then a cup, plate, bowl for the 3 groups of 4 teams.

                          I personally think that a playoff in Div 1 (cup) between our top 4 and Japan top four, then Div 2 (plate) with next JP top four, and Div 3 (bowl) with JP teams would be an interesting idea.

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                            What a crock of sh*t this is. Three weeks for a tackle that he should only really have been given a yellow for in the first place. Vaa'i was clearly leading with his head as the ball carrier. Crap call by the judicial system, an example of the type of call that's killing rugby.

                            The comments section says it all.

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                            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                              What a crock of sh*t this is. Three weeks for a tackle that he should only really have been given a yellow for in the first place. Vaa'i was clearly leading with his head as the ball carrier. Crap call by the judicial system, an example of the type of call that's killing rugby.

                              The comments section says it all.

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                              @Canes4life

                              Here's the relevant part of the judiciary ruling if you're interested:

                              “Applying World Rugby’s Head Contact Process, the FPRC assessed the Player's actions
                              as including direct head contact which was made to the victim player with the Player’s
                              shoulder at high speed, with the Player’s body position always moving upwards and
                              towards the collision. The FPRC assessed the act as reckless.”
                              
                              “In the FPRC’s view, no sudden or significant change in height or direction, a late change
                              in dynamics (or any other relevant mitigating factor set out within the Head Contact
                              Process) to result in mitigation sufficient to downgrade the incident to a yellow card.”
                              
                              "The entry point for the offence was 6 weeks (assessed as mid-range in line with World
                              Rugby’s mandate and given there were no other factors applicable, in this instance, to
                              increase the entry point). The Player was given a discount for entering an early guilty
                              plea (and other relevant mitigating factors including remorse and prior disciplinary
                              record), reducing the suspension from 6 weeks to 3 weeks. The Player is therefore
                              suspended up to and including 14 June 2024.”
                              
                              The Player is eligible to apply for the World Rugby “Head Contact Process – Coaching
                              Intervention” process.
                              
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                                @Canes4life

                                Here's the relevant part of the judiciary ruling if you're interested:

                                “Applying World Rugby’s Head Contact Process, the FPRC assessed the Player's actions
                                as including direct head contact which was made to the victim player with the Player’s
                                shoulder at high speed, with the Player’s body position always moving upwards and
                                towards the collision. The FPRC assessed the act as reckless.”
                                
                                “In the FPRC’s view, no sudden or significant change in height or direction, a late change
                                in dynamics (or any other relevant mitigating factor set out within the Head Contact
                                Process) to result in mitigation sufficient to downgrade the incident to a yellow card.”
                                
                                "The entry point for the offence was 6 weeks (assessed as mid-range in line with World
                                Rugby’s mandate and given there were no other factors applicable, in this instance, to
                                increase the entry point). The Player was given a discount for entering an early guilty
                                plea (and other relevant mitigating factors including remorse and prior disciplinary
                                record), reducing the suspension from 6 weeks to 3 weeks. The Player is therefore
                                suspended up to and including 14 June 2024.”
                                
                                The Player is eligible to apply for the World Rugby “Head Contact Process – Coaching
                                Intervention” process.
                                
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                                Canes4life
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                                @Duluth no matter which way it's worded it's still bull. If Vaa'i was standing upright then yes it would be totally fair enough but he was dipping his head into contact aswell which means there is obvious mitigation. The TMO got it wrong on the day and it's shocking that the judiciary have doubled down by giving Tuputupu a suspension.

                                What is Tuputupu meant to do in that situation? He can't really get any lower than he was. All attacking players are just going to lead with their heads now which will only lead to more concussions / cards going forward, just another blight that the game doesn't need right now.

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                                  Tim
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                                  The order of the top 8 is set.

                                  Hurricanes vs. Rebels

                                  Blues vs. Drua

                                  Brumbies vs. Highlanders

                                  Chiefs vs. Reds

                                  Reds might be in with a chance next week.

                                  It's pretty lousy that's there's three teams with 40% or lower win rate in there.

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                                    The reds always beat us they're a certainty

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                                      gt12
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                                      Pretty good comp in some ways though - took until the 2nd last game of the regular season to find out who was going where and playing who. That Blues/Chiefs game had plenty of drama for a game where the winner was pretty clear early doors.

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                                      • TimT Tim

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                                        The order of the top 8 is set.

                                        Hurricanes vs. Rebels

                                        Blues vs. Drua

                                        Brumbies vs. Highlanders

                                        Chiefs vs. Reds

                                        Reds might be in with a chance next week.

                                        It's pretty lousy that's there's three teams with 40% or lower win rate in there.

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                                        @Tim said in Super Rugby 2024:

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                                        That table is a thing of absolute beauty. Roll on the knockouts. Up the Canes!

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                                          @Tim said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                          Clipboard_06-01-2024_01.png

                                          That table is a thing of absolute beauty. Roll on the knockouts. Up the Canes!

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                                          @sparky said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                          @Tim said in Super Rugby 2024:

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                                          That table is a thing of absolute beauty. Roll on the knockouts. Up the Canes!

                                          Haha Blues cock it up. Love it. Well deserved fellas.

                                          Get Lomax, Delany and Shields back next week hopefully.

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