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  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

    @hydro11 said in Super Rugby 2024:

    So Crusaders need Rebels to beat the Drua in Fiji to make the 8. The Force shouldn't be able to beat the Brumbies at home and the Crusaders should account for Moana Pasifika. Then again, you never know with this season.

    I think you can almost say see yah later to the Saders. The whole of Fiji will be behind the Drua. They've only lost to the Canes at home this year. Rebels will be a piece of cake.

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    chchfanatic
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    @Canes4life we waved good to the pack weeks ago. Only the ridiculous format of this competition has kept everyone interested. We should never be in consideration for the finals. We don’t deserve it.
    It would be funny if we finished 8th and beat number 1 though. Drua won’t lose over there though.

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    • C chchfanatic

      @Canes4life we waved good to the pack weeks ago. Only the ridiculous format of this competition has kept everyone interested. We should never be in consideration for the finals. We don’t deserve it.
      It would be funny if we finished 8th and beat number 1 though. Drua won’t lose over there though.

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      Dan54
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      @chchfanatic and there is the problem mate, you said it yourself. the silly format has done what it was intended , everyone still interested at this stage of season. I am finding it quite hard to rubbish it when we see how much interest there still is in the bottom of table clashes.

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      • Dan54D Dan54

        @chchfanatic and there is the problem mate, you said it yourself. the silly format has done what it was intended , everyone still interested at this stage of season. I am finding it quite hard to rubbish it when we see how much interest there still is in the bottom of table clashes.

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        • Dan54D Dan54

          @chchfanatic and there is the problem mate, you said it yourself. the silly format has done what it was intended , everyone still interested at this stage of season. I am finding it quite hard to rubbish it when we see how much interest there still is in the bottom of table clashes.

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          Mr Fish
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          @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2024:

          @chchfanatic and there is the problem mate, you said it yourself. the silly format has done what it was intended , everyone still interested at this stage of season. I am finding it quite hard to rubbish it when we see how much interest there still is in the bottom of table clashes.

          To be fair, a lot of that interest stems from the will-they-or-won't-they Crusaders factor. If they were sitting in fifth place then there would be considerably less interest in that bottom part of the table.

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          • M Mr Fish

            @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2024:

            @chchfanatic and there is the problem mate, you said it yourself. the silly format has done what it was intended , everyone still interested at this stage of season. I am finding it quite hard to rubbish it when we see how much interest there still is in the bottom of table clashes.

            To be fair, a lot of that interest stems from the will-they-or-won't-they Crusaders factor. If they were sitting in fifth place then there would be considerably less interest in that bottom part of the table.

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            Dan54
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            @Mr-Fish said in Super Rugby 2024:

            @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2024:

            @chchfanatic and there is the problem mate, you said it yourself. the silly format has done what it was intended , everyone still interested at this stage of season. I am finding it quite hard to rubbish it when we see how much interest there still is in the bottom of table clashes.

            To be fair, a lot of that interest stems from the will-they-or-won't-they Crusaders factor. If they were sitting in fifth place then there would be considerably less interest in that bottom part of the table.

            Up to a point, but I bet a lot of supporters from the Clan/Drua etc were also interested to see if their teams got in. I was genuinely watching their games and cheering for different teams to make it. But Crusaders funnily enough didn't get on my radar, they have had plenty of success, so I wasn't worried.
            But happy to admit that's just me. And although I prefer less teams making it can see why they do it.

            I reckon the champion should just be who is got most points over a one round comp, and then have a complete 12 team knockout comp after?

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            • Dan54D Dan54

              @Mr-Fish said in Super Rugby 2024:

              @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2024:

              @chchfanatic and there is the problem mate, you said it yourself. the silly format has done what it was intended , everyone still interested at this stage of season. I am finding it quite hard to rubbish it when we see how much interest there still is in the bottom of table clashes.

              To be fair, a lot of that interest stems from the will-they-or-won't-they Crusaders factor. If they were sitting in fifth place then there would be considerably less interest in that bottom part of the table.

              Up to a point, but I bet a lot of supporters from the Clan/Drua etc were also interested to see if their teams got in. I was genuinely watching their games and cheering for different teams to make it. But Crusaders funnily enough didn't get on my radar, they have had plenty of success, so I wasn't worried.
              But happy to admit that's just me. And although I prefer less teams making it can see why they do it.

              I reckon the champion should just be who is got most points over a one round comp, and then have a complete 12 team knockout comp after?

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              gt12
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              @Dan54

              If you were going to do that, it would be better to have a minor premier, then a cup, plate, bowl for the 3 groups of 4 teams.

              I personally think that a playoff in Div 1 (cup) between our top 4 and Japan top four, then Div 2 (plate) with next JP top four, and Div 3 (bowl) with JP teams would be an interesting idea.

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                Canes4life
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                #1206

                What a crock of sh*t this is. Three weeks for a tackle that he should only really have been given a yellow for in the first place. Vaa'i was clearly leading with his head as the ball carrier. Crap call by the judicial system, an example of the type of call that's killing rugby.

                The comments section says it all.

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                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                  What a crock of sh*t this is. Three weeks for a tackle that he should only really have been given a yellow for in the first place. Vaa'i was clearly leading with his head as the ball carrier. Crap call by the judicial system, an example of the type of call that's killing rugby.

                  The comments section says it all.

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                  @Canes4life

                  Here's the relevant part of the judiciary ruling if you're interested:

                  “Applying World Rugby’s Head Contact Process, the FPRC assessed the Player's actions
                  as including direct head contact which was made to the victim player with the Player’s
                  shoulder at high speed, with the Player’s body position always moving upwards and
                  towards the collision. The FPRC assessed the act as reckless.”
                  
                  “In the FPRC’s view, no sudden or significant change in height or direction, a late change
                  in dynamics (or any other relevant mitigating factor set out within the Head Contact
                  Process) to result in mitigation sufficient to downgrade the incident to a yellow card.”
                  
                  "The entry point for the offence was 6 weeks (assessed as mid-range in line with World
                  Rugby’s mandate and given there were no other factors applicable, in this instance, to
                  increase the entry point). The Player was given a discount for entering an early guilty
                  plea (and other relevant mitigating factors including remorse and prior disciplinary
                  record), reducing the suspension from 6 weeks to 3 weeks. The Player is therefore
                  suspended up to and including 14 June 2024.”
                  
                  The Player is eligible to apply for the World Rugby “Head Contact Process – Coaching
                  Intervention” process.
                  
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                  • DuluthD Duluth

                    @Canes4life

                    Here's the relevant part of the judiciary ruling if you're interested:

                    “Applying World Rugby’s Head Contact Process, the FPRC assessed the Player's actions
                    as including direct head contact which was made to the victim player with the Player’s
                    shoulder at high speed, with the Player’s body position always moving upwards and
                    towards the collision. The FPRC assessed the act as reckless.”
                    
                    “In the FPRC’s view, no sudden or significant change in height or direction, a late change
                    in dynamics (or any other relevant mitigating factor set out within the Head Contact
                    Process) to result in mitigation sufficient to downgrade the incident to a yellow card.”
                    
                    "The entry point for the offence was 6 weeks (assessed as mid-range in line with World
                    Rugby’s mandate and given there were no other factors applicable, in this instance, to
                    increase the entry point). The Player was given a discount for entering an early guilty
                    plea (and other relevant mitigating factors including remorse and prior disciplinary
                    record), reducing the suspension from 6 weeks to 3 weeks. The Player is therefore
                    suspended up to and including 14 June 2024.”
                    
                    The Player is eligible to apply for the World Rugby “Head Contact Process – Coaching
                    Intervention” process.
                    
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                    Canes4life
                    wrote on last edited by Canes4life
                    #1208

                    @Duluth no matter which way it's worded it's still bull. If Vaa'i was standing upright then yes it would be totally fair enough but he was dipping his head into contact aswell which means there is obvious mitigation. The TMO got it wrong on the day and it's shocking that the judiciary have doubled down by giving Tuputupu a suspension.

                    What is Tuputupu meant to do in that situation? He can't really get any lower than he was. All attacking players are just going to lead with their heads now which will only lead to more concussions / cards going forward, just another blight that the game doesn't need right now.

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                      Tim
                      wrote on last edited by Tim
                      #1209

                      Clipboard_06-01-2024_01.png

                      The order of the top 8 is set.

                      Hurricanes vs. Rebels

                      Blues vs. Drua

                      Brumbies vs. Highlanders

                      Chiefs vs. Reds

                      Reds might be in with a chance next week.

                      It's pretty lousy that's there's three teams with 40% or lower win rate in there.

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                        mariner4life
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                        #1210

                        The reds always beat us they're a certainty

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                          gt12
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                          Pretty good comp in some ways though - took until the 2nd last game of the regular season to find out who was going where and playing who. That Blues/Chiefs game had plenty of drama for a game where the winner was pretty clear early doors.

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                          • TimT Tim

                            Clipboard_06-01-2024_01.png

                            The order of the top 8 is set.

                            Hurricanes vs. Rebels

                            Blues vs. Drua

                            Brumbies vs. Highlanders

                            Chiefs vs. Reds

                            Reds might be in with a chance next week.

                            It's pretty lousy that's there's three teams with 40% or lower win rate in there.

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                            sparky
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                            #1212

                            @Tim said in Super Rugby 2024:

                            Clipboard_06-01-2024_01.png

                            That table is a thing of absolute beauty. Roll on the knockouts. Up the Canes!

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                            • sparkyS sparky

                              @Tim said in Super Rugby 2024:

                              Clipboard_06-01-2024_01.png

                              That table is a thing of absolute beauty. Roll on the knockouts. Up the Canes!

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                              Canes4life
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                              #1213

                              @sparky said in Super Rugby 2024:

                              @Tim said in Super Rugby 2024:

                              Clipboard_06-01-2024_01.png

                              That table is a thing of absolute beauty. Roll on the knockouts. Up the Canes!

                              Haha Blues cock it up. Love it. Well deserved fellas.

                              Get Lomax, Delany and Shields back next week hopefully.

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                                Mr Fish
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                                #1214

                                The irony is that had the Rebels pipped the Drua, it might have been better finishing second over first so as to avoid the Crusaders.

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                                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                  What a crock of sh*t this is. Three weeks for a tackle that he should only really have been given a yellow for in the first place. Vaa'i was clearly leading with his head as the ball carrier. Crap call by the judicial system, an example of the type of call that's killing rugby.

                                  The comments section says it all.

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                                  Yeetyaah
                                  wrote on last edited by Yeetyaah
                                  #1215

                                  @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                  The comments section says it all.

                                  Instagram comments sections are full of smooth brains

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                                  • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                                    @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                    The comments section says it all.

                                    Instagram comments sections are full of smooth brains

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                                    Canes4life
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                                    #1216

                                    @Yeetyaah said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                    @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                    The comments section says it all.

                                    Instagram comments sections are full of smooth brains

                                    This is true.

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                                    • M Mr Fish

                                      The irony is that had the Rebels pipped the Drua, it might have been better finishing second over first so as to avoid the Crusaders.

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                                      Chris B.
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                                      @Mr-Fish said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                      The irony is that had the Rebels pipped the Drua, it might have been better finishing second over first so as to avoid the Crusaders.

                                      Lining up to play Crusaders/Chiefs/Blues wouldn't be a great reward.

                                      Blues would have expected Highlanders/Brumbies/Canes.

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                                        Daffy Jaffy
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                                          Tim
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                                          #1219

                                          TAB Odds:

                                          Blues
                                          2.50

                                          Hurricanes
                                          2.75

                                          Chiefs
                                          4.33

                                          Brumbies
                                          9.00

                                          Reds
                                          26.00

                                          Fijian Drua
                                          67.00

                                          Highlanders
                                          67.00

                                          Rebels
                                          251

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