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  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

    @Yeetyaah i wonder why they take so long to announce these things

    I feel Adidas had been phoning it for years so happy for someone else to have a go

    ive heard that before about CCC still owning the rights to the designs. There is a couple of questions i always have about that though, the Chiefs/adidas did bring out a heritage jersey a couple of years back...so worst case CCC seem have been open to it before

    but, the bigger question. In every case ive know with a service provider...its the end client that owns the final product, so my understanding would be CCC might be able to own the IP for the creation of the jerseys, any manufacturing secrets or whatever...but what was actually produced should belong to NZR/Franchises.

    In the case of the Highlanders Tartan Jersey, At the time it was advertised as the Highlanders Official Tartan, officially made for the Highlanders by the Scottish Register of Tartans...so i dont see how CCC could own that

    all very weird and if CCC does own some sort of rights over previous designs it seems very unusual and someone at NZR fucked up

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    @Kiwiwomble some of those early super rugby jersies were awful!

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      @Kiwiwomble some of those early super rugby jersies were awful!

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      @taniwharugby definitely a case of nostalgia rather than outright beauty 😉

      rather than the tartan one i would love a 96 jersey...just good old fashioned rugby jersey stripes

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      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

        @Yeetyaah i wonder why they take so long to announce these things

        I feel Adidas had been phoning it for years so happy for someone else to have a go

        ive heard that before about CCC still owning the rights to the designs. There is a couple of questions i always have about that though, the Chiefs/adidas did bring out a heritage jersey a couple of years back...so worst case CCC seem have been open to it before

        but, the bigger question. In every case ive know with a service provider...its the end client that owns the final product, so my understanding would be CCC might be able to own the IP for the creation of the jerseys, any manufacturing secrets or whatever...but what was actually produced should belong to NZR/Franchises.

        In the case of the Highlanders Tartan Jersey, At the time it was advertised as the Highlanders Official Tartan, officially made for the Highlanders by the Scottish Register of Tartans...so i dont see how CCC could own that

        all very weird and if CCC does own some sort of rights over previous designs it seems very unusual and someone at NZR fucked up

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        @Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2024:

        Chiefs/adidas did bring out a heritage jersey a couple of years back

        Āe that was the 96 jersey, that's why I specified 97/98/99. I'm only going off what I've been told so I don't have all the answers.

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          Curious to see what jersey the Highlanders come out with for the culture round... perhaps that is where you might see a more tartan design?

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          • frugbyF frugby

            Curious to see what jersey the Highlanders come out with for the culture round... perhaps that is where you might see a more tartan design?

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            @frugby thats kind of the problem with the NZ jersey...there is little iconic about any of them, generally just a colour...i think thats why those late 90's CCC ones get reference so much....theyre the only ones lots of people remember

            Thats why i'd be happy to bring some rugby patterns back, stripes or quarters

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              I'll take a hunch and say the 2000 kit will be the one for heritage round more or less

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              • frugbyF frugby

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                I'll take a hunch and say the 2000 kit will be the one for heritage round more or less

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                @frugby never surely.....two inherently adidas with the tree stripes for a different brand to make

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                • frugbyF frugby

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                  I'll take a hunch and say the 2000 kit will be the one for heritage round more or less

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                  @frugby That's awful.

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                  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                    @frugby never surely.....two inherently adidas with the tree stripes for a different brand to make

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                    @Kiwiwomble This occured to me straight after a posted it, but all of the kits barring the 97-99 ones are based around a three stripe as the main thing up until about 2013.

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                      Or perhaps something more like this, but with a big maroon strip through the middle. The best Super rugby kits outside of those 97-99 ones were the ones used for the Lions games by a mile.

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                        Or perhaps something more like this, but with a big maroon strip through the middle. The best Super rugby kits outside of those 97-99 ones were the ones used for the Lions games by a mile.

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                        @frugby i'll say it again, would love if we adopted the U20 design, blue and maron quarters, make it our thing like Quins

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                          I really think when they created these teams they should have used completely different colours to the host unions colours. You watch a Chiefs game and people still wear their Waikato gear because it's the same colour. It doesn't represent Counties or BOP.

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                          • mikedogzM mikedogz

                            I really think when they created these teams they should have used completely different colours to the host unions colours. You watch a Chiefs game and people still wear their Waikato gear because it's the same colour. It doesn't represent Counties or BOP.

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                            @mikedogz or Northland back in 1996

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                            • mikedogzM mikedogz

                              I really think when they created these teams they should have used completely different colours to the host unions colours. You watch a Chiefs game and people still wear their Waikato gear because it's the same colour. It doesn't represent Counties or BOP.

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                              @mikedogz yeah it's an interesting one, if you look back to 98/99 when the Chiefs had Northland and Harbour as part of their catchment, they had the maroon and blue wave on their jersey. After that it's just been mostly black with yellow and red. In saying that, some people still don't know the difference between Waikato and the Chiefs.

                              The Blues did it well with their men's health jersey they used in round 1 of 2013 which had the harlequin design with Cambridge blue and maroon.

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                              • mikedogzM mikedogz

                                I really think when they created these teams they should have used completely different colours to the host unions colours. You watch a Chiefs game and people still wear their Waikato gear because it's the same colour. It doesn't represent Counties or BOP.

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                                @mikedogz said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                I really think when they created these teams they should have used completely different colours to the host unions colours. You watch a Chiefs game and people still wear their Waikato gear because it's the same colour. It doesn't represent Counties or BOP.

                                There has always been laziness from the jersey designers. As I've mentioned before, there has been ample opportunity to incorporate the others colours from CM, BOP, KC, TV, etc in the away jersey. But no, let's just make them white.

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                                  @mikedogz said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                  I really think when they created these teams they should have used completely different colours to the host unions colours. You watch a Chiefs game and people still wear their Waikato gear because it's the same colour. It doesn't represent Counties or BOP.

                                  There has always been laziness from the jersey designers. As I've mentioned before, there has been ample opportunity to incorporate the others colours from CM, BOP, KC, TV, etc in the away jersey. But no, let's just make them white.

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                                  @Bovidae i think that actually the problem, we go for these companies with a joint deal and leave it up to them....so they just do what they want to sell jerseys...where as if the franchises took more responsibility for their brands and developing some history they would have insisted on something more unique and iconic...even if it was "ugly"...but it was theirs

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                                  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                    @Bovidae i think that actually the problem, we go for these companies with a joint deal and leave it up to them....so they just do what they want to sell jerseys...where as if the franchises took more responsibility for their brands and developing some history they would have insisted on something more unique and iconic...even if it was "ugly"...but it was theirs

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                                    @Kiwiwomble I know the Chiefs jerseys are designed by an actual person within the area and sent off to Adidas but unsure of the rest of the teams.

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                                    • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                                      @Kiwiwomble I know the Chiefs jerseys are designed by an actual person within the area and sent off to Adidas but unsure of the rest of the teams.

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                                      @Yeetyaah ive always thought the chiefs seem to have more individual design, maybe theyve just owned that aspect more than the other franchises

                                      within that they must only be able to design within the currently template Adidas are currently making

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                                      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                        @Bovidae i think that actually the problem, we go for these companies with a joint deal and leave it up to them....so they just do what they want to sell jerseys...where as if the franchises took more responsibility for their brands and developing some history they would have insisted on something more unique and iconic...even if it was "ugly"...but it was theirs

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                                        @Kiwiwomble well CCC had an entire 'ugly' training range which was just off cuts of various strips...plus, most Chiefs jersies are ugly anyway 🙂 :fishing_pole:

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                                          this might be my fav super jersey ever, close up loads of cool unique detail but at a distance a solid basic jersey

                                          I woul dhave loved if we'd done something similar with celtic patterns, blue/marron/gold

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