Super Rugby 2024
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@taniwharugby yeah, i'd hear elsewhere that adidas we looking to move out of rugby, lost france and club teams like Quins
I do laugh at the idea of super not making any money for them...when they put so little effort into their range
@Kiwiwomble you'd think fan bases for super teams is pretty limited though...whereas the ABs have global appeal.
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@Kiwiwomble you'd think fan bases for super teams is pretty limited though...whereas the ABs have global appeal.
@taniwharugby i think we're as big as other sports clubs around the world but as we're seeing looking at some of the "classic" offerings....some manufacturers seem to just do more stuff
its been down hill since they went for tighter jerseys...and then wondered why people not fit enough to play professional rugby dont buy jerseys design to fit tight on a professional rugby players...but then dont bother with alternative supporters gear and now theres probably a generation of supporters that have just got use to not buying supporters gear
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@taniwharugby i think we're as big as other sports clubs around the world but as we're seeing looking at some of the "classic" offerings....some manufacturers seem to just do more stuff
its been down hill since they went for tighter jerseys...and then wondered why people not fit enough to play professional rugby dont buy jerseys design to fit tight on a professional rugby players...but then dont bother with alternative supporters gear and now theres probably a generation of supporters that have just got use to not buying supporters gear
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@Kiwiwomble Not to mention those ugly greyish ocean away jerseys a few years ago, where you could hardly see the difference between the jerseys of the NZ SR franchises.
@Stargazer yeah, all for a good cause like reusing ocean plastics....but they need to be attractive for fans to buy first and foremost
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@taniwharugby i think we're as big as other sports clubs around the world but as we're seeing looking at some of the "classic" offerings....some manufacturers seem to just do more stuff
its been down hill since they went for tighter jerseys...and then wondered why people not fit enough to play professional rugby dont buy jerseys design to fit tight on a professional rugby players...but then dont bother with alternative supporters gear and now theres probably a generation of supporters that have just got use to not buying supporters gear
@Kiwiwomble yeah not so sure, I expect the Highlanders market in nz is pretty small compared to the blues, let alone football clubs in Europe, not even top flite ones.
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@Kiwiwomble yeah not so sure, I expect the Highlanders market in nz is pretty small compared to the blues, let alone football clubs in Europe, not even top flite ones.
@taniwharugby my football team in the uk has a less than 10k stadium and play in league 2....that has to be comparable to the Highlanders and they have infinitely more supports gear available...i think we've just got use to not having options, i mean last time i was in Queenstown...i couldnt find anyone that stocked otago jerseys let alone a hoodie or cap or something...not in rebel or champions....its just a bit shit
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@taniwharugby my football team in the uk has a less than 10k stadium and play in league 2....that has to be comparable to the Highlanders and they have infinitely more supports gear available...i think we've just got use to not having options, i mean last time i was in Queenstown...i couldnt find anyone that stocked otago jerseys let alone a hoodie or cap or something...not in rebel or champions....its just a bit shit
@Kiwiwomble not disagreeing things could be done better...just the size of the market in terms of fans to sell to is what I'm looking at.
Northland has a good range of stuff, but I have to buy online or from NRU, very little at Rebel here either, but then I am still in the generation where I will buy npc supporters stuff, but I'm not particularly interested in any super gear, I buy TR jnr northland stuff....I have a grandson who lives in dunedin (and his dad, my son played for Otago Maori) and I have some northland kit for him too
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@Kiwiwomble not disagreeing things could be done better...just the size of the market in terms of fans to sell to is what I'm looking at.
Northland has a good range of stuff, but I have to buy online or from NRU, very little at Rebel here either, but then I am still in the generation where I will buy npc supporters stuff, but I'm not particularly interested in any super gear, I buy TR jnr northland stuff....I have a grandson who lives in dunedin (and his dad, my son played for Otago Maori) and I have some northland kit for him too
@taniwharugby im talking about the size of the market too, Highlanders (being the smallest super team) would/could still have a bigger market that my football team that wont fill a 10k stadium...and yet do far less to market themselves...as i say i think people in NZ have just got use to not having many options...the teams do very little to make people think they should buy supports gear
its similar to the idea that wimbledon might only 7-9k crowds....but they put loads of effort into having over 4k season ticket holders...nearly half the crowd
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les kiss , I remember him playing on the wing for the north Sydney bears .
Distinctive name
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les kiss , I remember him playing on the wing for the north Sydney bears .
Distinctive name
@kiwiinmelb he may have received a few slaps from women over the years when introducing himself.
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Look who McLennan wanted to run the Super Rugby governing body:
Well-placed sources told the Herald that RA went cold on the commission when NZR blocked it from appointing, without any process, former Wallaby Justin Harrison as the chief executive.
It really is a tragedy that we have to have any commercial involvement with these clowns. McLennan seems determined to run things via his puppet ex-players.
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@Bovidae There was a further update:
Having raised multiple concerns about the detail of the deal, and suggesting it wouldn’t commit, RA then stunned NZR when it signed the agreement before the June 30 deadline.
While that should have triggered NZR to do the same, it decided against signing until it was satisfied that RA was genuinely committed.
NZR feared RA had signed not because it was suddenly content with the arrangements, but because it was under pressure to show to potential private equity investors that it has long-term stability and certainty about where its clubs will be playing for the next seven years.
Because of this need to gain a deeper assurance about RA’s true position, NZR asked it for a month-long extension to sign the long-form document.
It wanted time to work through with RA which areas of the proposal it wasn’t happy with and to see if they could agree compromises and amendments that would set both parties up to work more effectively with one another post-signing.
RA granted them just one week, which came and went with no signed document, leading RA chair Hamish McLennan to tell the Herald: “Isn’t it ironic that Australia has been accused of dragging its feet on contractual negotiations on Super Rugby Pacific.
“RA and its Super clubs met the agreed deadline with a signed long-form contract and NZR asked for an extension.”
McLennan signed off by saying: “I hope Robbo enjoyed Noosa,” in reference to the fact the NZR chief executive enjoyed a family holiday on the Sunshine Coast in early July.
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The Roar was reporting that Waugh has been in NZ working with NZR in the last week or so.
Both sides are as bad as each other and both seem to run to the press to air their dirty laundry - NZR through Gregor Paul and RA through Decent/Doran etc.
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Because of this need to gain a deeper assurance about RA’s true position, NZR asked it for a month-long extension to sign the long-form document.
What sort of crap is that from NZR? If they are signing it for 'nefarious' reasons, a month long extension is not going to make them say 'you got us, we only signed to get the third party money'. NZR are such a bunch of dufuses.
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Because of this need to gain a deeper assurance about RA’s true position, NZR asked it for a month-long extension to sign the long-form document.
What sort of crap is that from NZR? If they are signing it for 'nefarious' reasons, a month long extension is not going to make them say 'you got us, we only signed to get the third party money'. NZR are such a bunch of dufuses.
@Machpants said in Super Rugby 2024:
Because of this need to gain a deeper assurance about RA’s true position, NZR asked it for a month-long extension to sign the long-form document.
What sort of crap is that from NZR? If they are signing it for 'nefarious' reasons, a month long extension is not going to make them say 'you got us, we only signed to get the third party money'. NZR are such a bunch of dufuses.
Bingo. Surely the signing of a long term binding agreement is a deep assurance in and of itself? This sounds like spin by NZR after assuming RA wouldn't sign and then got caught when they did sign.
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The Roar was reporting that Waugh has been in NZ working with NZR in the last week or so.
Both sides are as bad as each other and both seem to run to the press to air their dirty laundry - NZR through Gregor Paul and RA through Decent/Doran etc.
@KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2024:
The Roar was reporting that Waugh has been in NZ working with NZR in the last week or so.
Both sides are as bad as each other and both seem to run to the press to air their dirty laundry - NZR through Gregor Paul and RA through Decent/Doran etc.
you're right, theyre both childish...I honestly think i would get behind a break away comp
