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    • Dan54D Dan54

      @antipodean said in Super Rugby 2024:

      @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2024:

      @antipodean said in Super Rugby 2024:

      So in an era where an increasing amount of clubs seem to be in financial difficulty, the solution is increasing travel costs?

      Probably as you need more people watching to get more money I guess. Not just bums on seats, but sponsorship etc.

      So play a proper season with existing teams.

      If it was that simple I think they would? I find it a little hard to comprehend that all the people charged with running game in NZ/Aus, and the states /province/clubs I think they would be pushing for it. I am like you and prefer a full season, but I don't have an inside to finacials etc.
      But even a longer season or whatever isn't going to get more money in game is it? I think they are trying to expand into new markets etc to do that very thing as unfortunately the day the game went professional, money became overiding factor.

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      @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2024:

      @antipodean said in Super Rugby 2024:

      @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2024:

      @antipodean said in Super Rugby 2024:

      So in an era where an increasing amount of clubs seem to be in financial difficulty, the solution is increasing travel costs?

      Probably as you need more people watching to get more money I guess. Not just bums on seats, but sponsorship etc.

      So play a proper season with existing teams.

      If it was that simple I think they would?

      I'm not sure you've been paying attention to their demonstrated competence thus far.

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      • antipodeanA antipodean

        @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2024:

        @antipodean said in Super Rugby 2024:

        @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2024:

        @antipodean said in Super Rugby 2024:

        So in an era where an increasing amount of clubs seem to be in financial difficulty, the solution is increasing travel costs?

        Probably as you need more people watching to get more money I guess. Not just bums on seats, but sponsorship etc.

        So play a proper season with existing teams.

        If it was that simple I think they would?

        I'm not sure you've been paying attention to their demonstrated competence thus far.

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        @antipodean said in Super Rugby 2024:

        @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2024:

        @antipodean said in Super Rugby 2024:

        @Dan54 said in Super Rugby 2024:

        @antipodean said in Super Rugby 2024:

        So in an era where an increasing amount of clubs seem to be in financial difficulty, the solution is increasing travel costs?

        Probably as you need more people watching to get more money I guess. Not just bums on seats, but sponsorship etc.

        So play a proper season with existing teams.

        If it was that simple I think they would?

        I'm not sure you've been paying attention to their demonstrated competence thus far.

        Yep mate, just not sure I can claim to know if they are or aren't competent. As I say, I don't claim to know the full costs etc, and all the ins and outs of running the comp. I learnt a long time ago it's easy to be smarter than the people who actually do the job, when I don't actually do anything to show I right or wrong.

        That's not a crticism of anyone having an opinion etc, as I reckon if you asked the posters on here they would all run it different etc, and be absolutely convinced the rest who wanted to do it other way were idiots.

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          Was readin a post by @OomPB in NH rugby saying how good the crowds are in SA at this time of year. Is the idea of moving comp to summer a good thing for super? Not saying yay or nay (well probably not keen), just wonder if we insist on playing at night for TV audiences, could that be a way to go? Certainly be more comfertable going to games.

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          • Dan54D Dan54

            Was readin a post by @OomPB in NH rugby saying how good the crowds are in SA at this time of year. Is the idea of moving comp to summer a good thing for super? Not saying yay or nay (well probably not keen), just wonder if we insist on playing at night for TV audiences, could that be a way to go? Certainly be more comfertable going to games.

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            @Dan54 The URC had an all time record attendances for a single round in round 8.

            The time is very important because we are nearly on the same time zone. Italy get the early matches, South Africa 17h00-19h00 and the Irish, Scots and Wales the late slot. We get two games sometimes at the same time.

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            • OomPBO OomPB

              @Dan54 The URC had an all time record attendances for a single round in round 8.

              The time is very important because we are nearly on the same time zone. Italy get the early matches, South Africa 17h00-19h00 and the Irish, Scots and Wales the late slot. We get two games sometimes at the same time.

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              @OomPB said in Super Rugby 2024:

              @Dan54 The URC had an all time record attendances for a single round in round 8.

              The time is very important because we are nearly on the same time zone. Italy get the early matches, South Africa 17h00-19h00 and the Irish, Scots and Wales the late slot. We get two games sometimes at the same time.

              Not so good for the Lions in Ellis Park though, from what I have seen

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                @OomPB said in Super Rugby 2024:

                @Dan54 The URC had an all time record attendances for a single round in round 8.

                The time is very important because we are nearly on the same time zone. Italy get the early matches, South Africa 17h00-19h00 and the Irish, Scots and Wales the late slot. We get two games sometimes at the same time.

                Not so good for the Lions in Ellis Park though, from what I have seen

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                @Machpants it's the area. They are working on it. May move to UJ (uni of Joburh). The Stormers have host some match esat Craven Stadium on Stellenbosch with great success while they replaced CT Stadium play area.

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                • OomPBO OomPB

                  @Machpants it's the area. They are working on it. May move to UJ (uni of Joburh). The Stormers have host some match esat Craven Stadium on Stellenbosch with great success while they replaced CT Stadium play area.

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                  @OomPB said in Super Rugby 2024:

                  @Machpants it's the area. They are working on it. May move to UJ (uni of Joburh). The Stormers have host some match esat Craven Stadium on Stellenbosch with great success while they replaced CT Stadium play area.

                  Ellis Park being huge kills the atmosphere even with a decent crowd. Same as our SR games in places like the Cake Tin and Eden Park, too big and feel empty even when there is 10k+ people

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                    From the Blues Facebook re: preseason games in Japan -

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                      Really love to see the South African sides back in the comp, surely the addition of a few in the future isn't off the cards.

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                        Really love to see the South African sides back in the comp, surely the addition of a few in the future isn't off the cards.

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                        @SBW1 said in Super Rugby 2024:

                        Really love to see the South African sides back in the comp, surely the addition of a few in the future isn't off the cards.

                        The Highlanders would love for that to happen too as it would give them a few more winable games, especially if some of the Aussie teams are given the heave hoe.

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                          @SBW1 said in Super Rugby 2024:

                          Really love to see the South African sides back in the comp, surely the addition of a few in the future isn't off the cards.

                          The Highlanders would love for that to happen too as it would give them a few more winable games, especially if some of the Aussie teams are given the heave hoe.

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                          @Higgins there is also early talks that the struggling Rebels may not last until after 2025 due to financial issues. A merger with the Brumbies could be on the cards, a positive move if it happens IMO.

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                            Really love to see the South African sides back in the comp, surely the addition of a few in the future isn't off the cards.

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                            @SBW1 said in Super Rugby 2024:

                            Really love to see the South African sides back in the comp, surely the addition of a few in the future isn't off the cards.

                            I think that's got to be unlikely given they must enjoy their teams being somewhat competitive now?

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                            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                              @Higgins there is also early talks that the struggling Rebels may not last until after 2025 due to financial issues. A merger with the Brumbies could be on the cards, a positive move if it happens IMO.

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                              @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2024:

                              @Higgins there is also early talks that the struggling Rebels may not last until after 2025 due to financial issues. A merger with the Brumbies could be on the cards, a positive move if it happens IMO.

                              Terrible outcome. Pull home games from Canberra to play to even fewer supporters.

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                              • antipodeanA antipodean

                                @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                @Higgins there is also early talks that the struggling Rebels may not last until after 2025 due to financial issues. A merger with the Brumbies could be on the cards, a positive move if it happens IMO.

                                Terrible outcome. Pull home games from Canberra to play to even fewer supporters.

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                                @antipodean Aus don’t have the depth for five teams so if it does happen it’s not the worst news.

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                                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                  @antipodean Aus don’t have the depth for five teams so if it does happen it’s not the worst news.

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                                  @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                  @antipodean Aus don’t have the depth for five teams so if it does happen it’s not the worst news.

                                  Half-pregnant teams are not the answer.

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                                  • gt12G gt12

                                    @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                    @antipodean Aus don’t have the depth for five teams so if it does happen it’s not the worst news.

                                    Half-pregnant teams are not the answer.

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                                    @gt12 Aus having 5 teams isn’t the answer either.

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                                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                      @antipodean Aus don’t have the depth for five teams so if it does happen it’s not the worst news.

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                                      @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                      @antipodean Aus don’t have the depth for five teams so if it does happen it’s not the worst news.

                                      It would be a must happen start. Sadly, Aust don't even have the depth to support 4 teams. I think with 3 teams they could do OK. It would take a few years though

                                      And I would just drop the Rebels if possible. Not merge.

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                                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                        @gt12 Aus having 5 teams isn’t the answer either.

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                                        @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                        @gt12 Aus having 5 teams isn’t the answer either.

                                        Agreed. I'm not arguing for five teams.

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                                          if you blokes are so set on shrinking an already too small competition, why are the Highlanders never on the chopping block?
                                          a record of 9-19 over the past 2 years is hardly high performance. Same number of wins as the Force, and 1 more than the Rebels. And they just lost their best player.

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