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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    @game_film Razor was asked this earlier this year and indicated it would be more case by case than set rules

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    @KiwiMurph which is i think is a better approach, it was clear that some AB were capable of playing more and wanted to contribute to the super teams

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      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/super-rugby-pacific-2024-winners-and-losers/

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        Anyway , opening day of 2024 season, and although I always say it too early, I still ready and looking forward to tonight! So tips are in the SF tipping comp , I have comfy chair already, (would still prefer to be at a game but..) so BRING IT ON!!!!!

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        • Dan54D Dan54

          Anyway , opening day of 2024 season, and although I always say it too early, I still ready and looking forward to tonight! So tips are in the SF tipping comp , I have comfy chair already, (would still prefer to be at a game but..) so BRING IT ON!!!!!

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          Canes4life
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          #641

          @Dan54 I think Super Rugby have done a good job at aligning all the clubs to build some sort of hype for round 1. A nice improvement on previous seasons. They had all the captains in Auckland for the launch and something as simple as naming the teams at the same time allows for a little more analysis and excitement pre game.

          Looking forward to round 1, hope my Canes can get the job done in the heat of Perth in what's a tricky start to 2024.

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          • WingerW Winger

            In general, super rugby has a much different vibe this year. In a very good way

            It's all looking good so far. Like an amateur joke outfit to moving to a professional approach. Little thing like naming all the teams early. Media seem to be on board and supportive. NZ have 5 teams where all the fans can have hope.

            The big changes needed are in Aust though. That fool McLennan has gone thank God. Cutting out the Rebels is a must do. 4 is still too many but better than 5 teams.

            And getting a new group set up to focus just on super rugby. It still needs the right full-time leader but hopefully they get this right

            It's all pointing in the right direction.

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            @Winger said in Super Rugby 2024:

            In general, super rugby has a much different vibe this year. In a very good way

            It's all looking good so far. Like an amateur joke outfit to moving to a professional approach. Little thing like naming all the teams early. Media seem to be on board and supportive. NZ have 5 teams where all the fans can have hope.

            The big changes needed are in Aust though. That fool McLennan has gone thank God. Cutting out the Rebels is a must do. 4 is still too many but better than 5 teams.

            And getting a new group set up to focus just on super rugby. It still needs the right full-time leader but hopefully they get this right

            It's all pointing in the right direction.

            NZ rugby media & fans can be relentlessly negative. So far most of the noise about this season has been positive

            It's strange but in a refreshing way.

            I'll give a two weeks max before everyone is bitching and moaning again

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            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

              @Dan54 I think Super Rugby have done a good job at aligning all the clubs to build some sort of hype for round 1. A nice improvement on previous seasons. They had all the captains in Auckland for the launch and something as simple as naming the teams at the same time allows for a little more analysis and excitement pre game.

              Looking forward to round 1, hope my Canes can get the job done in the heat of Perth in what's a tricky start to 2024.

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              Kiwiwomble
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              #643

              @Canes4life agreed

              @Duluth said in Super Rugby 2024:

              @Winger said in Super Rugby 2024:

              In general, super rugby has a much different vibe this year. In a very good way

              It's all looking good so far. Like an amateur joke outfit to moving to a professional approach. Little thing like naming all the teams early. Media seem to be on board and supportive. NZ have 5 teams where all the fans can have hope.

              The big changes needed are in Aust though. That fool McLennan has gone thank God. Cutting out the Rebels is a must do. 4 is still too many but better than 5 teams.

              And getting a new group set up to focus just on super rugby. It still needs the right full-time leader but hopefully they get this right

              It's all pointing in the right direction.

              NZ rugby media & fans can be relentlessly negative. So far most of the noise about this season has been positive

              It's strange but in a refreshing way.

              I'll give a two weeks max before everyone is bitching and moaning again

              ....probably also true

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              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                @Dan54 I think Super Rugby have done a good job at aligning all the clubs to build some sort of hype for round 1. A nice improvement on previous seasons. They had all the captains in Auckland for the launch and something as simple as naming the teams at the same time allows for a little more analysis and excitement pre game.

                Looking forward to round 1, hope my Canes can get the job done in the heat of Perth in what's a tricky start to 2024.

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                @Canes4life good points about alignment etc mate. And also GO THE CANES!!

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                  game_film
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                  It’s gonna take me awhile to adjust to not having the adidas gear. The last few years were pretty tame by their standards but over the past 20 years there were some absolute beauties.

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                    https://moanapasifika.co.nz/waikato-rugby-fans-get-a-boost-as-moana-pasifika-match-moves-to-hamiltons-fmg-stadium-waikato/?fbclid=IwAR3VYim255rtcQp97QTp-3qe3xFZIe4JB3QF8wCE3o4HjRRJfOQewwJ_C2g

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                    • G game_film

                      It’s gonna take me awhile to adjust to not having the adidas gear. The last few years were pretty tame by their standards but over the past 20 years there were some absolute beauties.

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                      Kiwiwomble
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                      @game_film said in Super Rugby 2024:

                      It’s gonna take me awhile to adjust to not having the adidas gear. The last few years were pretty tame by their standards but over the past 20 years there were some absolute beauties.

                      see, i'd say Adidas were phoning it in for years, early ones showed some thought but for at least a decade they were just using a template so one team might fluke a good one (often the chiefs in my opinion for some reason) if the template suited them but often not. hardly any would be iconic as we've seen almost every suggestion for a heritage jersey is one from 96-2000

                      in saying all that i dont think Classic hit it out of the park but i think that might be the directions theyre being given. if you look at NRL, NPC jerseys or old school rugby jerseys in general and they often have something kind of iconic/unique...where are the super jerseys are generally just a solid block of colour...and sometimes the crusaders get stipes of some sort

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                        Entertaining first game. Pleased to have rugby back.

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                          frugby
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                          If the Rebels, Force and Moana Pasifika aren't the bottom three I'll be quite surprised. The regular season may end up just being jostling for home finals.

                          They really need to switch to a six team finals format.

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                            Mattasaurus
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                            Hope I am wrong - but its hard to see this season being much different from the last....same teams fighting for the top of the table, and the fact that the top 8/12 teams can make the finals really makes a meal of it in my opinion..... still a lot to work on ... at a minimum I'd go to a 6 teams finals model, as per @frugby above.

                            Concerns:
                            Hope the mouth guard tech doesn't become a new "feature" of an already complex game.
                            The rule modification has not stopped aerial tennis
                            Officiating still has a wide variability of quality or lack there of.
                            Commentators still cheerleading and talking over officials etc.

                            Positives:
                            Couple of good sized crowds for 1st round - Saders v Chiefs and Landers v MP in particular ---- will be watching the Melbourne "Super round" with interest - but I expect to see a lot of empty seats. It will be interesting to see how the attendances will continue once we are in business as usual mode.

                            MP look to have improved - although it could also be a reflection of where the Landers are at.

                            Some good tries were scored even with the predictable rusty combos of the 1st round.

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                            • M Mattasaurus

                              Hope I am wrong - but its hard to see this season being much different from the last....same teams fighting for the top of the table, and the fact that the top 8/12 teams can make the finals really makes a meal of it in my opinion..... still a lot to work on ... at a minimum I'd go to a 6 teams finals model, as per @frugby above.

                              Concerns:
                              Hope the mouth guard tech doesn't become a new "feature" of an already complex game.
                              The rule modification has not stopped aerial tennis
                              Officiating still has a wide variability of quality or lack there of.
                              Commentators still cheerleading and talking over officials etc.

                              Positives:
                              Couple of good sized crowds for 1st round - Saders v Chiefs and Landers v MP in particular ---- will be watching the Melbourne "Super round" with interest - but I expect to see a lot of empty seats. It will be interesting to see how the attendances will continue once we are in business as usual mode.

                              MP look to have improved - although it could also be a reflection of where the Landers are at.

                              Some good tries were scored even with the predictable rusty combos of the 1st round.

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                              @Mattasaurus

                              I like the idea of a Super round in a neutral venue(s): Japan / Hong Kong / Singapore / States

                              If they did it a bit later in the year, they could run a couple of games in Tokyo, Hong Kong, Singapore, and the States and make a bit more of an effort to grow the international fanbase. I wonder whether China (ShanghaI) could also be an idea for a game.

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                                @Mattasaurus

                                I like the idea of a Super round in a neutral venue(s): Japan / Hong Kong / Singapore / States

                                If they did it a bit later in the year, they could run a couple of games in Tokyo, Hong Kong, Singapore, and the States and make a bit more of an effort to grow the international fanbase. I wonder whether China (ShanghaI) could also be an idea for a game.

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                                @gt12 said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                I like the idea of a Super round in a neutral venue(s): Japan / Hong Kong / Singapore / States

                                My view it's unbelievably stupid doing this. I hope it's kicked into touch and forgotten about. Except as a study to understand how something so stupid was ever implemented.

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                                • WingerW Winger

                                  @gt12 said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                  I like the idea of a Super round in a neutral venue(s): Japan / Hong Kong / Singapore / States

                                  My view it's unbelievably stupid doing this. I hope it's kicked into touch and forgotten about. Except as a study to understand how something so stupid was ever implemented.

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                                  @Winger said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                  @gt12 said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                  I like the idea of a Super round in a neutral venue(s): Japan / Hong Kong / Singapore / States

                                  My view it's unbelievably stupid doing this. I hope it's kicked into touch and forgotten about. Except as a study to understand how something so stupid was ever implemented.

                                  That sounds like a excellent strategy.

                                  There can't be any reasonable reasons to try to establish and grow fan bases in countries with significantly higher populations than NZ and Eastern Australia.

                                  Especially if those places have significant expat fan bases and already show interest in rugby.

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                                  • gt12G gt12

                                    @Winger said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                    @gt12 said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                    I like the idea of a Super round in a neutral venue(s): Japan / Hong Kong / Singapore / States

                                    My view it's unbelievably stupid doing this. I hope it's kicked into touch and forgotten about. Except as a study to understand how something so stupid was ever implemented.

                                    That sounds like a excellent strategy.

                                    There can't be any reasonable reasons to try to establish and grow fan bases in countries with significantly higher populations than NZ and Eastern Australia.

                                    Especially if those places have significant expat fan bases and already show interest in rugby.

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                                    @gt12 said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                    @Winger said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                    @gt12 said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                    I like the idea of a Super round in a neutral venue(s): Japan / Hong Kong / Singapore / States

                                    My view it's unbelievably stupid doing this. I hope it's kicked into touch and forgotten about. Except as a study to understand how something so stupid was ever implemented.

                                    That sounds like a excellent strategy.

                                    There can't be any reasonable reasons to try to establish and grow fan bases in countries with significantly higher populations than NZ and Eastern Australia.

                                    Especially if those places have significant expat fan bases and already show interest in rugby.

                                    I have no issue with Super Round, but it should be an extra round so all the teams are guaranteed 7 home games.

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                                    • gt12G gt12

                                      @Mattasaurus

                                      I like the idea of a Super round in a neutral venue(s): Japan / Hong Kong / Singapore / States

                                      If they did it a bit later in the year, they could run a couple of games in Tokyo, Hong Kong, Singapore, and the States and make a bit more of an effort to grow the international fanbase. I wonder whether China (ShanghaI) could also be an idea for a game.

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                                      African Monkey
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                                      @gt12 I like it. Far better than going to bloody Melbourne.

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                                        Bovidae
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                                        I doubt the Vic government will be that keen to host it in the future without the Rebels. The crowds simply aren't big enough to justify their investment.

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                                          I’ve said before, super round should be late season In Brisbane with the final match between tahs and reds, cooling off a little later in the year and try and build up that rivalry

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