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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    @Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2024:

    thats a concern, he had some really good moments but his bread and butter stuff was passable, very slow to play the ball on several occasions

    if im really mean....he was only in a position to make that behind the ball pass because he coudlnt keep up with Withy when he made the break, he should have been right on his shoulder and been put under the posts

    My worry is Fakatava's game won't improve and he'll continue to have the same weaknesses in his game.

    Hopefully regular game time this season sees his game progress.

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    @KiwiMurph i hope you're right, will also be interesting if he can just be good enough to get into the AB camp regularly if training with the best lifts him too

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    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

      @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2024:

      The NZ teams including MP are being shafted with the Super Round as none of the Aust teams are losing a home game.

      what? how are the other aussies teams not losing a home game? i dont consider playing in CHCH or Auckland a home game...far from it...hell i think id prefer to play in melbourne than either of them

      @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2024:

      9 Folau Fakatava (Highlanders)

      The Highlanders halfback put in a class performance that showed why he will be a serious contender for the All Blacks job. His long pass had zip and the service was fast as the home side utilised the dry conditions to score a couple of early tries. Provided the platform for the Highlanders attack and set-up a try for prop Saula Ma’u with a short ball. Produced a contender for pass of the season with a behind-the-back ball on the team try effort for Sam Gilbert.

      thats a concern, he had some really good moments but his bread and butter stuff was passable, very slow to play the ball on several occasions

      if im really mean....he was only in a position to make that behind the ball pass because he coudlnt keep up with Withy when he made the break, he should have been right on his shoulder and been put under the posts

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      @Kiwiwomble

      The "home teams" are the Highlanders, Rebels, MP, Crusaders, Chiefs and Hurricanes. All but the Rebels are giving up hosting a game. I'm sure they receive a fee for doing so, but the fairest system would be to have an equal number of NZ and Aust teams losing a home game.

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        @Kiwiwomble

        The "home teams" are the Highlanders, Rebels, MP, Crusaders, Chiefs and Hurricanes. All but the Rebels are giving up hosting a game. I'm sure they receive a fee for doing so, but the fairest system would be to have an equal number of NZ and Aust teams losing a home game.

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        @Bovidae oh, ok, i see what your mean, thats a good call

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          @Kiwiwomble

          The "home teams" are the Highlanders, Rebels, MP, Crusaders, Chiefs and Hurricanes. All but the Rebels are giving up hosting a game. I'm sure they receive a fee for doing so, but the fairest system would be to have an equal number of NZ and Aust teams losing a home game.

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          @Bovidae who were the home teams last year? If they were mostly Aus teams then I guess it's fair enough. Just as long as it stays consistent.

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            Jordi Vijoen shares a pretty cool connection with AB great Aaron Smith. Looks like he's got plenty of similar attributes to Smith, especially his pass.

            https://www.msn.com/en-nz/sports/other/jordi-viljoen-son-of-springbok-has-all-blacks-connection/ar-BB1iVSLr?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=8d24bfc8595d43c596fb4e40cdaa82ce&ei=12

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            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

              @Bovidae who were the home teams last year? If they were mostly Aus teams then I guess it's fair enough. Just as long as it stays consistent.

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              @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2024:

              @Bovidae who were the home teams last year? If they were mostly Aus teams then I guess it's fair enough. Just as long as it stays consistent.

              'Home' teams listed first

              Screenshot 2024-02-27 at 11.19.26 AM.png

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                @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2024:

                @Bovidae who were the home teams last year? If they were mostly Aus teams then I guess it's fair enough. Just as long as it stays consistent.

                'Home' teams listed first

                Screenshot 2024-02-27 at 11.19.26 AM.png

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                @Duluth hmmm a bit of a mix there then.

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                  Also the fee a couple of years ago was around $300k aud. I think it's gone down since then

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                    The interesting thought around Fakatava is this will be the first campaign where he has been the first choice and not injured. Even with Hawke's Bay he regularly had to share the nine jersey. We should have a good read on the guy and where he is at near the end of the season. Make or break season for him

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      Also the fee a couple of years ago was around $300k aud. I think it's gone down since then

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                      @Duluth Yeah, Moana give up their home game as it helps them fund a game back in the Islands.

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                      • SouthernMannS SouthernMann

                        The interesting thought around Fakatava is this will be the first campaign where he has been the first choice and not injured. Even with Hawke's Bay he regularly had to share the nine jersey. We should have a good read on the guy and where he is at near the end of the season. Make or break season for him

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                        @SouthernMann said in Super Rugby 2024:

                        The interesting thought around Fakatava is this will be the first campaign where he has been the first choice and not injured. Even with Hawke's Bay he regularly had to share the nine jersey. We should have a good read on the guy and where he is at near the end of the season. Make or break season for him

                        Huge chance to get in the frame, along with Roigard. No excuses as you say

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                          I hope he can kick on. He stuck around behind Smith, had injury issues and this is his big moving year. Be a key cog in turning around a team that has battled for years. He can put himself in amongst the top three halfbacks.

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                            he's got the best shot with the next people in the backline, he's the experienced one now and so hopefully can lead that backline a little, do things different to nuggie if needed

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                            • SouthernMannS SouthernMann

                              I hope he can kick on. He stuck around behind Smith, had injury issues and this is his big moving year. Be a key cog in turning around a team that has battled for years. He can put himself in amongst the top three halfbacks.

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                              @SouthernMann we are pretty blessed with plenty of halfback talent running around atm. There might be a few tough decisions to make for Razor when he selects the first team of the year. Just hope he doesn't select Christie. The selection of Christie over Roigard for that WC final was a shocker.

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                              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                @SouthernMann we are pretty blessed with plenty of halfback talent running around atm. There might be a few tough decisions to make for Razor when he selects the first team of the year. Just hope he doesn't select Christie. The selection of Christie over Roigard for that WC final was a shocker.

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                                @Canes4life dont know if id say blessed, several with potential but still need 2-3 to really own the black jersey, this year is the perfect year for a couple of them to stake their claim

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                                • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                  @Canes4life dont know if id say blessed, several with potential but still need 2-3 to really own the black jersey, this year is the perfect year for a couple of them to stake their claim

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                                  @Kiwiwomble plenty of talent out there is what I mean. Obviously we all want them to step up and hopefully they can do that. I'm sure injuries will dictate selections aswell at some point this year.

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                                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                    @SouthernMann we are pretty blessed with plenty of halfback talent running around atm. There might be a few tough decisions to make for Razor when he selects the first team of the year. Just hope he doesn't select Christie. The selection of Christie over Roigard for that WC final was a shocker.

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                                    @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                    @SouthernMann we are pretty blessed with plenty of halfback talent running around atm. There might be a few tough decisions to make for Razor when he selects the first team of the year. Just hope he doesn't select Christie. The selection of Christie over Roigard for that WC final was a shocker.

                                    Still smarts. I don't want to overstate, but Cam was in superb form and could have been the difference maker in the final

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                                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                      @Bovidae apart from the Blues isn't it? Yeah it's bullshit, it's not totally a fair competition as it's still skewed towards the Australian teams.

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                                      @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                      @Bovidae apart from the Blues isn't it? Yeah it's bullshit, it's not totally a fair competition as it's still skewed towards the Australian teams.

                                      But those losing their home games get more money then those nto though. So in general kiwi teams get bigger payouts (though I still not a fan of the idea )

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                                        Should the Rebels collapse as expected, the Herald understands the Jaguares are fast firming as the favoured replacement.
                                        
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                                          Should the Rebels collapse as expected, the Herald understands the Jaguares are fast firming as the favoured replacement.
                                          
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                                          @KiwiMurph That's a long flight to play one game.

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