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  • Daffy JaffyD Offline
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    #357

    Happy with all those Nogusta calls, especially keeping Beehre. In his 3 seasons with Glasgow Cole Forbes played roughly an equal number of games at 11, 14 and 15, so useful utility value. He actually played 4 early games for BOP this season before blowing his hamstring scoring the second of his two tries. He seems to like to hit the line hard from fullback so I can see how he might suit O'Halloran's attacking style. A bit annoyed about apparently losing local boy Sione Ahio to the Chiefs when we likely bring in unproven PJ Sheck from Wellington. Ahio is going to be international quality down the line imo (You heard it here first). So Sheck better prove up to it. We produce lots of good props but also lose a lot (come home Tamaiti). They better keep young Ben Ake in the system to eventually replace Ofa! I wonder if Tito-Harris will replace Tangitau in the sevens squad?
    Finally I am keen to see if one of Jock McKenzie or Lucas Cashmore is named tomorrow. It may depend on whether they see Plummer as only a midfielder now.
    Edit: Plus getting Grindley is a bonus. Other teams must have also been after him.

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      I see Che Clark and Payton Spencer were just named in the weekends NZ Sevens squad. That means a couple of places open up in my picks for todays Blues squad. Any guesses? How about Jed Melvin and Lucas Cashmore/Jock McKenzie.

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      • DuluthD Duluth

        Stargazer has been busy on this wiki page:
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2023–24_Super_Rugby_transfers_(New_Zealand)


        22 officially named and most of the rest seem obvious. That's not a surprise, as Cotter said there was only a few spots left to sort out before NPC started

        Any names you want to see tomorrow?

        For me it's mostly signing up some quality younger players. Guys that may not see much time this year. Beehre at lock, Spencer at fullback and some new blood in the midfield

        I assume Perofeta and Sullivan will start most games (not sure which way around). However there's not much fullback cover if one of them gets injured (Evans?) so Spencer would be useful

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        #359

        @Duluth said in Blues 2024:

        Stargazer has been busy on this wiki page:
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2023–24_Super_Rugby_transfers_(New_Zealand)

        Ha, I can't claim responsibility for that page, I haven't edited on Wiki for over 6 years, but I do know the editor who does keep that page up-to-date.

        By the looks of it, there are very few spots still to be announced by most franchises.

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          @Duluth said in Blues 2024:

          Stargazer has been busy on this wiki page:
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2023–24_Super_Rugby_transfers_(New_Zealand)

          Ha, I can't claim responsibility for that page, I haven't edited on Wiki for over 6 years, but I do know the editor who does keep that page up-to-date.

          By the looks of it, there are very few spots still to be announced by most franchises.

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          #360

          @Stargazer said in Blues 2024:

          @Duluth said in Blues 2024:

          Stargazer has been busy on this wiki page:
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2023–24_Super_Rugby_transfers_(New_Zealand)

          Ha, I can't claim responsibility for that page, I haven't edited on Wiki for over 6 years, but I do know the editor who does keep that page up-to-date.

          Really??

          This has to be your user? A relative?
          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Ruggalicious&action=view

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          • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

            Happy with all those Nogusta calls, especially keeping Beehre. In his 3 seasons with Glasgow Cole Forbes played roughly an equal number of games at 11, 14 and 15, so useful utility value. He actually played 4 early games for BOP this season before blowing his hamstring scoring the second of his two tries. He seems to like to hit the line hard from fullback so I can see how he might suit O'Halloran's attacking style. A bit annoyed about apparently losing local boy Sione Ahio to the Chiefs when we likely bring in unproven PJ Sheck from Wellington. Ahio is going to be international quality down the line imo (You heard it here first). So Sheck better prove up to it. We produce lots of good props but also lose a lot (come home Tamaiti). They better keep young Ben Ake in the system to eventually replace Ofa! I wonder if Tito-Harris will replace Tangitau in the sevens squad?
            Finally I am keen to see if one of Jock McKenzie or Lucas Cashmore is named tomorrow. It may depend on whether they see Plummer as only a midfielder now.
            Edit: Plus getting Grindley is a bonus. Other teams must have also been after him.

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            #361

            @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2024:

            Edit: Plus getting Grindley is a bonus. Other teams must have also been after him.

            The Highlanders would've been able to offer him a starting spot. At the Blues he's behind the incumbent AB 13

            He did play a couple of games at 12 this year. Maybe that's a possibility with the Blues?

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            • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

              Happy with all those Nogusta calls, especially keeping Beehre. In his 3 seasons with Glasgow Cole Forbes played roughly an equal number of games at 11, 14 and 15, so useful utility value. He actually played 4 early games for BOP this season before blowing his hamstring scoring the second of his two tries. He seems to like to hit the line hard from fullback so I can see how he might suit O'Halloran's attacking style. A bit annoyed about apparently losing local boy Sione Ahio to the Chiefs when we likely bring in unproven PJ Sheck from Wellington. Ahio is going to be international quality down the line imo (You heard it here first). So Sheck better prove up to it. We produce lots of good props but also lose a lot (come home Tamaiti). They better keep young Ben Ake in the system to eventually replace Ofa! I wonder if Tito-Harris will replace Tangitau in the sevens squad?
              Finally I am keen to see if one of Jock McKenzie or Lucas Cashmore is named tomorrow. It may depend on whether they see Plummer as only a midfielder now.
              Edit: Plus getting Grindley is a bonus. Other teams must have also been after him.

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              @Daffy-Jaffy 100% re Ahio. The boys are quietly annoyed the Blues didn't sign him. He didn't 'choose' the Chiefs over the Blues he just didn't hear from them.

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                @Daffy-Jaffy 100% re Ahio. The boys are quietly annoyed the Blues didn't sign him. He didn't 'choose' the Chiefs over the Blues he just didn't hear from them.

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                @Nogusta said in Blues 2024:

                @Daffy-Jaffy 100% re Ahio. The boys are quietly annoyed the Blues didn't sign him. He didn't 'choose' the Chiefs over the Blues he just didn't hear from them.

                Very pleased with that signing, he’s had media in the past talking about how good he may be… for the Blues if I recall 🙂

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                • DuluthD Duluth

                  @Stargazer said in Blues 2024:

                  @Duluth said in Blues 2024:

                  Stargazer has been busy on this wiki page:
                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2023–24_Super_Rugby_transfers_(New_Zealand)

                  Ha, I can't claim responsibility for that page, I haven't edited on Wiki for over 6 years, but I do know the editor who does keep that page up-to-date.

                  Really??

                  This has to be your user? A relative?
                  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Ruggalicious&action=view

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                  @Duluth I wouldn't know where to find the time. I spend far too much time here already! 🙂

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                  • DuluthD Offline
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                    #365

                    Props: Joshua Fusitua, Jordan Lay, Marcel Renata, PJ Sheck, Angus Ta’avao, Ofa Tu’ungafasi.

                    Hookers: Kurt Eklund, Ricky Riccitelli, Soane Vikena.

                    Locks: Josh Beehre, Sam Darry, Laghlan McWhannell, James Thompson, Patrick Tuipulotu

                    Loose forwards: Adrian Choat, Akira Ioane, Dalton Papalii, Rob Rush, Anton Segner, Hoskins Sotutu, Cameron Suafoa.

                    Halfbacks: Finlay Christie, Sam Nock, Taufa Funaki.

                    First-fives: Stephen Perofeta, Lucas Cashmore.

                    Midfielders: Corey Evans, Rieko Ioane, Bryce Heem, Meihana Grindlay, Harry Plummer.

                    Outside backs: Kade Banks, Caleb Clarke, Cole Forbes, AJ Lam, Zarn Sullivan, Caleb Tangitau, Mark Telea.


                    Major gains: Laghlan McWhannell (Chiefs), Angus Ta’avao (Chiefs), Lucas Cashmore (Bay of Plenty).
                    Major losses: Beauden Barrett (Toyota Verblitz, Japan), Alex Hodgman (Queensland Reds), Nepo Laulala (Toulouse, France), James Lay (Moana Pasifika), Tom Robinson (Toyota Verblitz, Japan), Roger Tuivasa-Sheck (NZ Warriors, NRL).

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                      • DuluthD Offline
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                        Anyone have an opinion on James Thompson? Have never watched him closely

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                          I thought that Thompson was better than Tupou for CM. The Blues have the former Hautapu locking combo now. 😉

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                          • DuluthD Offline
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                            #369

                            Good to see Lucas Cashmore selected plus Plummer called a midfielder and Sullivan a fullback

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                            • KiwiMurphK Online
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                              Pretty happy with that squad - good to see some exciting youth - excited to see what Cotter and O'Halloran can do in a post-Razor Super world.

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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                Pretty happy with that squad - good to see some exciting youth - excited to see what Cotter and O'Halloran can do in a post-Razor Super world.

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                                Duluth
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                                @KiwiMurph said in Blues 2024:

                                Pretty happy with that squad - good to see some exciting youth - excited to see what Cotter and O'Halloran can do in a post-Razor Super world.

                                Yeah not much complain about. Underwhelmed by Sheck and don't know enough about Thompson but generally they've recruited well.

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                                  A few comments from Cotter here:
                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/301006074/super-rugby-pacific-vern-cotter-ready-to-finish-blues-job-that-leon-macdonald-started

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                                  • TimT Away
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                                    Will echo comments that squad is good but we may struggle at prop. Should have signed Ahio.

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                                      Tim
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                                      Any videos of James Thompson?

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                                        Bovidae
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                                        Watch the CM-BOP game where Thompson was really good. He's not the tallest lock but has a good workrate, ironically like Tucker. Thompson moved to CM from Waikato this year.

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                                        • DuluthD Offline
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                                          The Blues website suggests Thompson will be used in the loose forwards:

                                          "is a loose forward who can do a job at lock"

                                          "joins the Blues in a hotly contested area of the park. He will be looking to push for game time with the fellow loose forwards in the squad"

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