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  • TimT Away
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    #551

    Early days, but the comments from the start of the season look fairly accurate: tight five depth is a concern, we don't have a international level hooker, we are missing Hodgman and Laulala, and midfield depth is also a concern, especially in regards to having a top notch 12.

    Tevita Mafileo would be a nice get for a prop, Fusitua looks a good prospect, and Renata is playing his best rugby, but his ceiling is not high. Sheck hasn't played, and Lay is out for the season. Who could come into the squad from U20s or development backgrounds? Who might be available to pick up from outside the region? Ahio to return?

    At hooker we have a couple of journeymen who are solid, and Vikena who is in a make-or-break year. Same question applies: who could be pick up for next year?

    At lock we could have good depth if the players weren't injury prone (Tuipulotu, Darry, McWhannell). Any one on the radar?

    Loose forward depth is great, but the question is whether Ioane will want to stick around for longer? Will Rob Rush leave for more (i.e. some) game time? Suafoa is a nice backup to have, and the region is never short of promising young loose forwards. Any young players who must be signed?

    Halfback: Christie is good enough at this level, but not excellent. Funaki is improving, Nock has all the skills but rarely plays with confidence or decisiveness. Will be interesting to see if there is any turnover in this position.

    First Five: Pretty good depth here

    Midfield: Who is the best 12? Are their any young hotshots to sign? Is Heem done after this year? Will Plummer and Evans stick around? Who is the backup for Ioane? Difficulty here is that MacDonald was loath to play young players, so there are a lot of unknowns. Has Grindley got the skills? Can Evans force his way into the 23? AJ Lam has put in some really good hits this year, but looks like a wing adjusting to centre. How would Telea go in the midfield?

    Outside Backs: Seldom any problems here, the region produces a lot of quality players.

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    • TimT Tim

      Early days, but the comments from the start of the season look fairly accurate: tight five depth is a concern, we don't have a international level hooker, we are missing Hodgman and Laulala, and midfield depth is also a concern, especially in regards to having a top notch 12.

      Tevita Mafileo would be a nice get for a prop, Fusitua looks a good prospect, and Renata is playing his best rugby, but his ceiling is not high. Sheck hasn't played, and Lay is out for the season. Who could come into the squad from U20s or development backgrounds? Who might be available to pick up from outside the region? Ahio to return?

      At hooker we have a couple of journeymen who are solid, and Vikena who is in a make-or-break year. Same question applies: who could be pick up for next year?

      At lock we could have good depth if the players weren't injury prone (Tuipulotu, Darry, McWhannell). Any one on the radar?

      Loose forward depth is great, but the question is whether Ioane will want to stick around for longer? Will Rob Rush leave for more (i.e. some) game time? Suafoa is a nice backup to have, and the region is never short of promising young loose forwards. Any young players who must be signed?

      Halfback: Christie is good enough at this level, but not excellent. Funaki is improving, Nock has all the skills but rarely plays with confidence or decisiveness. Will be interesting to see if there is any turnover in this position.

      First Five: Pretty good depth here

      Midfield: Who is the best 12? Are their any young hotshots to sign? Is Heem done after this year? Will Plummer and Evans stick around? Who is the backup for Ioane? Difficulty here is that MacDonald was loath to play young players, so there are a lot of unknowns. Has Grindley got the skills? Can Evans force his way into the 23? AJ Lam has put in some really good hits this year, but looks like a wing adjusting to centre. How would Telea go in the midfield?

      Outside Backs: Seldom any problems here, the region produces a lot of quality players.

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      @Tim

      I know you don't love him, but TUJ would be a good get to match with Rieko in a big midfield - we need @Stargazer here but I think he is off contract this year.

      You could then bring along Grindley as a 13 and keep Evans as a utility.

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        @Tim

        I know you don't love him, but TUJ would be a good get to match with Rieko in a big midfield - we need @Stargazer here but I think he is off contract this year.

        You could then bring along Grindley as a 13 and keep Evans as a utility.

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        Tim
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        @gt12 said in Blues 2024:

        TUJ

        His defence was shit last year, but I also have heard a rumour that he will not be in any NZ team for years.

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        • TimT Tim

          Early days, but the comments from the start of the season look fairly accurate: tight five depth is a concern, we don't have a international level hooker, we are missing Hodgman and Laulala, and midfield depth is also a concern, especially in regards to having a top notch 12.

          Tevita Mafileo would be a nice get for a prop, Fusitua looks a good prospect, and Renata is playing his best rugby, but his ceiling is not high. Sheck hasn't played, and Lay is out for the season. Who could come into the squad from U20s or development backgrounds? Who might be available to pick up from outside the region? Ahio to return?

          At hooker we have a couple of journeymen who are solid, and Vikena who is in a make-or-break year. Same question applies: who could be pick up for next year?

          At lock we could have good depth if the players weren't injury prone (Tuipulotu, Darry, McWhannell). Any one on the radar?

          Loose forward depth is great, but the question is whether Ioane will want to stick around for longer? Will Rob Rush leave for more (i.e. some) game time? Suafoa is a nice backup to have, and the region is never short of promising young loose forwards. Any young players who must be signed?

          Halfback: Christie is good enough at this level, but not excellent. Funaki is improving, Nock has all the skills but rarely plays with confidence or decisiveness. Will be interesting to see if there is any turnover in this position.

          First Five: Pretty good depth here

          Midfield: Who is the best 12? Are their any young hotshots to sign? Is Heem done after this year? Will Plummer and Evans stick around? Who is the backup for Ioane? Difficulty here is that MacDonald was loath to play young players, so there are a lot of unknowns. Has Grindley got the skills? Can Evans force his way into the 23? AJ Lam has put in some really good hits this year, but looks like a wing adjusting to centre. How would Telea go in the midfield?

          Outside Backs: Seldom any problems here, the region produces a lot of quality players.

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          Duluth
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          #554

          @Tim said in Blues 2024:

          Midfield: Who is the best 12? Are their any young hotshots to sign? Is Heem done after this year? Will Plummer and Evans stick around? Who is the backup for Ioane? Difficulty here is that MacDonald was loath to play young players, so there are a lot of unknowns. Has Grindley got the skills? Can Evans force his way into the 23? AJ Lam has put in some really good hits this year, but looks like a wing adjusting to centre. How would Telea go in the midfield?

          It's hard to know what the rankings are at 12. Heem was unavailable in the first week but he's basically been alternating with Plummer

          The backs haven't clicked yet I do wonder if the loss of O'Halloran has had an impact there. Brown is a good replacement obviously but would've brought in his own ideas just as the season started

          As for other options? Evans in the preseason did what he always does.. looks good but then makes errors particularly on defence. Gordon had a promising preseason but needs time at NPC level first

          Grindlay is worth a look soon. I think he might have more success at 12 at SR level than 13.

          I like the idea of Lam becoming a centre/wing he just needs more time.. probably needs a full NPC at 13

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            Unless Brown has returned to NZ he is now in SA.

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            • DuluthD Duluth

              @Tim said in Blues 2024:

              Midfield: Who is the best 12? Are their any young hotshots to sign? Is Heem done after this year? Will Plummer and Evans stick around? Who is the backup for Ioane? Difficulty here is that MacDonald was loath to play young players, so there are a lot of unknowns. Has Grindley got the skills? Can Evans force his way into the 23? AJ Lam has put in some really good hits this year, but looks like a wing adjusting to centre. How would Telea go in the midfield?

              It's hard to know what the rankings are at 12. Heem was unavailable in the first week but he's basically been alternating with Plummer

              The backs haven't clicked yet I do wonder if the loss of O'Halloran has had an impact there. Brown is a good replacement obviously but would've brought in his own ideas just as the season started

              As for other options? Evans in the preseason did what he always does.. looks good but then makes errors particularly on defence. Gordon had a promising preseason but needs time at NPC level first

              Grindlay is worth a look soon. I think he might have more success at 12 at SR level than 13.

              I like the idea of Lam becoming a centre/wing he just needs more time.. probably needs a full NPC at 13

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              Tim
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              @Duluth said in Blues 2024:

              I like the idea of Lam becoming a centre/wing he just needs more time.. probably needs a full NPC at 13

              Lam was putting in big hits.

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                @Tim said in Blues 2024:

                Midfield: Who is the best 12? Are their any young hotshots to sign? Is Heem done after this year? Will Plummer and Evans stick around? Who is the backup for Ioane? Difficulty here is that MacDonald was loath to play young players, so there are a lot of unknowns. Has Grindley got the skills? Can Evans force his way into the 23? AJ Lam has put in some really good hits this year, but looks like a wing adjusting to centre. How would Telea go in the midfield?

                It's hard to know what the rankings are at 12. Heem was unavailable in the first week but he's basically been alternating with Plummer

                The backs haven't clicked yet I do wonder if the loss of O'Halloran has had an impact there. Brown is a good replacement obviously but would've brought in his own ideas just as the season started

                As for other options? Evans in the preseason did what he always does.. looks good but then makes errors particularly on defence. Gordon had a promising preseason but needs time at NPC level first

                Grindlay is worth a look soon. I think he might have more success at 12 at SR level than 13.

                I like the idea of Lam becoming a centre/wing he just needs more time.. probably needs a full NPC at 13

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                @Duluth Leo Gordon looks the goods as a 12 moving forward if Heem decides to hang up his boots , Gordon was impressive pre season and is waiting in the wings for his chance , needs good NPC under his belt first tho still a young man

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                  Patrick will most likely join the bench against Crusaders he's very close

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                      What about Che Clarke ?

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                        What about Che Clarke ?

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                        @cgrant Guess it depends if he wants to stick with sevens.

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                          Apparently the Blues are wearing the Heritage jersey for this weekends game -

                          https://www.instagram.com/p/C4o7djbSrCo/

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                            Apparently the Blues are wearing the Heritage jersey for this weekends game -

                            https://www.instagram.com/p/C4o7djbSrCo/

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                            @Daffy-Jaffy that's cool, I wish other teams brought out similar jerseys. Is there a heritage round at all?

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                              A few old faces visiting the Blues this week:

                              https://www.instagram.com/bluesrugbyteam/p/C4rBBlryA00

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                                https://www.instagram.com/bluesrugbyteam/p/C4rIJAbyKMy/

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                                  Cricket season means the Blues are always late getting games at Eden Park. They've had one home game so far but this weekend is the first game in Auckland

                                  Because the Moana Pasifika game is now at EP the Blues play 7 of their remaining 10 matches at home

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                                    So my contact is saying Beauden Barrett will play for the Blues THIS SEASON

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                                      So my contact is saying Beauden Barrett will play for the Blues THIS SEASON

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                                      @george33 Interesting, could slot straight into 10 as Perofeta hasn't looked overly comfortable so far this season.

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                                      • African MonkeyA African Monkey

                                        @george33 Interesting, could slot straight into 10 as Perofeta hasn't looked overly comfortable so far this season.

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                                        @African-Monkey said in Blues 2024:

                                        @george33 Interesting, could slot straight into 10 as Perofeta hasn't looked overly comfortable so far this season.

                                        I agree htat Perofeta hasn't looked good.. but i would take him or Ofa over Beaudy at 10 right now.

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                                          So my contact is saying Beauden Barrett will play for the Blues THIS SEASON

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                                          @george33 lol that would be bullshit. Does that mean we get Ardie back? Can’t see that happening at all.

                                          Actually I wouldn’t mind if the Blues picked up Beaudy, he’ll just kick the ball away every time he gets a chance.

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