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Blues 2024

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    But some of it must fall on the head coach. His team were patently unready. Was that a mindset thing? A mental weakness? Are these Blues players still, after all these years, bereft of the sort of steel, fortitude, fabric that is clearly imbued in the Crusaders, and Chiefs for that matter?
    
    It would have been nice to ask MacDonald some of these questions, but,unlike Hurricanes coach Jason Holland, he has gone silent at the end of his time in franchise footy. His organisation has put the shutters up, right when questions about them are at their loudest.
    
    Like why was chief assistant coach Tom Coventry never heard from the entire season? What happened with No 8 Hoskins Sotutu for him to drop completely off the radar of the national selectors? Why did normally cool, collected types like Beauden Barrett, Rieko Ioane and Dalton Papalii seem like headless chooks at OT Stadium on Friday?
    

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300910053/blues-season-review-embarrassing-ignominious-end-to-the-leon-macdonald-era

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    • N Nogusta

      @Tim going back to the 7s program

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      @Nogusta Ah, it's the Olympics next year.

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        There are rumours that Scarlets are interested in Plumtree.

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        • TimT Tim

          @cliff Tangitau leaving for game time?

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          @Tim maybe Tangitau to join Laidlaw?

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          • ChrisC Chris

            @Tim

            Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens Maybe heading to the Crusaders

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            @Chris said in Blues 2023:

            @Tim

            Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens Maybe heading to the Crusaders

            My pick was the Chiefs, because I think Shaun Stevenson will either head offshore, join the NRL... or potentially even have a stab at 7s before he leaves? If JRK wants to play 15, that is a massive opening. Has just re-signed with Taranaki for two years, so all will be revealed soon.

            @Canes4life said in Blues 2023:

            @Tim maybe Tangitau to join Laidlaw?

            Hard to imagine the Blues haven't locked up Tanigtau long-term, but once again, I'd be questioning the choices of pretty much any outside back, if they move to another team anywhere other than the Landers (Unless there is a fullback opening at the Chiefs). All the other teams are stacked with established players, and as Lam and JRK have shown, you just end up sitting in the stands.

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              Crusaders are talking to JRK as FB cover.

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                https://www.facebook.com/reel/964485911528027

                Confirmed leaving: Hodgman, Laulala, Tucker, Plumtree, Robinson, Barrett, Tangitau, JRK.

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                • ChrisC Chris

                  Crusaders are talking to JRK as FB cover.

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                  @Chris Having wasted three years sitting on the Blues bench, I'd have no idea why he'd want to do that - sit behind Will Jordan. If that is the case, Fihaki would surely be leaving.

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                    #64

                    So we could be looking for as many as three locks, with Edward Annandale presumably one of them. Also could be after three props, which is a lot of turnover for the tight five.

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                      So we could be looking for as many as three locks, with Edward Annandale presumably one of them. Also could be after three props, which is a lot of turnover for the tight five.

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                      @Tim Could be wrong, but Fusitua, Tu'ungafasi, Lay and Renata are all in theory back, so just three props... though tight five stocks are looking WEAK.

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                        Wonder if we will see this XV at some stage next year:

                        1 Fusitua
                        2 Riccitelli
                        3 Tu'ungufasi
                        4 Darry
                        5 Tuipulotu
                        6 Suafoa
                        7 Papalii
                        8 Ioane
                        9 Nock
                        10 Perofeta
                        11 Clarke
                        12 Evans
                        13 Ioane
                        14 Telea
                        15 Sullivan

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                          Any idea where Plummer is going? Please be highlanders

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                            Any idea where Plummer is going? Please be highlanders

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                            @Bones Plumtree is leaving, not Plummer.

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                              @Chris Having wasted three years sitting on the Blues bench, I'd have no idea why he'd want to do that - sit behind Will Jordan. If that is the case, Fihaki would surely be leaving.

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                              #69

                              @frugby
                              No Fihaki now seen as a wing option after his last few games not FB anymore.
                              Jordan will not play every game due to AB protocol and always has the Migraine issues to deal with.
                              JRK would get plenty of game time.
                              Not confirmed as yet.

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                                @Bones Plumtree is leaving, not Plummer.

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                                @Tim knife through the heart

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                                  @frugby
                                  No Fihaki now seen as a wing option after his last few games not FB anymore.
                                  Jordan will not play every game due to AB protocol and always has the Migraine issues to deal with.
                                  JRK would get plenty of game time.
                                  Not confirmed as yet.

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                                  @Chris Easy to say, but having seen Patafilo, Naholo, Fihaki etc. be starved of minutes I'd be sceptical. If he isn't injured, Jordan starts 80% of the games next season you'd suggest. Doesn't leave many games to push a case for a spot on the wing or to just generally play FB.

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                                    @Chris Easy to say, but having seen Patafilo, Naholo, Fihaki etc. be starved of minutes I'd be sceptical. If he isn't injured, Jordan starts 80% of the games next season you'd suggest. Doesn't leave many games to push a case for a spot on the wing or to just generally play FB.

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                                    @frugby said in Blues 2023:

                                    @Chris Easy to say, but having seen Patafilo, Naholo, Fihaki etc. be starved of minutes I'd be sceptical. If he isn't injured, Jordan starts 80% of the games next season you'd suggest. Doesn't leave many games to push a case for a spot on the wing or to just generally play FB.

                                    I would assume he would go there looking for a wing spot (and maybe some occasional games at FB)? If not the Saders, the Landers would be the only option and it seems no one wants to go there.

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      Wonder if we will see this XV at some stage next year:

                                      1 Fusitua
                                      2 Riccitelli
                                      3 Tu'ungufasi
                                      4 Darry
                                      5 Tuipulotu
                                      6 Suafoa
                                      7 Papalii
                                      8 Ioane
                                      9 Nock
                                      10 Perofeta
                                      11 Clarke
                                      12 Evans
                                      13 Ioane
                                      14 Telea
                                      15 Sullivan

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                                      frugby
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                                      @Tim I thought Steven Harris said Evans was out of favour and was seeking an early release?

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                                        @Tim I thought Steven Harris said Evans was out of favour and was seeking an early release?

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                                        taniwharugby
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                                        @frugby from Auckland, not Blues, I know some Aucklanders dont get the distinction 😉 :fishing_pole:

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                                          @Chris Easy to say, but having seen Patafilo, Naholo, Fihaki etc. be starved of minutes I'd be sceptical. If he isn't injured, Jordan starts 80% of the games next season you'd suggest. Doesn't leave many games to push a case for a spot on the wing or to just generally play FB.

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                                          @frugby
                                          Ok we we see in time if Fihaki moves and were JRK goes won't we.

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