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Waikato 2023

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  • S SouthernMann

    @Bovidae said in Waikato 2023:

    I mentioned that an experienced 1st 5 will be needed, and Wharenui Hawera might be that player. He's the leading points scorer in Waikato club rugby, so is likely staying on this side of the Kaimai's.

    Haven't you signed Josh Ioane?

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    @SouthernMann said in Waikato 2023:

    Haven't you signed Josh Ioane?

    I've no idea. I only mentioned that he would be a good pickup if staying in NZ. We'll see in a couple of weeks.

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      The ODT article after the Otago NPC side was named stated he is going to Waikato.

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      • S SouthernMann

        The ODT article after the Otago NPC side was named stated he is going to Waikato.

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        @SouthernMann OK, I hadn't seen that, only that Ioane wasn't returning to Otago.

        Is there a link?

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          "He adds experience to a young backline after stalwart Josh Ioane signed with Waikato and Vilimoni Koroi is exploring new opportunities."

          https://www.odt.co.nz/sport/rugby/naholo-‘add-massively’-otago-squad

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            That article is paywalled, but I assume you've quoted the relevant info.

            The Waikato Times doesn't cover any local rugby.

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              This is the B team?

              2023 NEW ZEALAND HARLEQUINS XV SQUAD

              Vincent Green ( Melville )

              Jonas Pomare ( Fraser Tech )

              Manahi Goulton (Te Awamutu Sports)

              Stanly Paese (Hautapu)

              Teha Rehara ( Hautapu )

              Kaleb Saxon ( Hautapu )

              Sean Ralph ( Te Awamutu Sports )

              Luke White ( Melville )

              Zinzan Hansen ( The University of Waikato )

              Josh Coffin ( Te Awamutu Sports )

              Jake Russ ( Te Awamutu Sports )

              Dave Morris ( Hautapu )

              Xavier Saifoloi ( The University of Waikato )

              Tevita Taukeiaho ( Te Awamutu Sports )

              Senita Lauaki ( Hautapu )

              Rhys Dickinson ( Matamata )

              Keaton Neals ( Marist )

              Logan Allen ( Matamata )

              Jack Harding ( The University of Waikato )

              Sam Toa ( Te Awamutu Sports )

              Levi Reweti ( The University of Waikato )

              Guy Landsdown ( Fraser Tech )

              Westyn Cobb ( Te Awamutu Sports )

              Shauncy Waho ( Te Awamutu Sports )

              Quintin Hill ( Hautapu )

              Josh Calvert (Fraser Tech)

              Jackson Neels ( Leamington )

              Latrell Smiler-Ah-Kong (Te Awamutu Sports )

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                From the players I am familiar with it looks to be mainly development/younger players.

                Who are they playing?

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                  Thames Valley and King Country. Not sure if equivalent team or pre Season for Heartland. Counties B. I found the team on the mooloo site and the draw on the harlequins site.

                  They might be part of the competition run by the northern regions: https://www.sporty.co.nz/northernregionrep/

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                    Last year the Chiefs Cup was played before the NPC squad was announced so a lot of U20 players and wider training squad players were involved in those pre-season games. That isn't the situation this year.

                    AFAIK Waikato didn't have a B team in 2022, or at least I never saw a team/fixture list.

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                      So we've got two halfbacks. Hopefully Roe is fit again.

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                        I would think Tucker will be looking overseas soon unless he picks up a SR contract.

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                          https://www.mooloo.co.nz/newsarticle/130715?newsCarouselId=680598

                          2023 Waikato Bunnings Warehouse National Provincial Championship Squad
                          Pita Anae-Ah Sue (9) Hautapu
                          Hamilton Burr (38) Hautapu
                          Tepaea Cook-Savage (13) Fraser Tech
                          Liam Coombes-Fabling (32) Fraser Tech
                          Mosese Dawai (24) Otorohanga
                          George Dyer (22) Fraser Tech
                          Samipeni Finau (28) Hamilton Old Boys
                          Josh Ioane ( ) United Matamata Sports
                          Luke Jacobson (28) Hautapu
                          Mitch Jacobson (72) Hautapu – Co-Captain
                          Ayden Johnstone (40) Hautapu – Co-Captain
                          Taha Kemara (5) Te Awamutu Sports
                          D’Angelo Leuila (21) Fraser Tech
                          Anton Lienert-Brown (22) University
                          Rhys Marshall (14)
                          Patrick McCurran (9) Fraser Tech
                          Damian McKenzie (37) University
                          Laghlan McWhannell (30) Hautapu
                          Cody Nordstrom ( ) Te Awamutu Sports
                          Ollie Norris (40) Hautapu
                          Simon Parker (11) Hautapu
                          Cortez Ratima (31) Otorohanga
                          Te Rama Reuben (6) University
                          Gabe Robinson ( ) Hamilton Marist
                          Xavier Roe (26) Hamilton Old Boys
                          Daniel Sinkinson (12) Melville
                          Bailyn Sullivan (55) Hamilton Marist
                          Samisoni Taukei’aho (44) Fraser Tech
                          James Tucker (59) Hamilton Marist
                          Solomone Tukuafu (3) Hamilton Old Boys
                          Mason Tupaea ( ) Hamilton Marist
                          Quinn Tupaea (32) Hamilton Old Boys
                          Gideon Wrampling (18) Hamilton Old Boys

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                            So they've promoted two young props (Tupaea and Robinson) and Nordstrom, but not too many other new faces.

                            I would think that the NZ Harlequins XV squad will provide the backup pool of players.

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                              Last year 38 players were named, compared to only 33 this year so it will be interesting to see which other players are involved in the pre-season games. There will be cover for the ABs and only two halfbacks are listed.

                              I wonder what Sefo Kautai is up to? I am happy to invest in youth and local players.

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                                https://www.mooloo.co.nz/newsarticle/130715?newsCarouselId=680598

                                2023 Waikato Bunnings Warehouse National Provincial Championship Squad
                                Pita Anae-Ah Sue (9) Hautapu
                                Hamilton Burr (38) Hautapu
                                Tepaea Cook-Savage (13) Fraser Tech
                                Liam Coombes-Fabling (32) Fraser Tech
                                Mosese Dawai (24) Otorohanga
                                George Dyer (22) Fraser Tech
                                Samipeni Finau (28) Hamilton Old Boys
                                Josh Ioane ( ) United Matamata Sports
                                Luke Jacobson (28) Hautapu
                                Mitch Jacobson (72) Hautapu – Co-Captain
                                Ayden Johnstone (40) Hautapu – Co-Captain
                                Taha Kemara (5) Te Awamutu Sports
                                D’Angelo Leuila (21) Fraser Tech
                                Anton Lienert-Brown (22) University
                                Rhys Marshall (14)
                                Patrick McCurran (9) Fraser Tech
                                Damian McKenzie (37) University
                                Laghlan McWhannell (30) Hautapu
                                Cody Nordstrom ( ) Te Awamutu Sports
                                Ollie Norris (40) Hautapu
                                Simon Parker (11) Hautapu
                                Cortez Ratima (31) Otorohanga
                                Te Rama Reuben (6) University
                                Gabe Robinson ( ) Hamilton Marist
                                Xavier Roe (26) Hamilton Old Boys
                                Daniel Sinkinson (12) Melville
                                Bailyn Sullivan (55) Hamilton Marist
                                Samisoni Taukei’aho (44) Fraser Tech
                                James Tucker (59) Hamilton Marist
                                Solomone Tukuafu (3) Hamilton Old Boys
                                Mason Tupaea ( ) Hamilton Marist
                                Quinn Tupaea (32) Hamilton Old Boys
                                Gideon Wrampling (18) Hamilton Old Boys

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                                @Bovidae wow strong squad. Look forward to seeing it perform

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                                  The squad seems light at lock, especially with McWhannell unavailable for the first couple of rounds. Burr is the obvious option but isn't the tallest lock around. Maybe Parker will cover at lock....

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                                    The squad seems light at lock, especially with McWhannell unavailable for the first couple of rounds. Burr is the obvious option but isn't the tallest lock around. Maybe Parker will cover at lock....

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                                    @OleOleOle Agree. One of the things I noticed as well. Burr has played a lot at lock for Waikato.

                                    It will be interesting to see who is used at lock on Sat. Last year Andrew Smith and Zinzan Hansen played at the Chiefs Centurions Cup. The former is really a 6, and still very young. Hansen is also U20 but has height.

                                    The locks in the NZ Harlequins squad are Hansen, Luke White and Josh Coffin. Coffin has some first class experience so might be the obvious choice.

                                    Tom Martin hasn't made the squad and wasn't in the Marist teams during the latter stages of the club season, so may be injured again.

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                                      I would think Tucker will be looking overseas soon unless he picks up a SR contract.

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                                      @Bovidae

                                      @Bovidae said in Waikato 2023:

                                      I would think Tucker will be looking overseas soon unless he picks up a SR contract.

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                                      both his bros are over in the states so might end up that way.. but was saying that agents etc are all pretty focused on world cup and guys there and what they're doing after so not getting loads of attention

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                                        From the Stuff article:

                                        Waikato coach Ross Filipo said he would run his three All Blacks in the opening game alongside many of the province’s academy and wider-group players, before putting out a mostly contracted squad in the second match.

                                        “We think it’s going to be a great opportunity for those younger guys to be on the pitch with some of our All Blacks,” he said, of what he hopes will be the last time he sees the trio this year, despite the boost they could provide during the provincial season.

                                        I wouldn't be surprised if Finau played at lock to accommodate some of the loose forwards. He actually played at no.8 in this fixture last year. It sounds like Quinn Tupaea is ready to go too.

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                                          From memory these were the teams that started each game:

                                          (vs Counties Manukau)
                                          Mason Tupaea
                                          Sean Ralph
                                          Sosaia Folau - a new name for me
                                          Andrew Smith
                                          Zinzan Hansen
                                          Samipeni Finau
                                          Senita Lauaki
                                          Luke Jacobson

                                          Te Aonui Wharawhara-Muriwai
                                          Dominic Clapcott
                                          Waisake Salibiau
                                          Austin Anderson
                                          Tana Tuhakaraina
                                          Cody Nordstrom
                                          Jole Naufahu

                                          (vs Taranaki)
                                          Ayden Johnstone
                                          Pita Anae-Ah Sue
                                          Solomone Tukuafu
                                          Hamilton Burr
                                          Tai Cribb
                                          Xavier Saifoloi
                                          Simon Parker
                                          Te Rama Reuben

                                          Cortez Ratima
                                          Josh Ioane
                                          Daniel Sinkinson
                                          Gideon Wrampling
                                          Quinn Tupaea
                                          Cody Nordstrom
                                          Tepaea Cook-Savage

                                          The lineout had some issues in both games, a combination of overthrows from the hookers and getting picked off at the front. Not having any of the main locks didn't help.

                                          Roe is still not available for a few weeks.

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