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NZ U20 v France U20 (World Rugby U20 Championship)

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    New Zealand U20 v France U20
    Thursday 29 June 2023
    Kick-off 11.30pm NZT
    Sky Sport 1

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      New Zealand Under 20

      1 Ben Ake (Auckland)

      2 Jack Taylor (Southland)

      3 Siale Lauaki (Wellington)

      4 Tahlor Cahill (Canterbury)

      5 Tom Allen (Hawke’s Bay)

      6 Che Clark (Auckland)

      7 Peter Lakai – Vice captain (Wellington)

      8 Malachi Wrampling-Alec (Waikato)

      9 Noah Hotham – Captain ( Ta$man)

      10 Taha Kemara – Vice Captain (Waikato)

      11 Macca Springer ( Ta$man)

      12 Leo Gordon (Auckland)

      13 Aki Tuivailala (Waikato)

      14 Caleb Tangitau (Auckland)

      15 Harry Godfrey (Hawke’s Bay)

      16 Raymond Tuputupu (Manawatū)

      17 Malakai Hala (Manawatū)

      18 Gabe Robinson (Waikato)

      19 Will Stodart (Otago)

      20 Cooper Flanders (Hawke's Bay)

      21 Jordi Viljoen (Manawatū)

      22 Ajay Faleafaga (Otago)

      23 Codemeru Vai (Bay of Plenty)


      https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-zealand-under-20-named-for-france-clash

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        https://www.ffr.fr/actualites/france-moins-20-ans/championnat-du-monde-2023-la-composition-de-france-moins-20-ans-face-a-la-nouvelle-zelande

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          New Zealand Under 20

          1 Ben Ake (Auckland)

          2 Jack Taylor (Southland)

          3 Siale Lauaki (Wellington)

          4 Tahlor Cahill (Canterbury)

          5 Tom Allen (Hawke’s Bay)

          6 Che Clark (Auckland)

          7 Peter Lakai – Vice captain (Wellington)

          8 Malachi Wrampling-Alec (Waikato)

          9 Noah Hotham – Captain ( Ta$man)

          10 Taha Kemara – Vice Captain (Waikato)

          11 Macca Springer ( Ta$man)

          12 Leo Gordon (Auckland)

          13 Aki Tuivailala (Waikato)

          14 Caleb Tangitau (Auckland)

          15 Harry Godfrey (Hawke’s Bay)

          16 Raymond Tuputupu (Manawatū)

          17 Malakai Hala (Manawatū)

          18 Gabe Robinson (Waikato)

          19 Will Stodart (Otago)

          20 Cooper Flanders (Hawke's Bay)

          21 Jordi Viljoen (Manawatū)

          22 Ajay Faleafaga (Otago)

          23 Codemeru Vai (Bay of Plenty)


          https://www.allblacks.com/news/new-zealand-under-20-named-for-france-clash

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          @Stargazer Tom Allen gets a start. Stats I saw said he's 1.97, 114 and age as 18. Young if correct. And a big lad .

          Lakai starting at 7 instead of 8. I think this could be his best position. Keen to see how he goes

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            This could get very ugly up front we may get monstered.
            Hopefully enough ball for our backs to get the job done.

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              This will be a pretty good benchmark for our future I reckon. See if we've learned anything about modern rugby over the last few years of getting monstered up front at this level.

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                This will be a pretty good benchmark for our future I reckon. See if we've learned anything about modern rugby over the last few years of getting monstered up front at this level.

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                @MajorRage

                I don’t reckon we have the forward pack to get parity.
                My guess fast paced game to tire out the big forwards and get around them on the edges.
                That game plan depends on their skill set and who the ref is.it has failed recently,not a surprise anymore and can be shut down like the Irish have done to us.
                I would hope to see something different.

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                  @Stargazer Tom Allen gets a start. Stats I saw said he's 1.97, 114 and age as 18. Young if correct. And a big lad .

                  Lakai starting at 7 instead of 8. I think this could be his best position. Keen to see how he goes

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                  @Winger said in NZ U20 v France U20 (World Rugby U20 Championship):

                  Tom Allen gets a start. Stats I saw said he's 1.97, 114 and age as 18. Young if correct. And a big lad .

                  I think he's taller than that as I noted when the team was lined up for the anthems to play Aust that Allen looked taller than Cahill, who is listed as 1.98 m. All the NZ Schools locks from last year (including Allen) were similar in height so hopefully that bodes well for the future.

                  Laidlaw hasn't made too many changes, and picked the loose forward trio I was hoping for.

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                    @MajorRage

                    I don’t reckon we have the forward pack to get parity.
                    My guess fast paced game to tire out the big forwards and get around them on the edges.
                    That game plan depends on their skill set and who the ref is.it has failed recently,not a surprise anymore and can be shut down like the Irish have done to us.
                    I would hope to see something different.

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                    @Chris said in NZ U20 v France U20 (World Rugby U20 Championship):

                    @MajorRage

                    I don’t reckon we have the forward pack to get parity.
                    My guess fast paced game to tire out the big forwards and get around them on the edges.
                    That game plan depends on their skill set and who the ref is.it has failed recently,not a surprise anymore and can be shut down like the Irish have done to us.
                    I would hope to see something different.

                    Exactly. We've either learned or we haven't. Time to see.

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                      @MajorRage

                      I don’t reckon we have the forward pack to get parity.
                      My guess fast paced game to tire out the big forwards and get around them on the edges.
                      That game plan depends on their skill set and who the ref is.it has failed recently,not a surprise anymore and can be shut down like the Irish have done to us.
                      I would hope to see something different.

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                      @Chris

                      weight and height stats for the forward are impressive. Well at least the 6 I checked. Haven't done hooker and no8 yet.

                      Edit. No8 is big too. Hookers a bit smaller but not short. Like 1.81 and around 105kg. Jack is easily the shortest of the tight 5 Both locks are around 1.97 and 1.98 and over 110kgs one prop (TH) is 1.94 and over 120 kgs. The other over 1.90 and lighter at 104kg

                      Backrow The 8 is taller 1.90 + and over 110. Lakai is 1.86 and around 110. The 6 is shorter at 1.82 edit che Clark at 6 might be 1.90 but only 93kg

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                        @Chris

                        weight and height stats for the forward are impressive. Well at least the 6 I checked. Haven't done hooker and no8 yet.

                        Edit. No8 is big too. Hookers a bit smaller but not short. Like 1.81 and around 105kg. Jack is easily the shortest of the tight 5 Both locks are around 1.97 and 1.98 and over 110kgs one prop (TH) is 1.94 and over 120 kgs. The other over 1.90 and lighter at 104kg

                        Backrow The 8 is taller 1.90 + and over 110. Lakai is 1.86 and around 110. The 6 is shorter at 1.82 edit che Clark at 6 might be 1.90 but only 93kg

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                        @Winger

                        How does that compare to the French pack ?
                        Australia looked well drilled up front, it will be very interesting the forward battle no problems with our backs imo.

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                          @Chris

                          weight and height stats for the forward are impressive. Well at least the 6 I checked. Haven't done hooker and no8 yet.

                          Edit. No8 is big too. Hookers a bit smaller but not short. Like 1.81 and around 105kg. Jack is easily the shortest of the tight 5 Both locks are around 1.97 and 1.98 and over 110kgs one prop (TH) is 1.94 and over 120 kgs. The other over 1.90 and lighter at 104kg

                          Backrow The 8 is taller 1.90 + and over 110. Lakai is 1.86 and around 110. The 6 is shorter at 1.82 edit che Clark at 6 might be 1.90 but only 93kg

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                          @Winger Are you listing the NZ stats? Che Clarke is 1.90 m+.

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                            @Winger Are you listing the NZ stats? Che Clarke is 1.90 m+.

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                            @Bovidae said in NZ U20 v France U20 (World Rugby U20 Championship):

                            @Winger Are you listing the NZ stats? Che Clarke is 1.90 m+.

                            Yes. He looked taller so checked another site. Said 1.90 and only 93kg. But likely put on weight since then. Is so it's a pack that has good height and weight

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                              @Winger

                              How does that compare to the French pack ?
                              Australia looked well drilled up front, it will be very interesting the forward battle no problems with our backs imo.

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                              @Chris good question. Could be hard to find out though. But NZ have some big lads in the pack.

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                                @Winger

                                How does that compare to the French pack ?
                                Australia looked well drilled up front, it will be very interesting the forward battle no problems with our backs imo.

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                                @Chris The French locks -

                                4 - Auradou - 2m, 102kg
                                5 - Tuilagi - 1.94m, 149kg
                                19 - Liufau - 1.96m, 126kg

                                and Tuilagi is only 18!

                                https://all.rugby/club/france-u20/squad

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                                  @Chris The French locks -

                                  4 - Auradou - 2m, 102kg
                                  5 - Tuilagi - 1.94m, 149kg
                                  19 - Liufau - 1.96m, 126kg

                                  and Tuilagi is only 18!

                                  https://all.rugby/club/france-u20/squad

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                                  @Daffy-Jaffy Tuilagi seems a bit heavy for a lock?

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                                    @Daffy-Jaffy Tuilagi seems a bit heavy for a lock?

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                                    @Stargazer might be hard to get up in the air!

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                                      @Stargazer might be hard to get up in the air!

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                                      @Tim I guess he will do more lifting than jumping -

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                                        @Tim I guess he will do more lifting than jumping -

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                                        @Daffy-Jaffy There's a person that doesn't want more "ball in play" time.

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                                          New Zealand U20 v France U20
                                          Thursday 29 June 2023
                                          Kick-off 11.30pm NZT
                                          Sky Sport 1

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                                          @Stargazer said in NZ U20 v France U20 (World Rugby U20 Championship):

                                          New Zealand U20 v France U20
                                          Thursday 29 June 2023
                                          Kick-off 11.30pm NZT
                                          Sky Sport 1

                                          On Stan for West Island Ferners. Coverage starts at the precise time of 9:19pm AEST.

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