Argentina v All Blacks
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@Nepia Here's some guy called Reece Labuschagne who will really annoy you...
Carried with bad intention, committing several Argentine defenders in a performance All Blacks great Jerome Kaino would've been proud of.
@Chris-B by my reckoning Frizell has had 2 half-decent games out of 25. If he continues to be selected, then hopefully his next one will be in the quarter final. Though based on his average to date, his next decent game will be in 12.5 tests, so more likely next year some time.
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The worst part about the Cane clip is the security guard chasing STILL doesn't get him even after the epic foot trip! Terrible stuff.
@No-Quarter said in Argentina v All Blacks:
The worst part about the Cane clip is the security guard chasing STILL doesn't get him even after the epic foot trip! Terrible stuff.
The problem with a lot of ground security across the world is that it’s private companies who don’t necessarily recruit for fitness, pace and sprinting ability.
Some years ago at the MCG they had Victorian police doing the ground security and they always had the fit cops who could chase. Now it’s private security.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Machpants said in Argentina v All Blacks:
But really Roigard please, give him a crack
Someone mentioned on here that Coles(?) had said he was taking time to settle in. Maybe that will influence his debut, but Christie has gone backwards IMHO and doesn't offer much.
Yeah, hopefully with another week in camp he'll start to settle in and be ready to take the bench spot, as on ability alone he's pretty clearly our 2nd best HB right now.
@No-Quarter said in Argentina v All Blacks:
Yeah, hopefully with another week in camp he'll start to settle in and be ready to take the bench spot, as on ability alone he's pretty clearly our 2nd best HB right now.
Huge potential and def. hope a bench spot next week over Christie. I do wonder if Foster & Co. made the wrong choice between Christie & Weber
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We need to give game time to potential gems Tamaiti Williams, Cameron Roigard and Samipeni Finau. Potent. Sir Foz has gained huge BPs but this needs to happen. At least 20 mins off the bench
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Finlay Christie is a dud.
Caleb Clarke on thin ice.
Plenty of better footballers knocking around.
With Stevenson or Jordan at 15 yesterday we’d have won by 15 more
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@No-Quarter said in Argentina v All Blacks:
What a friggen hiding, awesome start to the season. Stoked to see that backline go so well, DMac-Jordie-Rieko with Beauden organising things from the back is seriously threatening if the forwards get any sort of parity. They will only get better with more time together. The wailing and gnashing of teeth over Beauden's selection at 15 was OTT, as expected, he's still world class at the back and his experience will be crucial at the RWC.
Mo'unga should be able to slot into that formation as well, but he needs to be taking the ball at first receiver more than he has in the past the same way DMac does. Our 10 has to be directing play at test level, not always looking for mis-matches out wide that generally don't exist.
We definitely got some momentum on the EOYT, so great to see us continue to build on that. An in form DMac adds a lot to the team as well, whether at 10, 15 or the bench.
The weekends results set up an absolute cracker of a test against SA - bring it on!
Mmm.. would love to see Jordan at the back rather than BB. He would provide everything BB has at this stage but with the knack of getting the bounce of the ball that BB had 5 years ago. Clarke played OK but LF or Telea offer so much more.
And Williams for Lualala. Both Ofa and Wiliams play both sides. It would be interesting to see who plays where. Having said that, I'll understand the need for Lualala's scrumming against the Boks if he is selected.@Old-Samurai-Jack I suspect Jordan will get right wing, I really think BB is considered so good at communication from the back, they will be tempted to keep him there. At test level etc, the 15 is usually the one telling the backs what he sees ahead in behind opposition.
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@Steve struggling to see what BB offers. The try to Jordie yesterday looked so fucken good... because you just expected Beauds to stuff it up somehow.
He sold his soul to the devil for his early career tinbum and is now paying the price.
@Bones I'm pretty sure the key pass was Clark and he's getting no love for it
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Be interesting to see the team , I would guess they had a plan to start dmac in that game and Richie the next game and will probably stick with that plan, despite the temptation to see how dmac would go against the boks
Dunno, just a hunch
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@Bones I'm pretty sure the key pass was Clark and he's getting no love for it
@mariner4life doesn't fit the narrative around here.
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at the twits saying R. Mo is shit. Aaron Smith's passing was a fucking masterclass. He had DMac running hard and flat and that ball was right in front of him every. single. time. R.Mo basically came on with the ABs in full Fozz-ball. An absolute average second 40. -
at the twits saying R. Mo is shit. Aaron Smith's passing was a fucking masterclass. He had DMac running hard and flat and that ball was right in front of him every. single. time. R.Mo basically came on with the ABs in full Fozz-ball. An absolute average second 40.
@Joans-Town-Jones said in Argentina v All Blacks:
at the twits saying R. Mo is shit. Aaron Smith's passing was a fucking masterclass. He had DMac running hard and flat and that ball was right in front of him every. single. time. R.Mo basically came on with the ABs in full Fozz-ball. An absolute average second 40.Yeah very hard to compare the two because of the game situation, but I can't help but wonder whether the midfield playing as effectively as they did was down to McKenzie.
That's the biggest take away for me regarding the backs in this game. I loved the way RI was running off Jordie's shoulder. They would often both be in a position to hit it up and McKenzie could pick his target. And with RI being on Jordie's shoulder there was the option for Jordie to pop the pass. It draws in defenders and this is how McKenzie got the room for his break leading to BB's try.
While it looks basic it's not easy for midfielders to time their run in unison like that. They need to trust the 10 is going to run on to the ball and time the pass. Something that BB has not been that good at his entire career and something that RM has regressed in the last few seasons after being one of his strengths.
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Aaron Smith's passing was perfect. R.Mo got garbage. The backs went nowhere once Fozz-ball was in full swing.
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Aaron Smith's passing was perfect. R.Mo got garbage. The backs went nowhere once Fozz-ball was in full swing.
@Joans-Town-Jones think was more the disruption with all the subs, but in particular with Christie who really has regressed in the past year or so, particularly his passing and game management.
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@Bones I'm pretty sure the key pass was Clark and he's getting no love for it
@mariner4life said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Bones I'm pretty sure the key pass was Clark and he's getting no love for it
Clarke showed great hands there, very quick and on the money. BB still did really well though to beat his man and draw and pass perfectly. Love watching a bloke running at pace with the ball in 2 hands.
As an aside, I know we should expect someone at this level to make the last play 99 times out of 100, but it feels like lately it’s way more hit and miss for us
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@Chris-B by my reckoning Frizell has had 2 half-decent games out of 25. If he continues to be selected, then hopefully his next one will be in the quarter final. Though based on his average to date, his next decent game will be in 12.5 tests, so more likely next year some time.
@No-Quarter said in Argentina v All Blacks:
@Chris-B by my reckoning Frizell has had 2 half-decent games out of 25. If he continues to be selected, then hopefully his next one will be in the quarter final. Though based on his average to date, his next decent game will be in 12.5 tests, so more likely next year some time.
Two???
Crikey - you reckon he's played BOTH the half-decent games anyone has in the 6 jersey in the past 5 years.
Akira's fans will be out for your blood!
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at the twits saying R. Mo is shit. Aaron Smith's passing was a fucking masterclass. He had DMac running hard and flat and that ball was right in front of him every. single. time. R.Mo basically came on with the ABs in full Fozz-ball. An absolute average second 40.
@Joans-Town-Jones said in Argentina v All Blacks:
at the twits saying R. Mo is shit. Aaron Smith's passing was a fucking masterclass. He had DMac running hard and flat and that ball was right in front of him every. single. time. R.Mo basically came on with the ABs in full Fozz-ball. An absolute average second 40.we lost the second half. not good.
