Australia v All Blacks - Bled I
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@Dan54 The 2 playmaker thing has been pretty much shit for the ABs until last weekend. It's a nice idea with a heap of potential upside, but that is the first time it has actually worked with Mounga and Barrett together - so it is a bit weird to say conclusively that is how the ABs operate best.
Despite never actually playing at fullback, Mo'unga is the guy who plays most like a 2nd playmaker. He's always deep, frequently in the second line, often leaves the early plays and short passes to runners and decision-making to others. Beauden is a shoveller who largely looks for opportunities for himself or tries a cross-kick/chip/bomb and gives away too much possession. McKenzie is the guy who actually plays like an attacking 10, flat at the line and looking to put people into gaps.
I don't think they have the guts to bite the bullet, or the time to do it in their usual ultra conservative methodology, but our best side would have McKenzie at 10, and not Barrett at 15.@reprobate Yep, well we kind of have opinions. I agree RMo has always liked playing in second line, even for Crusaders he seems most comfortable with Havili taking the ball as first receiver. I think DMac can operate at 10 if needed, but would still go with RMo and BB .
I not into the anyone but BB at 15, but not part of anti BB (or anyone) brigade anyway. I thought we has a system they obviously trying to get to work, when it does, I not a fan of dropping it. If BB not at 15 I would have RMo and Dmac anyway to play same style. -
Interesting to hear BB on the rugby podcast that Schmidt has had a lot of influence on their structure and backplay this season. What was telling was BB said the entire team has buy in to what Schmidt is selling which may suggest in previous years they had doubts about Fozzies masterplan.
@chimoaus said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
Interesting to hear BB on the rugby podcast that Schmidt has had a lot of influence on their structure and backplay this season. What was telling was BB said the entire team has buy in to what Schmidt is selling which may suggest in previous years they had doubts about Fozzies masterplan.
He actually says they bought into Schmidt's way of doing, and that Fozzie has always been the one who is the masterplan man , and still does. Sounded like they struggled with Brad Moar, but never hinted at that anyway.
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@KiwiMurph said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
It's not uncommon for the head coach to be a man manager and the assistants to be the technical coaches.
Yes, I think it's more an indictment on the previous assistant coaches.
@antipodean said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
Yes, I think it's more an indictment on the previous assistant coaches.
Possibly. Recall the likes of RM and others (BBBR?) going out of their way to support Foster last year so good to hear them doing the same for Ryan and Schmidt. Teamwork, togetherness and all that.
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@antipodean said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
Yes, I think it's more an indictment on the previous assistant coaches.
Possibly. Recall the likes of RM and others (BBBR?) going out of their way to support Foster last year so good to hear them doing the same for Ryan and Schmidt. Teamwork, togetherness and all that.
@Victor-Meldrew said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@antipodean said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
Yes, I think it's more an indictment on the previous assistant coaches.
Possibly. Recall the likes of RM and others (BBBR?) going out of their way to support Foster last year so good to hear them doing the same for Ryan and Schmidt. Teamwork, togetherness and all that.
Hmmm....that support lead to Foster getting the given the don't come back. Are Ryan and Schmidt both gone too?
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@Kiwiwomble said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@KiwiMurph really? i cant imagine theyre going to fill Marvel for any game the rebels play....
I guess they are banking on an extra-large touring fanbase from Lions given no crowd in South Africa on the last Lions tour.
@KiwiMurph said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@Kiwiwomble said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@KiwiMurph really? i cant imagine theyre going to fill Marvel for any game the rebels play....
I guess they are banking on an extra-large touring fanbase from Lions given no crowd in South Africa on the last Lions tour.
Should’ve played at AAMI. 50K+ aren’t going out to watch the Rebels get smashed. But 25k diehards would
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Add Ofa, Colesey and Nepo and you have the Bulk of AB Bench. 6-2 anyone? https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300929876/all-blacks-quintet-released-for-npc-preseason-action-in-te-awamutu-on-saturday
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https://www.rugby.com.au/news/updated-wallabies-squad-bledisloe-cup-eddie-jones-2023719
Jones has made major changes with fullback Tom Wright the notable omission from the squad after two straight defeats to start the season. Wright has been left out of the squad along with Brumbies teammate Pete Samu and Rebel Reece Hodge. Josh Kemeny and Matt Gibbon along with Reds prop Zane Nonggorr have also made way, with Pone Fa'amausili and Blake Schoupp retaining their place in the squad after they were late inclusions for the Sydney Test. It comes as a host of players return from injury, headlined by Rebel Andrew Kellaway. Kellaway is joined by backrower Langi Gleeson and outside back Jordan Petaia for the Tests in Melbourne and Dunedin. Prop Taniela Tupou has also been confirmed to return after coming back via Australia A last week in Tonga. -
As much as people hate Eddie swapping and changing his squads, he's brutal when it comes to form.
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As much as people hate Eddie swapping and changing his squads, he's brutal when it comes to form.
@antipodean said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
As much as people hate Eddie swapping and changing his squads, he's brutal when it comes to form.
So Ala'alatoa has been dropped? Selective form then.
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@antipodean said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
As much as people hate Eddie swapping and changing his squads, he's brutal when it comes to form.
So Ala'alatoa has been dropped? Selective form then.
@Bovidae said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@antipodean said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
As much as people hate Eddie swapping and changing his squads, he's brutal when it comes to form.
So Ala'alatoa has been dropped? Selective form then.
The depth between backs and forwards isn't a 1:1 ratio
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@game_film said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
If Bell and Tupou are fit, the Wallabies are a very different team.
Bell is excellent in the loose but needs game time to work on his scrummaging.
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@game_film said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
If Bell and Tupou are fit, the Wallabies are a very different team.
I'm not sold on that argument. Tupou loses the ball easily in contact and is lazy in defence. And he's not Australia's best scrummager.
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Kellaway is a much better fullback than Wright. Not sure why the latter was picked in the first place. I think the Wallabies can put together a pretty good team. It’s a shame about Ikitau (their best back IMHO), but Petaia is not a bad replacement. I’d put Valetini in the ABs and I think Angus Bell is a better ball-in-hand prop than some of our established players. I rate Tate McDermott ahead of the ginger guy in the ABs. They have the makings of a very good team. And Eddie is a sharp mind. I definitely wouldn’t be writing them off.
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@NTA said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@Tim said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
I am writing them off.
Right here with ya bro
Negative Noo Noo
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@NTA said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@Tim said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
I am writing them off.
Right here with ya bro
Negative Noo Noo
@Machpants said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@NTA said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@Tim said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
I am writing them off.
Right here with ya bro
Negative Noo Noo
Realistic Rah Rah
