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Australia v All Blacks - Bled I

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    The first Bledisloe test of a RWC year have produced some interesting results:

    2019 - big loss in Perth
    2015 - loss in Sydney
    2011 - win at EP
    2007 - loss in Melbourne
    2003 - big win in Sydney
    1999 - win at EP
    1995 - win at EP
    1991 - loss in Sydney
    1987 - win in Sydney

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    • sparkyS Offline
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      This game has banana skin written all over it.

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      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

        The first Bledisloe test of a RWC year have produced some interesting results:

        2019 - big loss in Perth
        2015 - loss in Sydney
        2011 - win at EP
        2007 - loss in Melbourne
        2003 - big win in Sydney
        1999 - win at EP
        1995 - win at EP
        1991 - loss in Sydney
        1987 - win in Sydney

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        @ACT-Crusader said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

        The first Bledisloe test of a RWC year have produced some interesting results:

        2019 - big loss in Perth
        2015 - loss in Sydney
        2011 - win at EP
        2007 - loss in Melbourne
        2003 - big win in Sydney
        1999 - win at EP
        1995 - win at EP
        1991 - loss in Sydney
        1987 - win in Sydney

        91 and 95 both post RWC

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        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

          The first Bledisloe test of a RWC year have produced some interesting results:

          2019 - big loss in Perth
          2015 - loss in Sydney
          2011 - win at EP
          2007 - loss in Melbourne
          2003 - big win in Sydney
          1999 - win at EP
          1995 - win at EP
          1991 - loss in Sydney
          1987 - win in Sydney

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          @ACT-Crusader so the years we won the RWC, we have won 2 and lost 1...

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          • sparkyS sparky

            This game has banana skin written all over it.

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            #270

            @sparky said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

            This game has banana skin written all over it.

            Yep. That's why it could be a big and key test. Someone above opined that Foster and co. see the shortened RC as a test run for the knock-out stages of RWC2023 and I think they may be right.

            Win this one and we'll know the current upward path is a solid one

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              @ACT-Crusader so the years we won the RWC, we have won 2 and lost 1...

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              @taniwharugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

              @ACT-Crusader so the years we won the RWC, we have won 2 and lost 1...

              All we need now is for Ritchie, DMac and BB to get injured and David Havilli to be slotted in at 10 and we'll be home and dry....

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                The old saying “it’s the breakdown stupid”

                No secret if you mess up AB’s ball at breakdown you force them out of their preferred game plan. Expect the Wallabies to mimic the Boks and flood breakdown with big bodies etc.

                https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/how-breakdown-fury-can-boost-australias-odds-against-all-blacks/

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                  My Guess of Ian Foster's All Blacks to play the Wallabies:

                  1. de Groot
                  2. Taylor
                  3. Lomax
                  4. Retallick
                  5. Whitelock
                  6. Frizell
                  7. Cane (I think he is fit??)
                  8. Savea
                  9. Smith
                  10. Mo'unga
                  11. Telea
                  12. J Barrett
                  13. ALB
                  14. Jordan
                  15. B Barrett
                  16. Taukei'aho
                  17. Williams
                  18. Newell (I think he is back, seemed to be training? If not will be Lord Nepo)
                  19. S Barrett
                  20. Papalii
                  21. Roigard
                  22. McLeod (Rumour was his parents were Aussie bound)
                  23. R Ioane
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                    https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1684343027664551936

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                    • F frugby

                      My Guess of Ian Foster's All Blacks to play the Wallabies:

                      1. de Groot
                      2. Taylor
                      3. Lomax
                      4. Retallick
                      5. Whitelock
                      6. Frizell
                      7. Cane (I think he is fit??)
                      8. Savea
                      9. Smith
                      10. Mo'unga
                      11. Telea
                      12. J Barrett
                      13. ALB
                      14. Jordan
                      15. B Barrett
                      16. Taukei'aho
                      17. Williams
                      18. Newell (I think he is back, seemed to be training? If not will be Lord Nepo)
                      19. S Barrett
                      20. Papalii
                      21. Roigard
                      22. McLeod (Rumour was his parents were Aussie bound)
                      23. R Ioane
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                      @frugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                      McLeod (Rumour was his parents were Aussie bound)
                      R Ioane

                      Both McLeod and RIoane on the bench doesn't make sense to me.

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                        @frugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                        McLeod (Rumour was his parents were Aussie bound)
                        R Ioane

                        Both McLeod and RIoane on the bench doesn't make sense to me.

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                        @Stargazer said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                        @frugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                        McLeod (Rumour was his parents were Aussie bound)
                        R Ioane

                        Both McLeod and RIoane on the bench doesn't make sense to me.

                        @Stargazer said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                        @frugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                        McLeod (Rumour was his parents were Aussie bound)
                        R Ioane

                        Both McLeod and RIoane on the bench doesn't make sense to me.

                        Well the rumour is that McLeod's parents have flown over, and ALB has been doing media, so you'd expect both to be involved... can't see them leaving out Rieko, wouldn't be the worst idea to give him a trot on the wing, as there is a fair chance he is used as cover there at the Big WC Games in an injury crisis...

                        Back reserves will be:
                        21. Christe/Roigard
                        22. ALB
                        23. ?

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                          I'll also add, wouldn't be stunned to see a team that is why different to the one which trotted out by South Africa... a bit of an alternative lineup if they want to test people out:

                          1. Tu'ungafasi
                          2. Taukei'aho
                          3. Laulala
                          4. Retallick
                          5. Whitelock
                          6. Barrett
                          7. Savea
                          8. Jacobson
                          9. Roigard
                          10. Mo'unga
                          11. Clarke
                          12. ALB
                          13. Ioane
                          14. Telea
                          15. Jordan
                          16. Coles
                          17. de Groot
                          18. Lomax
                          19. Finau
                          20. Papalii
                          21. Smith
                          22. B Barrett
                          23. J Barrett
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                            https://wallabies.rugby/news/gordon-earns-first-start-in-wallaby-gold-for-bledisloe-one-at-mcg-2023726

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                            • F frugby

                              My Guess of Ian Foster's All Blacks to play the Wallabies:

                              1. de Groot
                              2. Taylor
                              3. Lomax
                              4. Retallick
                              5. Whitelock
                              6. Frizell
                              7. Cane (I think he is fit??)
                              8. Savea
                              9. Smith
                              10. Mo'unga
                              11. Telea
                              12. J Barrett
                              13. ALB
                              14. Jordan
                              15. B Barrett
                              16. Taukei'aho
                              17. Williams
                              18. Newell (I think he is back, seemed to be training? If not will be Lord Nepo)
                              19. S Barrett
                              20. Papalii
                              21. Roigard
                              22. McLeod (Rumour was his parents were Aussie bound)
                              23. R Ioane
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                              @frugby

                              Ioane Should be 13.

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                                Assuming a win here, I would expect changes for the Dunedin test. Some players need to be tried in other positions (e.g., BB at 1st 5), and others given an opportunity.

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                                  If McCleod is given a chance in this test, (even if at reserve), it might be a sign Havili is on the outer. Possible clear preference for a bigger 12 who can get over the gainline.

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                                    Assuming a win here, I would expect changes for the Dunedin test. Some players need to be tried in other positions (e.g., BB at 1st 5), and others given an opportunity.

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                                    #282

                                    @Bovidae keep BB away from 10 please.

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                                      Frank
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                                      Still prefer DMac to Richie at 10.

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                                        akan004
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                                        #284

                                        There's so much talent in that Wallaby team although am not sure if Tom Hooper is quick enough to be a 7. It's their lack of cohesion and picking a couple of players with very little match fitness that will count against them this weekend.

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          @Bovidae keep BB away from 10 please.

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                                          @KiwiMurph said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

                                          @Bovidae keep BB away from 10 please.

                                          I don't want him there either but if DMac isn't in the 23 then he (BB) is the only option if Mo'unga got injured early. I would prefer that Foster and co don't put themselves in that situation come the RWC, and see that now.

                                          Jones is going for size in his pack, but won't have the same impact at the breakdown.

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