All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II
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@Tordah said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
Still, thought McKenzie had a bit of a mare. Crap attacking kick option, needlessly kicked dead once, shit defense on McReight.
His insistence on playing out from deep looked to me like he was playing what he'd been told. An uncomfortable game plan combined with crap ball could throw anyone. I'd have been throwing the ball at the coach, it's pretty unfair.
@Bones said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
@Tordah said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
Still, thought McKenzie had a bit of a mare. Crap attacking kick option, needlessly kicked dead once, shit defense on McReight.
His insistence on playing out from deep looked to me like he was playing what he'd been told. An uncomfortable game plan combined with crap ball could throw anyone. I'd have been throwing the ball at the coach, it's pretty unfair.
Yes because that earlier game where he was playing flat he was a different player. I wonder if they were trying something out or they just don't think Christie can handle passing to a flat 10?
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I thought McKenzie was our worst player by a mile. His in-play kicking and decision making was the worst part of what we were doing.
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@Bones said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
@frugby said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
Its speed of clearance and decision making
The first period of play when Smith came on made it the most evident. Was just bang bang bang. Smith was at every breakdown before it even happened and just feeding players. Those 2-3 seconds are huge when you're trying to hit lines or runners
I will counter by saying, I'm not sure that is as much of a criticism of Christie as it is a praise of Smith. Nobody in the world offers the speed and consistency and service he does - not even Dupont. In that regard, he is the best.
Nah man, Christie was slow to get there and then compounded that by being slow to make a poor decision. Which leads to things like props throwing the ball to no one.
Find me a halfback with something even close to the speed of delivery of Smith. Weber is probably the nearest, but even then it is a noticeable drop.
Not to say Roigard and Fakatava aren't really good, but they aren't close to Smith when it comes to speed of delivery.
@frugby said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
@frugby said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
Its speed of clearance and decision making
The first period of play when Smith came on made it the most evident. Was just bang bang bang. Smith was at every breakdown before it even happened and just feeding players. Those 2-3 seconds are huge when you're trying to hit lines or runners
I will counter by saying, I'm not sure that is as much of a criticism of Christie as it is a praise of Smith. Nobody in the world offers the speed and consistency and service he does - not even Dupont. In that regard, he is the best.
Nah man, Christie was slow to get there and then compounded that by being slow to make a poor decision. Which leads to things like props throwing the ball to no one.
Find me a halfback with something even close to the speed of delivery of Smith. Weber is probably the nearest, but even then it is a noticeable drop.
Not to say Roigard and Fakatava aren't really good, but they aren't close to Smith when it comes to speed of delivery.
It's not about being Smith good, it's about being halfback good.
At least pick one of the 3 facets there to get right - arrival, distribution or decision making.
Not tackling.
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@frugby said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
I thought McKenzie was our worst player by a mile.
Nepo says hello. Too slow on D and back to his customary handling errors.
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Seems to me Lomax, De Groot are our top two, Newell and WIlliams (in that order) have potential, Laulala is back in the rear, not sure exactly where I'd put Ofa, doesn't really stand out anywhere but didn't make obvious errors to me either..
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Is Finau really challenging Shannon? I'd imagine Shannon shades him in the lineouts (as that is "apparently" a perceived strength) but Finau looks more physical. If Jacobson is the clear utility backup, that makes things even harder for Akira (also a 6/8).
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Is Finau really challenging Shannon? I'd imagine Shannon shades him in the lineouts (as that is "apparently" a perceived strength) but Finau looks more physical. If Jacobson is the clear utility backup, that makes things even harder for Akira (also a 6/8).
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
Is Finau really challenging Shannon? I'd imagine Shannon shades him in the lineouts (as that is "apparently" a perceived strength) but Finau looks more physical. If Jacobson is the clear utility backup, that makes things even harder for Akira (also a 6/8).
I don't think he is, but it was great to see we have someone who can easily step up at 6 without Frizzel. I saw in the pre match highlights Finau wearing 8 for the chiefs too...
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The worst half of Rugby from the all blacks I have ever seen just about. Dmac has been shit. What has happened to Samisoni Taukei'aho FFS. This is just embarrassing. I can hear Eddie now. Joke
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@SBW1 said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
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They give Finlay Christie a 6 and Aaron Smith a 6. -
@SBW1 said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
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I know I am a small petty man - but by gawd I like watching Eddie Jones rage a bit - that said the Wobblies are still a good sniff in RWC - that draw and that team - barring injuries - will be dangerous enough
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@SBW1 said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
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They give Finlay Christie a 6 and Aaron Smith a 6.@Frank said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
@SBW1 said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
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They give Finlay Christie a 6 and Aaron Smith a 6.Thanks, I certainly shan't read that one
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I know I am a small petty man - but by gawd I like watching Eddie Jones rage a bit - that said the Wobblies are still a good sniff in RWC - that draw and that team - barring injuries - will be dangerous enough
@Mattasaurus said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
I know I am a small petty man - but by gawd I like watching Eddie Jones rage a bit - that said the Wobblies are still a good sniff in RWC - that draw and that team - barring injuries - will be dangerous enough
He's been worse than Cheika used to be! Doesn't look happy eh.
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I know I am a small petty man - but by gawd I like watching Eddie Jones rage a bit - that said the Wobblies are still a good sniff in RWC - that draw and that team - barring injuries - will be dangerous enough
@Mattasaurus said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
I know I am a small petty man - but by gawd I like watching Eddie Jones rage a bit - that said the Wobblies are still a good sniff in RWC - that draw and that team - barring injuries - will be dangerous enough
Eddie vs Cheika during England vs Australia was top box stuff, shame this year didn't seem to have the same fireworks but at least Cheika got some revenge:
https://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/wallabies/eddie-jones-rivalry-with-michael-cheika-reignites-as-wallabies-hunt-sevenyear-first/news-story/93b44e561e1355d674824ff8da945d80 -
@Frank And what the heck does this even mean?
- Luke Jacobson: Just 10 minutes given to a player the selectors surely wanted to see more from. N/R
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Aus with the choke
Not mental, they ran out of air
Excellent comeback from NZ. The big time players stood up big time
Fitting way for Nugget to say goodbye
Feel for DMac. Shit being outside Ginge and made terrible choices under pressure
At this stage, Eddie will be the happier of the two coaches going into the RWC
Barring injuries and some seriously stupid play they should win the Pool and meet Argentina in the QF
By that stage, it's a case of last man standing but their passage to a SF and a massive over achievement based on current results and ranking looks more likely than NZ's
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@Donsteppa said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
No way should Finau or Christie be getting on the plane.
50% correct at full time
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@Machpants said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
@Steve said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
DMAC wasn't getting fast pill like this.
Way back at the start of the thread I side 'i wonder what DMac will look like with Christie handbrakes' we can see he looks shit
Would be interesting to see how RM looks with Christie at 9. Not great I'd wager. The difference in separation between the two lines with Smith on is remarkable
@canefan said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
Would be interesting to see how RM looks with Christie at 9. Not great I'd wager.
I recall BB looking shit with Christie starting at 9 against Scotland last year. But BB was also pretty shit that day.
