All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
Seems to me Lomax, De Groot are our top two, Newell and WIlliams (in that order) have potential, Laulala is back in the rear, not sure exactly where I'd put Ofa, doesn't really stand out anywhere but didn't make obvious errors to me either..
Thought Ofa was really good today.
Best I've seen him.
@booboo said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
Seems to me Lomax, De Groot are our top two, Newell and WIlliams (in that order) have potential, Laulala is back in the rear, not sure exactly where I'd put Ofa, doesn't really stand out anywhere but didn't make obvious errors to me either..
Thought Ofa was really good today.
Best I've seen him.
I missed some minutes in the second half (and was on 'wow Aaron is playing really well' watch) so good to hear. I don't remember any penalties, think they were Tamati's today.
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@Bones Are you just allergic to praising Mo'unga and criticising DMac?
It isn't that deep, DMac was crap lol, and as soon as Mo'unga came on we had tonnes more direction. Did Smith and an improved forward effort help? Sure, but Mo'unga also wasn't attempting silly cross-kicks across his own 22, running across the field and making aimless punts up the centre.
@frugby said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
@Bones Are you just allergic to praising Mo'unga and criticising DMac?
@Bones has a documented Mo'unga derangement syndrome, it's easy to filter out if you're aware of it. It's sad but it's not going to change and it's best just to acknowledge it and to get on with things.
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(Thought I'd posted but obviously fucked it up ...)
Re the come back:
I don't think it was down to Smith and Mo'unga.The come back was on before that.
Stevenson scored with Christie and DMac on the field.
I'm putting it down to our forwards sorting their shit out.
And I'll have to watch again, but didn't think DMac went that badly.
Kinda the same thoughts re Christie, but he's my No.4 No.9 ...
@booboo said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
(Thought I'd posted but obviously fucked it up ...)
Re the come back:
I don't think it was down to Smith and Mo'unga.The come back was on before that.
Stevenson scored with Christie and DMac on the field.
I'm putting it down to our forwards sorting their shit out.
And I'll have to watch again, but didn't think DMac went that badly.
Kinda the same thoughts re Christie, but he's my No.4 No.9 ...
When Mo'unga came on I said to Pakman Jr. that if we won I expected RM would get kudos, but that the AB pack had turned things around and that DMac would have looked fine playing behind that.
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@Steve said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
Samipeni with the hard shoulder in that carry.
Did I miss something about Finau's hard shoulder?
Keeps coming up
@booboo said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
@Steve said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
Samipeni with the hard shoulder in that carry.
Did I miss something about Finau's hard shoulder?
Keeps coming up
Jason Ryan referred to picking guys with a "hard shoulder"...tough in the tackle and in the carry.
Has turned into a bit of a running gag as the reason the likes of Finau and Tamaiti are in and Sotutu Stevenson and Akira are on the outer.
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@Steve said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
Every other Allblack winger has been mustard this year so far. Doesn't bode well
Is mustard good or bad?
@booboo said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
@Steve said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
Every other Allblack winger has been mustard this year so far. Doesn't bode well
Is mustard good or bad?
Tis very good.......in lock stock and two smoking barrels parlance.
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Now watched the 2nd half, and that turnaround has everything to do with a hugely improved forward effort, much faster service (and leadership) from 9, and a 10 who was just keeping the pattern going. Mo’unga did well by not trying to do too much, and nailed his core roles with accurate passing, excellent high ball work, and ice cold goal kicking.
I imagine that the defensive stats are pretty contrasting for the 1st versus 2nd half.
Honestly, I think Dmac can play that game and did that in the opening 8 minutes of the half where he was accurate and not trying to do too much. However he also had front fall ball and back to back penalties to help get the territory, he’s got to improve and help us get that territory.
Whitelock has to be MOTM, he was just outstanding.
Finau had a fantastic debut, I loved how he took on the ball carrying during the second half.
Big shout out to Coles who I thought was also really good.
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@frugby said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
@Bones Are you just allergic to praising Mo'unga and criticising DMac?
@Bones has a documented Mo'unga derangement syndrome, it's easy to filter out if you're aware of it. It's sad but it's not going to change and it's best just to acknowledge it and to get on with things.
@Canerbry said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
@frugby said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
@Bones Are you just allergic to praising Mo'unga and criticising DMac?
@Bones has a documented Mo'unga derangement syndrome, it's easy to filter out if you're aware of it. It's sad but it's not going to change and it's best just to acknowledge it and to get on with things.
Brilliant. I've been vocal since last year about how Beauden is cooked and Mounga is the way forward, then I criticise Christie and canerbry has to stop his fufu over Mounga mid stroke because apparently I've an issue with Mounga
where's that documentation?Are you saying it's deranged to think Mounga is our best ten?
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@NTA said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
Good start
Less good finish
Happier than I was last week
Should add I've only seen first 20 minutes + highlights.
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@NTA said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
Good start
Less good finish
Happier than I was last week
Should add I've only seen first 20 minutes + highlights.
@NTA said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
@NTA said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
Good start
Less good finish
Happier than I was last week
Should add I've only seen first 20 minutes + highlights.
Thanks for clarifying. Essential to have everything up front and out in the open.
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(Thought I'd posted but obviously fucked it up ...)
Re the come back:
I don't think it was down to Smith and Mo'unga.The come back was on before that.
Stevenson scored with Christie and DMac on the field.
I'm putting it down to our forwards sorting their shit out.
And I'll have to watch again, but didn't think DMac went that badly.
Kinda the same thoughts re Christie, but he's my No.4 No.9 ...
@booboo said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
(Thought I'd posted but obviously fucked it up ...)
Re the come back:
I don't think it was down to Smith and Mo'unga.
I'm putting it down to our forwards sorting their shit out.And I'll have to watch again, but didn't think DMac went that badly.
Watched the first half and have to agree. The forwards put themselves under a lot of pressure in the 1st 20 with mistakes - particularly Sami T & Laulala. D was good - kept the score down
Def. shift in the 2nd 20 mins and the error rate dropped significantly, though DMac's kicking was poor.
Kinda the same thoughts re Christie, but he's my No.4 No.9 ...
100%
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@NTA said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
Good start
Less good finish
Happier than I was last week
Should add I've only seen first 20 minutes + highlights.
@NTA said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
Should add I've only seen first 20 minutes + highlights.
Most of the best bits for an Aussie fan.
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@booboo said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
(Thought I'd posted but obviously fucked it up ...)
Re the come back:
I don't think it was down to Smith and Mo'unga.
I'm putting it down to our forwards sorting their shit out.And I'll have to watch again, but didn't think DMac went that badly.
Watched the first half and have to agree. The forwards put themselves under a lot of pressure in the 1st 20 with mistakes - particularly Sami T & Laulala. D was good - kept the score down
Def. shift in the 2nd 20 mins and the error rate dropped significantly, though DMac's kicking was poor.
Kinda the same thoughts re Christie, but he's my No.4 No.9 ...
100%
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
@booboo said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
(Thought I'd posted but obviously fucked it up ...)
Re the come back:
I don't think it was down to Smith and Mo'unga.
I'm putting it down to our forwards sorting their shit out.And I'll have to watch again, but didn't think DMac went that badly.
Watched the first half and have to agree. The forwards put themselves under a lot of pressure in the 1st 20 with mistakes - particularly Sami T & Laulala. D was good - kept the score down
Def. shift in the 2nd 20 mins and the error rate dropped significantly, though DMac's kicking was poor.
Kinda the same thoughts re Christie, but he's my No.4 No.9 ...
100%
AB lineout was pants for much of first half.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
@booboo said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
(Thought I'd posted but obviously fucked it up ...)
Re the come back:
I don't think it was down to Smith and Mo'unga.
I'm putting it down to our forwards sorting their shit out.And I'll have to watch again, but didn't think DMac went that badly.
Watched the first half and have to agree. The forwards put themselves under a lot of pressure in the 1st 20 with mistakes - particularly Sami T & Laulala. D was good - kept the score down
Def. shift in the 2nd 20 mins and the error rate dropped significantly, though DMac's kicking was poor.
Kinda the same thoughts re Christie, but he's my No.4 No.9 ...
100%
AB lineout was pants for much of first half.
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@Chris said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
Not looking that flash for Retallick and Ennor off for scans on knee injuries.
Fark.
Feel for Ennor, but we can replace him.
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@Chris said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
Not looking that flash for Retallick and Ennor off for scans on knee injuries.
Fark.
Feel for Ennor, but we can replace him.
Well he played on for about 5 minutes before being replaced. Hopefully that is a good sign.
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Did I imagine Ardie kicking like a 12 at one point of the game?
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@Chris said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
Not looking that flash for Retallick and Ennor off for scans on knee injuries.
Fark.
Feel for Ennor, but we can replace him.
@booboo said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
Not looking that flash for Retallick and Ennor off for scans on knee injuries.
Fark.
Feel for Ennor, but we can replace him.
Replace Ennor as a 13 backup? Not a great range to choose from but I assume big L's stock has risen..
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Did I imagine Ardie kicking like a 12 at one point of the game?
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:
Did I imagine Ardie kicking like a 12 at one point of the game?
Yes it was a well executed kick, but he should've passed
