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All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II

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    Interesting stuff here about the injury state of play. It doesn’t look good for Narawa.

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300939921/all-blacks-injury-to-wing-emoni-narawa-a-blow-ahead-of-world-cup-squad-naming

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    • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

      @game_film said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

      @Rancid-Schnitzel Not saying the guys wearing the jersey won’t care, of course they will. If they lose 32-21 Fozzy won’t be losing sleep over it. But let’s call it what it is - a money game. It’s a hope there’s no injuries and give everyone a run out game. It’s week 4 of NFL preseason. The guys on the field are trying, but the coaches and everyone else ain’t bothered.

      Week 4 of NFL preseason? No offence, but you clearly don't get it. You're a Bok supporter right?

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      @Rancid-Schnitzel Nope. Just a cynic. Do you think they will pick a 100% first choice team for the Boks game then?

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      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

        I liked the look of Jordan at 15.

        Running the ball yes, but when he came into first receiver as a playmaker (as has been the case for all our fullbacks for the past 10 years), he didn’t look as comfortable I thought. He’s great on the wider channels because he uses the space so well, but tighter in he looks to have some work ons.

        Even though he was the Crusaders fullback, they rarely use him in that type of role.

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        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

        I liked the look of Jordan at 15.

        Running the ball yes, but when he came into first receiver as a playmaker (as has been the case for all our fullbacks for the past 10 years), he didn’t look as comfortable I thought. He’s great on the wider channels because he uses the space so well, but tighter in he looks to have some work ons.

        Even though he was the Crusaders fullback, they rarely use him in that type of role.

        sounds a fair assessment and I haven't seen him much under the pump, but I like his kicking.

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          Given need for TWM to pick their last seven spaces, I'd see something like this:

          Ofa/Coles/Nepo/Vaa'i/Whitelock/Cane/Finau/Jacobson/Nuggie/DMac/ALB/Ennor/Leicester/Stevenson/BB
          Bench: Williams/Sami/Newell/Lord/Ardie/Roigard/McLeod/Jordan

          Agianst that, the players have been in camp, so may want to retain a few more of the top 26.

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            Given need for TWM to pick their last seven spaces, I'd see something like this:

            Ofa/Coles/Nepo/Vaa'i/Whitelock/Cane/Finau/Jacobson/Nuggie/DMac/ALB/Ennor/Leicester/Stevenson/BB
            Bench: Williams/Sami/Newell/Lord/Ardie/Roigard/McLeod/Jordan

            Agianst that, the players have been in camp, so may want to retain a few more of the top 26.

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              A loose forward trio of Finau, Cane and Jacobson makes sense since they are used to play together.

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              • sparkyS sparky

                @MajorPom I think the Irish are similar in quality to the Springboks. Either of them could win the tournament but a lot will need to go right for them.

                It’s the French, especially at home, I’m more worried about. So many quality players and so many different ways they can play. Dangerous with a capital D.

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                @sparky said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

                @MajorPom I think the Irish are similar in quality to the Springboks. Either of them could win the tournament but a lot will need to go right for them.

                It’s the French, especially at home, I’m more worried about. So many quality players and so many different ways they can play. Dangerous with a capital D.

                We can only meet France again in the final. If that happens we’ll have gone well even if we lose the final. My dream scenario would be a ¼ vs Scotland with FRA vs SA…and Ireland on the plane home.

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                  i know there is supposed to be no sentimentality in elite sport, but

                  If Smith doesn't play his last ever test in NZ that also happens to be at his home ground, then the ABs have no soul

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                  • C cgrant

                    A loose forward trio of Finau, Cane and Jacobson makes sense since they are used to play together.

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                    @cgrant said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

                    A loose forward trio of Finau, Cane and Jacobson makes sense since they are used to play together.

                    We'll have to wait and see if Cane is fit.

                    I still have a concern that they haven't used BB at 1st 5 yet, even after substitutions. I doubt many here are comfortable to have him running the cutter but that is their only option if DMac isn't in the 23.

                    To test the options now I would start DMac at 10 and BB at 15. Then, if all goes well, move BB into 10 and Jordan into 15 in the 2nd half. Beauden had his calf strapped after he was subbed in Melbourne so might be rested anyway.

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      @Jailbreak7 I actually think it is better if they start Roigard and then Aaron comes off the bench to finish the game, reckon that is better than him sitting on the bench for the final however many minutes of his swansong in Dunedin!

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                      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

                      @Jailbreak7 I actually think it is better if they start Roigard and then Aaron comes off the bench to finish the game, reckon that is better than him sitting on the bench for the final however many minutes of his swansong in Dunedin!

                      The counter is that if he starts, he gets to exit the field after 60mins to a standing ovation all to himself

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        i know there is supposed to be no sentimentality in elite sport, but

                        If Smith doesn't play his last ever test in NZ that also happens to be at his home ground, then the ABs have no soul

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                        @mariner4life said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

                        i know there is supposed to be no sentimentality in elite sport, but

                        If Smith doesn't play his last ever test in NZ that also happens to be at his home ground, then the ABs have no soul

                        you big softie, who knew

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                        • voodooV voodoo

                          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

                          @Jailbreak7 I actually think it is better if they start Roigard and then Aaron comes off the bench to finish the game, reckon that is better than him sitting on the bench for the final however many minutes of his swansong in Dunedin!

                          The counter is that if he starts, he gets to exit the field after 60mins to a standing ovation all to himself

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                          @voodoo although would he want that, kinda taking attention form the team? Plus, he'd get one when he came on.

                          He'll get an ovation no matter what...I think giving Cam a start is in best interests of ABS, and him finishing the game at his 'spiritual home' is better...

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                            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

                            @Jailbreak7 I actually think it is better if they start Roigard and then Aaron comes off the bench to finish the game, reckon that is better than him sitting on the bench for the final however many minutes of his swansong in Dunedin!

                            The counter is that if he starts, he gets to exit the field after 60mins to a standing ovation all to himself

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                            @voodoo said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

                            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

                            @Jailbreak7 I actually think it is better if they start Roigard and then Aaron comes off the bench to finish the game, reckon that is better than him sitting on the bench for the final however many minutes of his swansong in Dunedin!

                            The counter is that if he starts, he gets to exit the field after 60mins to a standing ovation all to himself

                            Historically that's what they've done and few would deserve it more.

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                            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                              @voodoo although would he want that, kinda taking attention form the team? Plus, he'd get one when he came on.

                              He'll get an ovation no matter what...I think giving Cam a start is in best interests of ABS, and him finishing the game at his 'spiritual home' is better...

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                              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

                              @voodoo although would he want that, kinda taking attention form the team? Plus, he'd get one when he came on.

                              He'll get an ovation no matter what...I think giving Cam a start is in best interests of ABS, and him finishing the game at his 'spiritual home' is better...

                              as long as he doesn't take a conversion, I'll be happy with whatever

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                                Meh, team first. Winning RWC will be sign off he deserves

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                                  There's no real need to play Christie in the game. Play Smith & Roigard again.

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                                    There's no real need to play Christie in the game. Play Smith & Roigard again.

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                                    @KiwiMurph 100%...getting a rock solid combo with those two starting/finishing games is what we want...christie is just the "cover"

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                                      I'm tipping A Smith to start and be captain. Give Cane the time he needs, no point rushing the neck. I'd go for Finau, Papalii and Jacobson.

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                                        Given need for TWM to pick their last seven spaces, I'd see something like this:

                                        Ofa/Coles/Nepo/Vaa'i/Whitelock/Cane/Finau/Jacobson/Nuggie/DMac/ALB/Ennor/Leicester/Stevenson/BB
                                        Bench: Williams/Sami/Newell/Lord/Ardie/Roigard/McLeod/Jordan

                                        Agianst that, the players have been in camp, so may want to retain a few more of the top 26.

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                                        @pakman said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

                                        Stevenson

                                        Am I missing something again? I've seen a couple of people suggest Stevenson. I thought he was long gone?

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          @pakman said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

                                          Stevenson

                                          Am I missing something again? I've seen a couple of people suggest Stevenson. I thought he was long gone?

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                                          @Bones said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

                                          @pakman said in All Blacks v Australia - Bledisloe II:

                                          Stevenson

                                          Am I missing something again? I've seen a couple of people suggest Stevenson. I thought he was long gone?

                                          He's returned to the squad due to Narawa's back injury. He was in Melb last week.

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