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RWC warmup - England v Wales

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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    The one thing that's been overlooked in this is how tactically astute and professional Farrell is

    He recognised that Basham was the only Welsh player able to carry the ball across the gain line and set England on their heels

    Farrell nullified Basham by any means necessary

    If Basham had stayed on the pitch Wales would have cantered home

    Once he left and didn't return because of HIA, Wales had no go forward despite the numerical advantage

    Begrudgingly, you can't coach that

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    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

      The one thing that's been overlooked in this is how tactically astute and professional Farrell is

      He recognised that Basham was the only Welsh player able to carry the ball across the gain line and set England on their heels

      Farrell nullified Basham by any means necessary

      If Basham had stayed on the pitch Wales would have cantered home

      Once he left and didn't return because of HIA, Wales had no go forward despite the numerical advantage

      Begrudgingly, you can't coach that

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      @MiketheSnow said in RWC warmup - England v Wales:

      The one thing that's been overlooked in this is how tactically astute and professional Farrell is

      He recognised that Basham was the only Welsh player able to carry the ball across the gain line and set England on their heels

      Farrell nullified Basham by any means necessary

      If Basham had stayed on the pitch Wales would have cantered home

      Once he left and didn't return because of HIA, Wales had no go forward despite the numerical advantage

      Begrudgingly, you can't coach that

      Not sure Owen is that cerebral

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      • boobooB booboo

        @MiketheSnow said in RWC warmup - England v Wales:

        The one thing that's been overlooked in this is how tactically astute and professional Farrell is

        He recognised that Basham was the only Welsh player able to carry the ball across the gain line and set England on their heels

        Farrell nullified Basham by any means necessary

        If Basham had stayed on the pitch Wales would have cantered home

        Once he left and didn't return because of HIA, Wales had no go forward despite the numerical advantage

        Begrudgingly, you can't coach that

        Not sure Owen is that cerebral

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        @booboo how else do you explain his ability to have hardly even appeared before the judiciary, let alone coming out squeaky clean when he does?

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        • BonesB Bones

          @booboo how else do you explain his ability to have hardly even appeared before the judiciary, let alone coming out squeaky clean when he does?

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          @Bones said in RWC warmup - England v Wales:

          @booboo how else do you explain his ability to have hardly even appeared before the judiciary, let alone coming out squeaky clean when he does?

          Fair.

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          • boobooB Offline
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            Nasty foul

            Edit: wrong thread...

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            • boobooB booboo

              Nasty foul

              Edit: wrong thread...

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              @booboo said in RWC warmup - England v Wales:

              Nasty foul

              That's quite the #booboo

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                Not a #booboo

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                • boobooB booboo

                  Not a #booboo

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                  @booboo the nasty foul occurred on Saturday

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                  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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                    Kinsella saying and Planet Rugby appearing to confirm World Rugby to appeal Farrell decision.

                    https://www.planetrugby.com/news/england-captain-owen-farrell-could-still-face-rugby-world-cup-ban-report

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                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                      Kinsella saying and Planet Rugby appearing to confirm World Rugby to appeal Farrell decision.

                      https://www.planetrugby.com/news/england-captain-owen-farrell-could-still-face-rugby-world-cup-ban-report

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                      @Victor-Meldrew absolute circus.

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                        Shambles upon shambles upon shambles.

                        World Rugby needs to accept responsibility and implement much more transparency around the accountability of referees and officials.

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          @Victor-Meldrew absolute circus.

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                          @taniwharugby

                          Perhaps it will jolt World Rugby to address the mess and inconsistences and improve things. I don't think I've seen such genuine anger from players, ex-players, referees and serious commentators as I've seen on this one.

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                            Just a reminder.

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                              https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/nigel-owens-owen-farrell-tackle-27536840

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                                https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/nigel-owens-owen-farrell-tackle-27536840

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                                @Tim

                                Nige has got it spot on.

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                                    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/nigel-owens-owen-farrell-tackle-27536840

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                                    @Tim

                                    Yup, Owens is spot on here.

                                    The whole business is a compete disgrace. Andy Farrell whinging about the effect on his family is bullshit IMO. Yes there has been an unedifying pile on and OF's taken a heap of crap from commentators. But it is 100% deserved, and 90% self-inflicted - first by his cynical & dangerous tackle, and then compounded by him and the RFU deciding to appeal, refusing to accept guilt, and paying a fucking KC to run rings around the panel. Anyone involved with that spineless disciplinary panel should be squirming right now, they got played, and hopefully it'll be put right on appeal.

                                    The mitigation they came up with was nonsense, and as Nigel points out, even if there was any mitigation it can't be applied under the framework if the tackle was illegal from the start anyway.

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                                    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                      @chimoaus said in RWC warmup - England v Wales:

                                      The team I feel sorry for is Scotland, they are likely to exit at the pool stage whereas one of these two will likely make a semi-final.

                                      It's cyclical

                                      They underperformed last time and got the seeding which was in place for ALL teams

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                                      @MiketheSnow nah. Yeah they underperformed, but the problem is the draw being 3 years out from the event. Scotland have improved so much in the last 2-3 years, it's pretty daft that's not reflected in the pools.

                                      Should make for some great pool matches though.

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                                        @MiketheSnow nah. Yeah they underperformed, but the problem is the draw being 3 years out from the event. Scotland have improved so much in the last 2-3 years, it's pretty daft that's not reflected in the pools.

                                        Should make for some great pool matches though.

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                                        @GibbonRib said in RWC warmup - England v Wales:

                                        @MiketheSnow nah. Yeah they underperformed, but the problem is the draw being 3 years out from the event. Scotland have improved so much in the last 2-3 years, it's pretty daft that's not reflected in the pools.

                                        Should make for some great pool matches though.

                                        Better for them to be knocked out at the pool stage by teams ranked higher than them than inferior opposition like Wales or Australia

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                                        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                          @GibbonRib said in RWC warmup - England v Wales:

                                          @MiketheSnow nah. Yeah they underperformed, but the problem is the draw being 3 years out from the event. Scotland have improved so much in the last 2-3 years, it's pretty daft that's not reflected in the pools.

                                          Should make for some great pool matches though.

                                          Better for them to be knocked out at the pool stage by teams ranked higher than them than inferior opposition like Wales or Australia

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                                          @MiketheSnow Better still if Ireland are knocked out at the pool stage. At least Scotland are occasionally capable of making a semifinal

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