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RWC warmup - Ireland v England

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  • MajorStokesM MajorStokes

    @sparky said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:

    Terrible technique by Vunipola and rightfully a Red Card.

    https://x.com/jaredwright17/status/1692957254977229291?s=46

    Deserves to sit out WC for that.

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    @MajorRage said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:

    @sparky said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:

    Terrible technique by Vunipola and rightfully a Red Card.

    https://x.com/jaredwright17/status/1692957254977229291?s=46

    Deserves to sit out WC for that.

    Nah, he couldn't control that significant change in direction from the ball carrier.
    :sarcmark:

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      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

        The Irish “dummy” runners…. Thought I was watching NFL preseason

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        @ACT-Crusader said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:

        The Irish “dummy” runners…. Thought I was watching NFL preseason

        A long running pet peeve of mine. They are initiating contact 5 yards ahead of the ball. And have been for years.

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        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

          I’d rather be Wales than England at this stage

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          @MiketheSnow said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:

          I’d rather be Wales than England at this stage

          That’s a fair call regardless of the Rugby

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          • M Machpants

            @Billy-Tell said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:

            One side of the draw is crying out for a pacific side to reach the semi finals.

            Hopefully NZ

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            @Machpants said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:

            @Billy-Tell said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:

            One side of the draw is crying out for a pacific side to reach the semi finals.

            Hopefully NZ.

            Hoping Japan can have another big WC scalp. And if Fiji ever want to play finals this could be their moment

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            • N Nevorian

              @Machpants said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:

              @Billy-Tell said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:

              One side of the draw is crying out for a pacific side to reach the semi finals.

              Hopefully NZ.

              Hoping Japan can have another big WC scalp. And if Fiji ever want to play finals this could be their moment

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              @Nevorian said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:

              @Machpants said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:

              @Billy-Tell said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:

              One side of the draw is crying out for a pacific side to reach the semi finals.

              Hopefully NZ.

              Hoping Japan can have another big WC scalp. And if Fiji ever want to play finals this could be their moment

              If by "Finals" you mean the knockout rounds, FYI:

              https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/6170/best-of-rwc-2007?_=1692507144812

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                An aspect of the England coaching that has been vexing me is the box kick defence we employ. If you can call it that. Most teams, Wales in particular do this well, once the kick is in the air there is a screen of players retreating to assist the catcher but their real job of course is to protect him from the kick chaser getting a decent hit on him. I dislike this defence as to me it is organised obstruction, but it is legal and effective. England do not seem to employ this defence, or if they do it is very disorganised to the extent it is useless. I’d have thought this would be an important thing to have in the armoury and pretty easy to fix.

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                • CatograndeC Catogrande

                  An aspect of the England coaching that has been vexing me is the box kick defence we employ. If you can call it that. Most teams, Wales in particular do this well, once the kick is in the air there is a screen of players retreating to assist the catcher but their real job of course is to protect him from the kick chaser getting a decent hit on him. I dislike this defence as to me it is organised obstruction, but it is legal and effective. England do not seem to employ this defence, or if they do it is very disorganised to the extent it is useless. I’d have thought this would be an important thing to have in the armoury and pretty easy to fix.

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                  @Catogrande

                  There seems zero confidence at the moment. The I-don't-want-to-be here body language from the off was telling as they looked to be beaten from the start.

                  Don't think it's all doom and gloom though. They performed better when down to 14 men and fighting to avoid a serious shellacking so there's real potential there.

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                    England have the cattle but those cattle don't perform at their best at Borthball

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                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                      @Catogrande

                      There seems zero confidence at the moment. The I-don't-want-to-be here body language from the off was telling as they looked to be beaten from the start.

                      Don't think it's all doom and gloom though. They performed better when down to 14 men and fighting to avoid a serious shellacking so there's real potential there.

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                      @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:

                      @Catogrande

                      There seems zero confidence at the moment. The I-don't-want-to-be here body language from the off was telling as they looked to be beaten from the start.

                      Don't think it's all doom and gloom though. They performed better when down to 14 men and fighting to avoid a serious shellacking so there's real potential there.

                      Re the second para, we’ve seen over the last 6 months or so, that England CAN play but it seems limited to the final 10 minutes when its is too late. It’s like they have Carte Blanche to rip up the playbook when we are already fucked, but if the players off the cuff approach is repetitively more effective than the game plan, then you have to look at the coaching.

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                      • CatograndeC Catogrande

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:

                        @Catogrande

                        There seems zero confidence at the moment. The I-don't-want-to-be here body language from the off was telling as they looked to be beaten from the start.

                        Don't think it's all doom and gloom though. They performed better when down to 14 men and fighting to avoid a serious shellacking so there's real potential there.

                        Re the second para, we’ve seen over the last 6 months or so, that England CAN play but it seems limited to the final 10 minutes when its is too late. It’s like they have Carte Blanche to rip up the playbook when we are already fucked, but if the players off the cuff approach is repetitively more effective than the game plan, then you have to look at the coaching.

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                        @Catogrande said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:

                        It’s like they have carte Blanche to rip up the playbook when we are already fucked, but if the players off the cuff approach is repetitively more effective than the game plan, then you have to look at the coaching.

                        Looks like the change from Comical Eddie to Borthwick has been a lot more problematical but what momentum there is looks to be backwards. It's not as if you can see them trying things and not coming off, there's just built-in lethargy.

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                        • Victor MeldrewV Away
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                          Feels dirty to agree with Woodwhinge, but he's spot-on here.

                          https://www.ruck.co.uk/childish-antics-sir-clive-woodward-lays-into-england-players-behaviour/?fbclid=IwAR2gBk81wdZc2O1lnXv7WA3mcPZNxyN3G_HC8swtTbcOUHGQ-Ja35NfOxjU

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                          • sparkyS sparky

                            Terrible technique by Vunipola and rightfully a Red Card.

                            https://x.com/jaredwright17/status/1692957254977229291?s=46

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                            @sparky said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:

                            Terrible technique by Vunipola and rightfully a Red Card.

                            https://x.com/jaredwright17/status/1692957254977229291?s=46

                            Reminded me of Nonu doing a spear tackle in Ireland after the BOD Lions saga. Tone deaf foul, super dumb on so many levels.

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                              https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1694260262050607250

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                              • StargazerS Stargazer

                                https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1694260262050607250

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                                @Stargazer said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:

                                https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1694260262050607250

                                Another fucking joke

                                6 - good record - sorry = 4

                                4 - Tackle school = 3

                                NOT 2 YOU FUCKING IMBECILES

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                                • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                  @Stargazer said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:

                                  https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1694260262050607250

                                  Another fucking joke

                                  6 - good record - sorry = 4

                                  4 - Tackle school = 3

                                  NOT 2 YOU FUCKING IMBECILES

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                                  @MiketheSnow said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:

                                  @Stargazer said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:

                                  https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1694260262050607250

                                  6 - good record - sorry - early guilty plea? = 3

                                  3 - Tackle school = 2

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    @MiketheSnow said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:

                                    @Stargazer said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:

                                    https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1694260262050607250

                                    6 - good record - sorry - early guilty plea? = 3

                                    3 - Tackle school = 2

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                                    @Stargazer said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:

                                    @MiketheSnow said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:

                                    @Stargazer said in RWC warmup - Ireland v England:

                                    https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1694260262050607250

                                    6 - good record - sorry - early guilty plea? = 3

                                    3 - Tackle school = 2

                                    That’s even fucking worse

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