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    So it's settled thank god for that! Everyone seems to of given a little.
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350405896/new-zealand-rugby-stakeholders-announce-end-governance-saga-warring-parties

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    • Dan54D Dan54

      So it's settled thank god for that! Everyone seems to of given a little.
      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350405896/new-zealand-rugby-stakeholders-announce-end-governance-saga-warring-parties

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      @Dan54 that's looking good!!

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        So it's settled thank god for that! Everyone seems to of given a little.
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350405896/new-zealand-rugby-stakeholders-announce-end-governance-saga-warring-parties

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        @Dan54 said in NZR review:

        So it's settled thank god for that! Everyone seems to of given a little.
        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350405896/new-zealand-rugby-stakeholders-announce-end-governance-saga-warring-parties

        Good to see the stakeholder board has expanded and Union qualification specified. That will stop the provinces being able to push things through in their own interests

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          @Dan54 said in NZR review:

          So it's settled thank god for that! Everyone seems to of given a little.
          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350405896/new-zealand-rugby-stakeholders-announce-end-governance-saga-warring-parties

          Good to see the stakeholder board has expanded and Union qualification specified. That will stop the provinces being able to push things through in their own interests

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          @Machpants yep think it balances out. I always want provinces to have an input, as they are who run rugby in their aeras, but like it to be balanced with need to remember it is a professional game.

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            Having that settled is good, but only if the new board and management can make hard decisions.

            As the discussion in the crowd thread shows, the way forward looks reasonably clear (our NPC-centric and non-NPC centric posters seem to align on the 8-10 team in converged Super/NPC competition idea).

            I'm interested to see whether NZRU can get there. I won't hold my breath.

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              Having that settled is good, but only if the new board and management can make hard decisions.

              As the discussion in the crowd thread shows, the way forward looks reasonably clear (our NPC-centric and non-NPC centric posters seem to align on the 8-10 team in converged Super/NPC competition idea).

              I'm interested to see whether NZRU can get there. I won't hold my breath.

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              @gt12 said in NZR review:

              Having that settled is good, but only if the new board and management can make hard decisions.

              As the discussion in the crowd thread shows, the way forward looks reasonably clear (our NPC-centric and non-NPC centric posters seem to align on the 8-10 team in converged Super/NPC competition idea).

              I'm interested to see whether NZRU can get there. I won't hold my breath.

              Realistically we will see no great changes to anything for a year or 2, I would imagine , or even want. It's only the board that runs things, and regardless of what we think/say in general there only needs to be tweeks to how the game is run at board level. Most fof it will be perhaps more commercial, and that all takes time stc.

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                Graham Mourie has been appointed as the independent chair of the new 9-member stakeholder panel.

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                  https://www.nzrugby.co.nz/news-and-events/latest-news/nzr-chair-dame-patsy-reddy-confirms-decision-not-to-reapply-for-the-nzr-board

                  Dame Patsy and Dame Farah Palmer, who is due to rotate off the NZR Board, will work in conjunction with the Stakeholder Panel to establish the six-person Appointments and Remunerations Panel (ARP). They will be joined by current NZR President Matthew Cooper, whose role sits separate from the Board.

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                    Stuck to her guns

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                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360513294/nz-rugby-board-members-ajit-balasingham-and-wayne-young-snubbed-interview-process

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                        Let's see how good the new people are, if the incumbents aren't rated in the top 25 % of applicants, it could simply be a reflection on the lack of quality on the current board.

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                          Alternatively, this could be good politics, if these come with baggage from the previous board, it's probably better for them to not be there and for the board to start with a clean slate.

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                            100+ applicants into 9 does rather leave some winnowing required.

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                              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/new-zealand-rugbys-next-sky-broadcast-deal-will-see-them-suffer-big-loss-gregor-paul/5P4T44AAPFHKRJCFLGO6OMCAQY/

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                                For those without access
                                https://archive.ph/nxZ9N

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                                  For those without access
                                  https://archive.ph/nxZ9N

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                                  @Machpants Nations Championship to save the day?

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                                    Nah, I think we (like other nations) have been sold a dummy with private equity. I thought it was the correct idea based on the sales pitch but there is no more money to be had. We'll be lucky to break even with the silver lake deal, same the abs recent performances (along with the all blacks 7s 🤮) isn't helping

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                                      Nah, I think we (like other nations) have been sold a dummy with private equity. I thought it was the correct idea based on the sales pitch but there is no more money to be had. We'll be lucky to break even with the silver lake deal, same the abs recent performances (along with the all blacks 7s 🤮) isn't helping

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                                      @Machpants said in NZR review:

                                      Nah, I think we (like other nations) have been sold a dummy with private equity. I thought it was the correct idea based on the sales pitch but there is no more money to be had. We'll be lucky to break even with the silver lake deal, same the abs recent performances (along with the all blacks 7s 🤮) isn't helping

                                      The deal broke the first rule of finance. Don't sell equity

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                                        Not obvious what Silverlake actual brought to the table. Supposedly they were going to improve NZR's communication and technology and drive up revenue, but neither happened.

                                        It was a bad deal.

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                                          Not obvious what Silverlake actual brought to the table. Supposedly they were going to improve NZR's communication and technology and drive up revenue, but neither happened.

                                          It was a bad deal.

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                                          @sparky said in NZR review:

                                          Not obvious what Silverlake actual brought to the table. Supposedly they were going to improve NZR's communication and technology and drive up revenue, but neither happened.

                                          It was a bad deal.

                                          I still don't understand how they planned to drive up revenue when they aren't a sports management company, or a broadcast company

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