RWC Week 1: France v All Blacks
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@Duluth said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
From the current squad what would you have picked?
personally...i would have some faith in myself and who i had picked and give whomever i had picked in the SA game another shot....i truly believe all this one game in one game out shit has to have an effect on players...meaning the next time they get a shot they'll be in their own heads
I dont mean players become undroppable...but there is a middle ground between playing one game ever so often and being kept on after 3 bad games in a row
also doesnt mean i wouldn't have picked a different squad, but when weve got a squad we need to rev them up...not make them doubt themselves
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Oh hell no
But everyone was having a bad day, nice to bring on someone to turn the game around a bit. Just don't think Christie does that. He is not going to add a spark that might make a difference.
I'm just not liking the makeup of this team, and the squad in general just seems to be selected badly.@Darren said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Oh hell no
But everyone was having a bad day, nice to bring on someone to turn the game around a bit. Just don't think Christie does that. He is not going to add a spark that might make a difference.
I'm just not liking the makeup of this team, and the squad in general just seems to be selected badly.Let's face it if AB pack doesn't go well , and if Roigard did play and not look good, posters being what they are would of been moaning about him not being up to it anyway.
I think I been reading forums too long!:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes: -
What the hell is with the ire towards Dalton's selection? He is absolutely world class and a real leader in the pack. One quiet game against Ireland doesn't change all of that. I am very pleased to see him starting this test, and hoping he brings his A game as he is so influential when on form.
@No-Quarter said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Dalton's selection? He is absolutely world class
I am not sure he has put in enough World class performances at Test Level to call him World class.
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@Darren said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Oh hell no
But everyone was having a bad day, nice to bring on someone to turn the game around a bit. Just don't think Christie does that. He is not going to add a spark that might make a difference.
I'm just not liking the makeup of this team, and the squad in general just seems to be selected badly.That was a great little confidence boost for Roigard, by far the best thing to come of that warm up match. But the game was gone, and it was a warm up match, so there was no pressure on him at all. Against the French at home in a WC opener? Yeah that's a different kettle of fish and I can see why they wouldn't want to expose him to that this early in his career. Some pool games for him to make his case and get more comfortable in the black jumper, and he's every chance of making the bench in the quarter.
@No-Quarter said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@Darren said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Oh hell no
But everyone was having a bad day, nice to bring on someone to turn the game around a bit. Just don't think Christie does that. He is not going to add a spark that might make a difference.
I'm just not liking the makeup of this team, and the squad in general just seems to be selected badly.That was a great little confidence boost for Roigard, by far the best thing to come of that warm up match. But the game was gone, and it was a warm up match, so there was no pressure on him at all. Against the French at home in a WC opener? Yeah that's a different kettle of fish and I can see why they wouldn't want to expose him to that this early in his career. Some pool games for him to make his case and get more comfortable in the black jumper, and he's every chance of making the bench in the quarter.
Why then is he in the RWC squad?
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@Joans-Town-Jones said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@frugby we're down by 5, 20 mins to go, have the ascendency, scored 22 unanswered points, you don't think Fozzy is hooking Nugget?
If we have scored 22 unanswered points and are on absolute fire? Absolutely not haha.
@frugby said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@Joans-Town-Jones said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@frugby we're down by 5, 20 mins to go, have the ascendency, scored 22 unanswered points, you don't think Fozzy is hooking Nugget?
If we have scored 22 unanswered points and are on absolute fire? Absolutely not haha.
Foster, the ABs coach? He'd drop God.
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Hopefully ALB goes well.
If he can have a solid game it settles a few questions about the bench for later in the tournament. With him covering 12/13 and two 10's in the starting lineup it gives us options for that last bench spot
@Duluth said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Hopefully ALB goes well.
If he can have even a solid game it settles a few questions about the bench for later in the tournament. With him covering 12/13 and two 10's in the starting lineup it gives us options for that last bench spot
would love for him to have a solid game, just tackle blokes and try and put RI in some space...
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@Duluth said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
From the current squad what would you have picked?
personally...i would have some faith in myself and who i had picked and give whomever i had picked in the SA game another shot....i truly believe all this one game in one game out shit has to have an effect on players...meaning the next time they get a shot they'll be in their own heads
I dont mean players become undroppable...but there is a middle ground between playing one game ever so often and being kept on after 3 bad games in a row
also doesnt mean i wouldn't have picked a different squad, but when weve got a squad we need to rev them up...not make them doubt themselves
@Kiwiwomble said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@Duluth said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
From the current squad what would you have picked?
personally...i would have some faith in myself and who i had picked and give whomever i had picked in the SA game another shot....i truly believe all this one game in one game out shit has to have an effect on players...meaning the next time they get a shot they'll be in their own heads
I dont mean players become undroppable...but there is a middle ground between playing one game ever so often and being kept on after 3 bad games in a row
also doesnt mean i wouldn't have picked a different squad, but when weve got a squad we need to rev them up...not make them doubt themselves
This was the main issue with the EOYT. Foster finally found some talent in JB at 12. Many of us had been calling for it for a while. But no, he went and phucked around with the team much to the applause of @Victor-Meldrew who was advocating for playing backups to JB in the next 9 tests.
Come this year, Foster could have really nailed the team down but again phucked around with it despite 2 weeks between the last 3 tests.
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@No-Quarter said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@Darren said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Oh hell no
But everyone was having a bad day, nice to bring on someone to turn the game around a bit. Just don't think Christie does that. He is not going to add a spark that might make a difference.
I'm just not liking the makeup of this team, and the squad in general just seems to be selected badly.That was a great little confidence boost for Roigard, by far the best thing to come of that warm up match. But the game was gone, and it was a warm up match, so there was no pressure on him at all. Against the French at home in a WC opener? Yeah that's a different kettle of fish and I can see why they wouldn't want to expose him to that this early in his career. Some pool games for him to make his case and get more comfortable in the black jumper, and he's every chance of making the bench in the quarter.
Why then is he in the RWC squad?
@Joans-Town-Jones said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@No-Quarter said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@Darren said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Oh hell no
But everyone was having a bad day, nice to bring on someone to turn the game around a bit. Just don't think Christie does that. He is not going to add a spark that might make a difference.
I'm just not liking the makeup of this team, and the squad in general just seems to be selected badly.That was a great little confidence boost for Roigard, by far the best thing to come of that warm up match. But the game was gone, and it was a warm up match, so there was no pressure on him at all. Against the French at home in a WC opener? Yeah that's a different kettle of fish and I can see why they wouldn't want to expose him to that this early in his career. Some pool games for him to make his case and get more comfortable in the black jumper, and he's every chance of making the bench in the quarter.
Why then is he in the RWC squad?
We have a pretty significant lack of depth at halfback right now
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No I refuse to let you introduce strawman arguments. You did it in the NPC thread too. Lift your game it makes you look dumb
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To be optimistic, let's go back to the 2015 RWC.
The pecking order of the halfbacks at the start was (1) Smith, (2) TJP, (3) TKB. By the time the playoffs started TKB had overtaken TJP to be Smith's backup. There is time for Roigard to prove his worth before the game that really matters.
@Bovidae said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
To be optimistic, let's go back to the 2015 RWC.
The pecking order of the halfbacks at the start was (1) Smith, (2) TJP, (3) TKB. By the time the playoffs started TKB had overtaken TJP to be Smith's backup. There is time for Roigard to prove his worth before the game that really matters.
Team sheets from 2011 indicate Cowan was preferred starter earlier in the year and St the start of the tournament. Ended up 3rd 9.
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Winning this games doesn't necessarily give us the easier QF anyway, just creates momentum and confidence.
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@Darren said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Winning this games doesn't necessarily give us the easier QF anyway, just creates momentum and confidence.
Which is "easier" ...
@booboo said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@Darren said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Winning this games doesn't necessarily give us the easier QF anyway, just creates momentum and confidence.
Which is "easier" ...
Scotland, if the manage to tip over either SA or Ireland, which had happened before
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@booboo said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@Darren said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Winning this games doesn't necessarily give us the easier QF anyway, just creates momentum and confidence.
Which is "easier" ...
Scotland, if the manage to tip over either SA or Ireland, which had happened before
@Machpants said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@booboo said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@Darren said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Winning this games doesn't necessarily give us the easier QF anyway, just creates momentum and confidence.
Which is "easier" ...
Scotland, if the manage to tip over either SA or Ireland, which had happened before
Just cos they haven’t won before doesn’t mean they won’t
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I'm intrigued that people think the non-selection of Roigard is far more important and a bigger talking point than the selection of Papalii on the blindside.
Also, if anyone lives overseas and can go to the bookmaker, would love to know the odds on Nepo over 2.5 knock-ons. In that heat, he won't catch a thing!
@frugby Fully agree with you there mate. I'm really nervous about Papali'i at 6 and have never liked him there. He's a 7 or don't play at all for me and always has been. Would feel more comfortable with Finau there and the non selection of Jacobsen at 6 suggests to me that they regret picking him as he is the utility loose forward in the squad.
Papali'i lacks a bit of sting both on attack and defence to be an international 6 for me.
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@Joans-Town-Jones said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@No-Quarter said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@Darren said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Oh hell no
But everyone was having a bad day, nice to bring on someone to turn the game around a bit. Just don't think Christie does that. He is not going to add a spark that might make a difference.
I'm just not liking the makeup of this team, and the squad in general just seems to be selected badly.That was a great little confidence boost for Roigard, by far the best thing to come of that warm up match. But the game was gone, and it was a warm up match, so there was no pressure on him at all. Against the French at home in a WC opener? Yeah that's a different kettle of fish and I can see why they wouldn't want to expose him to that this early in his career. Some pool games for him to make his case and get more comfortable in the black jumper, and he's every chance of making the bench in the quarter.
Why then is he in the RWC squad?
We have a pretty significant lack of depth at halfback right now
@No-Quarter you don't want him exposed but we have lack of depth.?
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@Canes4life said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
I wouldn't pick one French player in a combined Rainbow Warrior XV....
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@akan004 I cannot come up with new ways of describing the incompetence. A player who was completely expendable for this campaign.
@Tim said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@akan004 I cannot come up with new ways of describing the incompetence. A player who was completely expendable for this campaign.
Please replace Narawa with another wing. Please Fozzie, you know you want to
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@frugby Fully agree with you there mate. I'm really nervous about Papali'i at 6 and have never liked him there. He's a 7 or don't play at all for me and always has been. Would feel more comfortable with Finau there and the non selection of Jacobsen at 6 suggests to me that they regret picking him as he is the utility loose forward in the squad.
Papali'i lacks a bit of sting both on attack and defence to be an international 6 for me.
@African-Monkey said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@frugby Fully agree with you there mate. I'm really nervous about Papali'i at 6 and have never liked him there. He's a 7 or don't play at all for me and always has been. Would feel more comfortable with Finau there and the non selection of Jacobsen at 6 suggests to me that they regret picking him as he is the utility loose forward in the squad.
Papali'i lacks a bit of sting both on attack and defence to be an international 6 for me.
That last test he started at 6 he seemed a little all over the show and almost nervous. He gave an interview, can't remember if it was pre or post game and it was telling that ihe wasn't overly comfortable about it. But Paps is a real student of the game and would've learned a few things and the coaches will hopefully have a better idea how to use him there.
if we play an uptempo, speed, don't die with the ball game, we certainly have the loose trio to do that!
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@African-Monkey said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@frugby Fully agree with you there mate. I'm really nervous about Papali'i at 6 and have never liked him there. He's a 7 or don't play at all for me and always has been. Would feel more comfortable with Finau there and the non selection of Jacobsen at 6 suggests to me that they regret picking him as he is the utility loose forward in the squad.
Papali'i lacks a bit of sting both on attack and defence to be an international 6 for me.
That last test he started at 6 he seemed a little all over the show and almost nervous. He gave an interview, can't remember if it was pre or post game and it was telling that ihe wasn't overly comfortable about it. But Paps is a real student of the game and would've learned a few things and the coaches will hopefully have a better idea how to use him there.
if we play an uptempo, speed, don't die with the ball game, we certainly have the loose trio to do that!
@ACT-Crusader I certainly hope so, and I really hope he goes out there and kills it. I love what he does for the Blues, hope he delivers and makes me look like an idiot on Saturday.
